Then you need to wake up, first 35 he was everywhere. I thought he had a twin playing for West Ham.
Declan Rice
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Then you need to wake up, first 35 he was everywhere. I thought he had a twin playing for West Ham.
3 things in life are guaranteed.
Death, taxes, Declan Rice fanboys coming out of the woodwork when he does something above average
Death, taxes, Declan Rice fanboys coming out of the woodwork when he does something above average
And he isn’t exceptional, so I was correct.What? go look it up. A quick google search will tell you it means "mediocre, unexceptional, not exciting or special"
Wow you really are clueless
What I had to eat last night was good but not exceptional, I wouldn’t write home about that either.
We were in fully control and they barely had a foot in the game.
I don't see what everyone sees in him.
I think he is great but most definitely not 100m £ great.
In any case we have Casemiro. He is not for us. That's great news.
In any case we have Casemiro. He is not for us. That's great news.
He was absolutely everywhere ... except where he actually needed to be.
I hate the way he runs.
My friend, you're the one championing Rice as a 'dominator' of midfields, when it's painfully clear to see that teams don't even bother to press him because that's the level of threat they consider him to be. If you want to keep banging that drum then we will respectfully agree to disagree, but if Rice was anywhere near as good as you say he is, an elite team would have spent whatever money they needed to last summer to land someone who 'dominates' midfields.
The reality is Rice is just another DM that's comfortable on the ball and can intercept a pass, there are literally hundred's of players like him on the continent.
He was shite 
It's not everyone, it's a select few who think he's brilliant, I think the rest of us don't see anything exceptional.
We literally brought McTominay on to mark him less than 24 hours ago
We brought McTomminay on for his height and extra legs in the midfield. We switched to 4-3-3 because Antonio came on and they changed shape.
Which doesn’t explain why McTominay immediately went forward to a position that he doesn’t usually play and was next to Rice whenever we lost the ball. Like he was marking him. Because he was.
OooOOooooOooooOooo McTominay
. If he was any trouble for him we should definitely avoid.No-one does, hence why he's still at West Ham. When the crazy fees were being talked about, I knew he had no way out of West Ham unless he ran his contract down, which is what is happening.
He is exceptional and definitely exciting to watch and isn't mediocre at all. What the feck has Felix done the past 2 years for him to be "something to write home about?"
Anyways I am not going to derail the thread. Adios
He'll end up at Chelsea thankfully
Instead of chasing after someone like frenkie, we should be all over this guy. He single handedly dominated Bruno,eriksen, casemiro, Fred and mct. He has a good motor as well and a leader. We don’t need the guy who accepts being on the bench for the likes of gavi/ washed up busquets.
Jesus wept...
Thank feck he wasn't another expensive Ole special.
He's good, I thought he very much held his own against Casemiro and Eriksen at Old Trafford. He wasn't dominating or anything, in fact we had the better of things at the start but in the first half he helped them defend. Towards the end of the game as we lost the plot he probably had a grip on things so he grew in the game and showed what a physical force he is.
Ultimately he's a great defender and a powerful runner, it feels as if the people that deny he's a very good player are waiting for him to curl one off the outside of his boot 40 yards out to the wing or something. He's never going to be that player with an expansive passing range, and he's never worth what West Ham want but if you do buy him you get an excellent player, no doubt about it. He would massively improve Chelsea for instance.
Ultimately he's a great defender and a powerful runner, it feels as if the people that deny he's a very good player are waiting for him to curl one off the outside of his boot 40 yards out to the wing or something. He's never going to be that player with an expansive passing range, and he's never worth what West Ham want but if you do buy him you get an excellent player, no doubt about it. He would massively improve Chelsea for instance.
ETH wants FDJ because he fits into the system he expects us to adapt into and play. Even if Pele was available, if he doesn't fit the system, he doesn't serve a purpose. Declan Rice was really good yesterday and he's a fantastic player. Just not what we want. He'd be better off at Chelsea or Liverpool. If we get him, instead of McFred burger, we'll have Fred Fried Rice that looks and tastes the same.
His talent is never the issue however price is.
His weakness would be exposed at a big club. Tottenham's level at best.
Rice's agent is getting desperate, it appears.
Are you serious? West Ham (and Rice) had about 7-8 minutes of the game in the first half, and a late onslaught of direct football for the last 20 minutes in the second after Antonio arrived on the pitch. He didn't dominate anything.
It's simple, fans who sat in Carrick are the same fans who don't rate Rice. Some just cannot understand that doing the simple thing is the hardest part of football sometimes. Carrick got literally abused on Twitter etc for being boring and playing sideways. Some fans just want two Pogba's just like on FM, yet it never works in real life
He did absolutely nothing of the sort
He’s nothing like Carrick. Carrick didn’t keep it simple, he made difficult aspects of midfield seem simple.
Yes agreed. Good point.
They didn't dominate the game
Best moment of the match was when the commentator said he has magic in his feet. Oh how I laughed.
Fergie said in several interviews that Carrick keeps it simple so the game flows. Thats what i mean. Of course it isnt simple do to, its the hardest part of football, but its still not appreciated enough.
Carrick was a far superior player to Rice in pretty much every aspect, except maybe mobility. His passing range alone sets him apart, and his football intelligence was only second to Scholes in our squad. I agree that he wasn’t rated properly maybe up until 2011 by large parts of our fan base, but you’re doing him a disservice comparing him to Rice, who, to be fair, still has a lot of time to develop his own game. I doubt he will ever have Carrick’s passing range, vision and football intelligence though. I would kill to have a mid-20s Michael Carrick joining us now, it would make us unstoppable.
Not similar players at in my opinion. Rice likes to run with the ball, press and make tackles. Carrick would sit in pockets and pass through lines all night long without breaking a stride. A player like Carrick is a rarity, whereas there are far cheaper alternatives to what Rice offers.
Casemiro seems to have both their abilities combined.
Such an odd thing to say.
Technically, Keane was also just a better version of McTominay. A much, much better version of McTominay. And Cristiano (peak) is just a better* version of Depay.
* much, much, much...
Such a polarising last few pages
As usual I think the reality is somewhere in the middle. He's a good player.
As usual I think the reality is somewhere in the middle. He's a good player.
I loved and wanted Carrick, and I think Rice is fairly wank. So, theory dispelled.
Such a polarising last few pages
As usual I think the reality is somewhere in the middle. He's a good player.
Sometimes, it’s just that simple.
He’ll do well in a team that needs a physical player to break up attacks and clog up passing lanes.
He’ll struggle in a team that needs a playmaker.