Decades Chain Draft

If no one wants to take it over, below is the end product just so I don't feel all this was a waste of time.

Massive team. Are you out for the whole draft or could you get back for the QFs, if your side wins R1?
 
Sent my write-up to an old convo with EAP. Nothing else worked.

@General_Elegancia when would you like to play? I don't plan on saying much and my writeup is like a handful of lines so there wouldn't be much discussion - I'm a bit busy these days with both work and family stuff.

Right now, I'm busy with a lot of business. But I won't give up on this current draft( or any draft). I'm convenient from next Tuesday, so we will play next Tuesday or Wednesday.
 
Radamel Falcao scored as many as the cyborg with Porto and then Atletico. Is he considered worth a place in all-time drafts?

Then you have the like of Aubameyang with Dortmund then Arsenal.

Falcao falls a little bit short of Haaland's freaky goals per game ratio I think, and sadly barely got a chance to play in the CL in his prime. I thought he was a cracking player though and I'd happily pick him. As @Gio said, he was probably on a similar level to a few regularly selected players.
 
Distinct lack of Lewa in this discussion! As good a scoring rate but longer and consistent than any names mentioned above.

:lol: This somehow reminds me of the good old days when you'd knock up a best XI of the draft pool and include 5 or 6 of your own players. No one is mentioning Lewa because he's (rightly) regularly picked in any pool now!
 
I'd take Falcao more often, there are 1-2 centre-forwards who are picked regularly who IMO aren't any better.

But it comes down to a maximum of 16 centre-forwards picked in all-time drafts, when there are probably 30-40 heavy-duty goalscorers who could all stake a claim to be involved. I suppose what it comes down to is fit and attributes - Haaland's size, power and goalscoring make him stand out somewhat.
No, but per consensus neither is Haaland. Although I'd say peak Falcao (who like Auba never scored at Haaland-so-far levels) is kind of underrated and could feature more in less stacked drafts.

Falcao falls a little bit short of Haaland's freaky goals per game ratio I think, and sadly barely got a chance to play in the CL in his prime. I thought he was a cracking player though and I'd happily pick him. As @Gio said, he was probably on a similar level to a few regularly selected players.

All fair points. I just learned that Haaland is highly rated already.
 
:lol: This somehow reminds me of the good old days when you'd knock up a best XI of the draft pool and include 5 or 6 of your own players.
None of them being anywhere near the lofty heights reached by John Pantsil in midfield =>

I have tasked Pantsil to keep an eye on Liedholm. No 'taking him out' nonsense, but against a 'sitting deep' Liedholm, I expect Pantsil to have some joy.

Yes, that's a real quote, and he won the game.
 
I want him bigged up ! :lol: :lol:

:D It never hurts to start sowing the seeds, but I think his stock is plenty high thse days! Although Barca managing to get dumped out of the CL after pissing everybody off all summer isn't ideal for you.

None of them being anywhere near the lofty heights reached by John Pantsil in midfield =>



Yes, that's a real quote, and he won the game.

:lol: Oh I remember it well, and vigorously expressed my doubts in the match thread at the time. It was a great effort by Edgar though. Still don't know how he managed to pull that off!
 
All fair points. I just learned that Haaland is highly rated already.
It's because of the 3-year peak thing - which is nonsense and a very limited way to rate a player in my view. I think you really need a full career to really rate a player. Like Falcao, the likes of Mario Gotze had a great peak, but no one is seriously picking them because the overall career weighs down on them a bit.
 
It's because of the 3-year peak thing - which is nonsense and a very limited way to rate a player in my view. I think you really need a full career to really rate a player. Like Falcao, the likes of Mario Gotze had a great peak, but no one is seriously picking them because the overall career weighs down on them a bit.

That is my thinking, too. Also, there maybe other tangible elements on rating players. Trophies, world cup, influence on the team, awards, performance on high profile games??

Now he's with City, he has all the chance to be up there. But it certainly feels it's a bit too early for now.

His performances and statistics have showed it all and I think I’ve said once in general forum that he will be picked even more frequently in future.

Most likely. I'd say if he can maintain similar scoring rate for 3 seasons with City, he's up there with the best of all time. Or maybe less if he gets ballon d'or in a year or two.
 
Also, there maybe other tangible elements on rating players. Trophies, world cup, influence on the team, awards, performance on high profile games??
Would say they're an integral part of any peak level discussion? And something Haaland is surely lacking in his career so far.
But it certainly feels it's a bit too early for now.
Tbf, I think pretty much everyone has said the same here, it's a bit of a phantom discussion. (Which I kind of kicked off by playing devil's advocate over Pat's post.)

Draft acceptance seems to differ quite a lot on a case-by-case basis, which is probably inevitable. Don't think there's a formula that fits every player. For example, Lewandowski and Benzema only start to get all-time recognition now in their mid-30s, while others like the Brazilian Ronnies, Schweinsteiger, Edwards are highly rated on pretty short career peaks. (All of which is fine.) There just seems to be a point when a player "gets there" in draft terms, like De Bruyne recently, and it's different for everyone.
 
