Even though I am still reserved about his ability. I am happy to see a goalie work ever so hard to overcome his weaknesess and be the best as a full package. I hope he develops well and doesn´t stop when he makes a mistake which is inevitably coming with that style of play but I like proactive players always, including goalkeeper so I keep fingers crossed. Mentaility can take you very far I feel.
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I am not saying he is the best at it but he has been alot more proactive than DDG in this regard. He has contributed to 2 goals that I can recall this season, West Ham and Man City.
There is a decision to be made about our number 1 this summer, DDG will always be respected in my eyes, I would hate to see him mistreated but unfortunately his time as number 1 is done.
There are many occassions where he should have done better. We all criticise Maguire for not being a leader at the back, well with Henderson he is actually very vocal at the back, with a few seasons under his belt I can see him taking a leadership role at the back.
Definitely. There's always a question with highly self-confident players - what happens when they make a mistake? He's got his chance now, so we'll see.
Agree entirely.
I'm just wary of the caf's tendency to swing from extreme to extreme in terms of opinions. A lot of the people who are currently hailing his commanding presence, proactive style and stating that he is the obvious #1 would be the among the first to bury him if (as is inevitable) he makes mistakes or proves to still need work in those regards next season.
I agree with that.
I am not delusional to think that Henderson is miles better than De Gea. The reason I would change is because we have a keeper who looks determined to be our number 1 and the other end one who looks like he is tailing off slightly.
If you ask me do I feel secure with any of them in goal? No no 100%, I always have the feeling that they have a mistake in them.
If we are to back Henderson for the long term, we also have to accept he will make 1/2 mistakes and thats how he will grow. Keepers make mistakes, it will happen.
The last thing we want to do is lose Henderson for £10m (knowing Woodward he would sell him for a fraction of what we should get) then in 2/3 years go spend £60m on a keeper.
He seems to have figured out what the competition David De Gea doesn't do, and is working on them. That he is sweeping and trying to improve his overall influence in his box when that has probably never been his game is what you want to see, and that he hasn't been making too many mistakes despite trying to leave what has been his comfort zone is definitely a positive and shows he is capable.
Think his influence so far has been overstated by quite a few, but he is still a baby for a goalkeeper and comes across as a smart kid. He most likely recognizes what he needs to be doing, is working on them, and is putting himself to test on the pitch. He clearly isn't short of confidence, and has plenty of time to improve on what has to be improved.
In the short time he has been with our first team, he has shown that he is capable of claiming difficult crosses without flapping at them, sweeping against through balls without misjudging them, good old fashioned distribution, pretty vocal at the back, and already has plenty of credit for his shot-stopping at previous clubs.
Unless the flaps and misjudgements starts creeping in and becoming frequent which hasn't been the case in his more than a dozen caps, then what he needs is the club's backing and patience. Give him the gig full-time, and the more he keeps playing and the more secured his position is with the standards maintained, the more he will be willing to go for even more low percentage balls. He has shown that he is capable of being the complete package, and for a young lad, that is the most important thing.
For what we need right now to win this particular league, he suits us more. Command of the area is massive for us and unlike 2015-2018 where we needed top of the line shot stopping, our defence no longer requires that, as teams are less likely to get those shooting opportunities.
Obviously a lot of fans won't care, but I find it extra special that he's from the same academy year as Rashford, McTominay and Tuanzebe.
If they could become the foundation of a great United side it would be incredible for the academy.
If they could become the foundation of a great United side it would be incredible for the academy.
I don't think he'd ever be as good as peak De Gea, but he's certainly a lot more solid option based on current form. I'm strangely confident with him in goal.
Considering De Gea's partner has been pregnant for 9 months before this-
Does anyone think that Ole had always planned on giving Henderson the game time when De Gea needs some time off work?
It always seemed a bit worrying that there would be games where De Gea was not dropped after making mistakes even when Henderson played better in the following game in the EL.
I wonder if Ole had always told Henderson that he will get time to prove himself because De Gea will eventually be with his new baby.
Does anyone think that Ole had always planned on giving Henderson the game time when De Gea needs some time off work?
It always seemed a bit worrying that there would be games where De Gea was not dropped after making mistakes even when Henderson played better in the following game in the EL.
I wonder if Ole had always told Henderson that he will get time to prove himself because De Gea will eventually be with his new baby.
He is currently our best keeper and should be playing the league games. I don't know how good he will become but we do have very good GK coaches so who knows. He has done everything we asked of him and did shine at Sheff Utd last season. Good luck to him he has clearly worked very hard on his game.
In the summer we have a big decision to make as Henderson probably won't stay if he can't be number 1.
In the summer we have a big decision to make as Henderson probably won't stay if he can't be number 1.
I imagine Ole was there, 9 months ago, willing on Daves’ swimmers in order to fulfil his plan.
I personally just think this all came together as perfect timing to "give De Gea some time off" and that if this wasn't happening Ole would have given De Gea the yank a couple of matches ago...
It was an overhit pass by De Bryuyne to Sterling that may have forced him to receive it a bit deeper and wider but yes Henderson's position made it a nothing ball. We have seen De Gea literally backtrack in those situations and let the attacker calmly receive it.
Yes I think the main thing he is missing at the moment isn't neccessarily ability or fundamentals, it's game time. He's confident but (incoming body language expert here) you could tell he was also a bit nervous at times during the game. It's entirely natural because for all the talk he has literally said himself, from Ole and from the media, he has barely played. Every minute regardless of it being against Palace or City must feel a bit like make or break for him.
Ole must use this momentum and give him as much game time as possible. It's just one of those things where you have to play the man in form for his development and the greater potential it could lead for the team.
I think we need to sell DeGea and bring in a new keeper to provide back up.and competition to Henderson. I'd choose Luis Maximiano for that.
A good enough shot is always going to be a goal, regardless who is in goal.
It's not about shot stopping or even distribution.
The times he came out of the box to help the defense say it all.
He's a proactive keeper and is all we need.
De Gea is a massive part of why our defense have been so mediocre since 2011
It's not about shot stopping or even distribution.
The times he came out of the box to help the defense say it all.
He's a proactive keeper and is all we need.
De Gea is a massive part of why our defense have been so mediocre since 2011
Based on his interviews, he seems incredibly confident. Almost to a cnutish degree, and thats a good thing honestly
This. The man has Schmeichel's arrogance, not sure about ability though. But even if he has half of the Great Dane's skills, we're going to be in good hands.
United posted a clip of his thrown to Rashy from youth team which lead to Penalty which tells that he always had this in his locker.
Whether he is a better keeper overall than Dave is kind of irrelevant. Our goalkeeper in this set up needs to have certain characteristics that unfortunately Dave hasn’t, ever, had.
Commanding the area, claiming the ball from crosses, sweeping up behind the defence (which ddg is AWFUL at), bossing the defence about and just generally being ‘solid’.
Kasper Schmeichel would have been perfect for this team, but think we have a really good option in Henderson.
In days gone by, our team played to DDG’s defensive magic and he excelled but unfortunately he just doesn’t fit in Ole’s team.
Commanding the area, claiming the ball from crosses, sweeping up behind the defence (which ddg is AWFUL at), bossing the defence about and just generally being ‘solid’.
Kasper Schmeichel would have been perfect for this team, but think we have a really good option in Henderson.
In days gone by, our team played to DDG’s defensive magic and he excelled but unfortunately he just doesn’t fit in Ole’s team.
Our defense has been mediocre because of shit defenders and not finding a proper CDM for years. DDG was the only thing keeping us from finishing 10th at times and saving shots that no GK would save. Just because you have a short memory doesn't change the fact that he was the best GK in the world.
He has declined and that is undisputable, just don't spout bullshit like that. Hendo might turn out to be a great replacement but he might also turn out to be not good enough, then maybe some of you will understand how difficult is to find a quality GK like DDG was in his prime.
He made a massive error in his first PL start for us! Got caught on the ball against Sheffield.
Seems to have bounced back.
The guy clearly has a lot of mental resilience. Not many 20/21 year olds would not let their game drop if rival fans faked messages to pretend you were a Adam Johnson-esque paedo and people started sharing it around the internet as fact, like what happened with Henderson and the Leeds fans.
De Gea was very Good goalkeeper, but he was never the best in the world at any given point in time.
ex-pro goalkeepers never rated him in the top 3 for obvious reasons in hindsight. Great shot stopper, but never great aerially or got out of his comfort zone to command his area or organise the defence consistently.
firstly it’s subjective, but he was one of the best, and many considered him to be the best. Revisionism.
Sheffield United away. Early mistake cost us a goal, late save stopped us dropping two points I believe. Mentally, he’s there.
Only constant in the mediocre defence all those years.
I just feel secure with him between the post than with De Gea. Not sure if its because I really trust his qualities or because of De Gea's form over last 2-3 years. And its also a plus that he came through our academy.
Gerrard must be shit too then, one constant in their mediocre years, he retired and then they won the league.
And that is some kind of stick to beat him with?
He was actually. You just have a short memory.
Great keepers make their defense feel confident and comfortable which has never been the case with Dea in Goal and apart from that he hasn't been great with his National team nor he has been tested at Champion's League later stages high pressure games which is also partly down to our own shortcomings.
Well that's just a load of horseshit. You polled all ex-pro goalkeepers did you?
Plenty of people rated him among the best in the world, including current and former professional goalkeepers.
Which year you would say he was the best keeper in the world.
Yeah but when I say mistake costs us I mean we end up dropping points due to it. And then having to play the next game right after that
I do think he's got great confidence and Looks a leader at the back
Yeah, agree with the bold thing. Most great players have an arrogant or nasty streak imo
Bryan Robson too. Our PL wins coincided with his exit from the team, therefore he was the problem.
Exactly. It's always the best player that gets the criticism (on caf and recently) instead of the poor ones.
LVG last year and Mourinho's, first season I think if my memory doesn't fool me, that's without checking the years. He was incredible and won us games with pure shot stopping.
If Hendo reaches the same levels, albeit a different kind of GK profile, then we are in great hands.
let’s just say it’s convenient for Ole. He’s a big winner from this ... looks a good man manager/human being, gets to drop De Gea with minimal fuss and away from his mistakes/poor performances avoiding that controversy and gets to look at Henderson over a run of games without there being added pressure on him.
Gerrard was not a goalkeeper.
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