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Massive team. Are you out for the whole draft or could you get back for the QFs, if your side wins R1?
@GodShaveTheQueen the ley question here is whether you are out for a week or 2-3 weeks. If the latter it should be a walkover really.

I won't be able to participate in any debates as I fractured my collar bone and have a 24x7 arm sling for a month and can only type on phone with 1 hand which would be a pain in the ass to debate. Best I can do is provide a graphic with a 2 line OP. While I don't mind doing that, kind of against the spirit of match threads, so still wouldn't mind a bit if a walk over is awarded (or a different more deserving losing team gets another chance) .

Will let @Šjor Bepo take that call, my graphic is already present in the thread for R1 game if need be which I fortunately created as soon as drafting ensed. @Synco considering you find the team decent, do consider taking it over, should take little to no effort in games as it's a straight forward 4-2-3-1. Has great potential for reinforcements (I won't interfere, you can pick as you wish) as I avoided lot of pools.
 
I won't be able to participate in any debates as I fractured my collar bone and have a 24x7 arm sling for a month and can only type on phone with 1 hand which would be a pain in the ass to debate.
Ah shit, get better soon.
Best I can do is provide a graphic with a 2 line OP. While I don't mind doing that, kind of against the spirit of match threads, so still wouldn't mind a bit if a walk over is awarded (or a different more deserving losing team gets another chance).

(...) @Synco considering you find the team decent, do consider taking it over, should take little to no effort in games as it's a straight forward 4-2-3-1. Has great potential for reinforcements (I won't interfere, you can pick as you wish) as I avoided lot of pools.
Cheers, team is fantastic but I'm currently waiting on Beam and would finish his squad if he doesn't turn up (not sure if he knows of his "luck" yet).

I think you're grand for R1 without doing match discussions, the setup seems pretty straight forward. Draft mob can make up for it by discussing both teams. If you win, we can still see how the situation around Beam, Sinister & yourself is.
 
I won't be able to participate in any debates as I fractured my collar bone and have a 24x7 arm sling for a month and can only type on phone with 1 hand which would be a pain in the ass to debate. Best I can do is provide a graphic with a 2 line OP. While I don't mind doing that, kind of against the spirit of match threads, so still wouldn't mind a bit if a walk over is awarded (or a different more deserving losing team gets another chance) .

Live audio debate!
 
Would say they're an integral part of any peak level discussion? And something Haaland is surely lacking in his career so far.

Tbf, I think pretty much everyone has said the same here, it's a bit of a phantom discussion. (Which I kind of kicked off by playing devil's advocate over Pat's post.)

Draft acceptance seems to differ quite a lot on a case-by-case basis, which is probably inevitable. Don't think there's a formula that fits every player. For example, Lewandowski and Benzema only start to get all-time recognition now in their mid-30s, while others like the Brazilian Ronnies, Schweinsteiger, Edwards are highly rated on pretty short career peaks. (All of which is fine.) There just seems to be a point when a player "gets there" in draft terms, like De Bruyne recently, and it's different for everyone.

Agreed. KdB was finally accepted among the greats just about a year ago (?). At first it felt weird (to me). Lewa and Bastian takes a long time also, where the likes of Masch, Ramos, Kroos just never really took off. Even Nistelrooy that smashed the Eredivisie, PL, and La Liga is rarely considered in our drafts (when no era cut off / restriction).
 
Agreed. KdB was finally accepted among the greats just about a year ago (?). At first it felt weird (to me). Lewa and Bastian takes a long time also, where the likes of Masch, Ramos, Kroos just never really took off. Even Nistelrooy that smashed the Eredivisie, PL, and La Liga is rarely considered in our drafts (when no era cut off / restriction).
Yeah, in reality many of those who never play weren't actually far from the level of draft regulars. Certainly true for Kroos, who I love to bits as a player.
 
I won't be able to participate in any debates as I fractured my collar bone and have a 24x7 arm sling for a month and can only type on phone with 1 hand which would be a pain in the ass to debate. Best I can do is provide a graphic with a 2 line OP. While I don't mind doing that, kind of against the spirit of match threads, so still wouldn't mind a bit if a walk over is awarded (or a different more deserving losing team gets another chance) .

Will let @Šjor Bepo take that call, my graphic is already present in the thread for R1 game if need be which I fortunately created as soon as drafting ensed. @Synco considering you find the team decent, do consider taking it over, should take little to no effort in games as it's a straight forward 4-2-3-1. Has great potential for reinforcements (I won't interfere, you can pick as you wish) as I avoided lot of pools.

thats perfectly fine, michael and moby mastered that approach so you are perfectly fine
 
btw Beam wont be able to finish his team, @Synco can you do it for him and provide a formation picture for the OP
 
btw Beam wont be able to finish his team, @Synco can you do it for him and provide a formation picture for the OP
We're already busy PM'ing & will continue tomorrow. Team will be ready in time, ideally with him on the bench, otherwise me.
 
In time for....? When are we playing?
No specific time, just before the R1 period ends.

Looks like I'll be caretaker for this round, when do you prefer? Best for me would be starting on Monday evening (European time zone), Tuesday would be okay as well. But I can make it work earlier too if better for you.
 
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Team Beam finally complete.
 
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