He's made like ~5 extremely poor passes straight to the opposition in this half alone. 2 of them led to big chances.
De Gea Replacement - Do not use for player performance chat
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Disgraceful thread, this guy is a legend! Goalkeeping is about stopping goals. Fantastic shot stopper.
Poor Dave is having a shocker with his feet tonight.
But he did have to pick the ball out of his own net seven times last time out. So he can’t be full of confidence.
Plus the weather is horrendous.
But he did have to pick the ball out of his own net seven times last time out. So he can’t be full of confidence.
Plus the weather is horrendous.
Every keeper is capable of making mistakes, but DDG just makes consistent bad passing errors that invite pressure onto us all the time, we cannot play out from the back the way ETH wants us to with him in the goal, it's just not possible at all.
He makes some world class saves too, but there are multiple keepers we can buy that can make world class saves.... like come on he cannot be #1 next season and we should absolutely not be offering him a new contract, it's absurd to play a keeper of such limited ability the amount he is on, nevermind what he would still be getting if we renewed
Genuinely the only thing he has is his reflex ability, he has no command of his area, he can't pass, he's like in the lowest percentile of claiming crosses, it's just not sustainable at all...
He makes some world class saves too, but there are multiple keepers we can buy that can make world class saves.... like come on he cannot be #1 next season and we should absolutely not be offering him a new contract, it's absurd to play a keeper of such limited ability the amount he is on, nevermind what he would still be getting if we renewed
Genuinely the only thing he has is his reflex ability, he has no command of his area, he can't pass, he's like in the lowest percentile of claiming crosses, it's just not sustainable at all...
I recognise that. But in the brief time we’ve looked like a football team in the last decade or so, it’s stood out as a massive source of pressure amongst looking fairly comfortable defensively.
I genuinely can't tell if this is a serious post. Although the fact you are an Ajax fan, I'd assume you were joking.
There isn't a single statistic out there that will point to him being a good goalkeeper anymore. What more do we need.
I doubt your pride as a Manchester United fan if you believe he is a legend.
It truly is. Just one of his many charms that has left me frustrated for years. Yet according to his supporters, we only want him sold due to his inability on the ball.
Out of all supporters i would have expected fans of Ajax to understand how important a GK is to the way a team wants to play.
Stop trying to hide your goalkeeper from us.
This means I succeeded.
The timing of this argument isn't great after conceding seven goals from eight shots in literally his last game.
It doesn't help that whenever he makes a mistake, he has that scared "deer in headlights" look. That can't inspire any confidence.
I’m blaming him for everything since 2013. The one constant.
Hysterical thread
I’m literally fecking screaming. Get rid.
We had Romero on 80k a week and we decide to give Dave a 375k contract one of the worst decicions ever. Even his so called world class saves in the last few games, while he showed good reflexes, most of the shots were aimed straight at him. 9 out of 10 of his saves I expect every professional keeper to make. I think he is average at best these days which is a shame because he saved our asses many times a long, long time ago.
His lack of ability on the ball is being shown up more and more now because of the way ETH wants us to play out from the back.
He's still a great shot stopper but he's not the right man for this new direction we are going in.
Such a shame because he's been a tremendous player for us over the years.
He's still a great shot stopper but he's not the right man for this new direction we are going in.
Such a shame because he's been a tremendous player for us over the years.
He isn't though anymore. He's been decidedly average as a shot stopper for a bit now, and every metric backs this up as well.
How many clean sheets has De Gea got this season? All comps and just PL?
About 15 isn't it? Which would put him as one of the best in Europe on that rather important metric. Though to be fair he's probably played a few more matches than most as well.
Edit - it's actually 16 in 39, which is his best since 2017/18. And we're in March.
Obviously helped by a better level of defence in front of him but still interesting that he's keeping teams out more often that he has for quite a while.
About 15 isn't it? Which would put him as one of the best in Europe on that rather important metric. Though to be fair he's probably played a few more matches than most as well.
Edit - it's actually 16 in 39, which is his best since 2017/18. And we're in March.
Obviously helped by a better level of defence in front of him but still interesting that he's keeping teams out more often that he has for quite a while.
Think you're being harsh. He's made some incredible saves this season even in the last month. Some he had no right getting to.
Rest of his game isn't good enough though. Becoming a big issue.
It's not even an opinion, objectively his stats as a keeper say that he's been a middle of the pack shot stopper in the league (compared to his prime years like 2017 where his shot stopping metrics blew everyone out of the water). He still will make Hollywood saves but he also lets in goals that he shouldn't.
This wouldn't be an issue if he was quality in other parts of his game, but we all know even at his best De Gea has never been good on the ball and reluctant to sweep/claim crosses/other more modern parts of keeping. So when the shot stopping deteriorates a bit and you're paying a player a world record salary for a keeper, it's a pretty big issue to address
I'm entirely convinced that we have to cut ties with de Gea completely if we're going to move forward as a team. We've been delaying the inevitable long enough, and as long as he's hanging around he will continue to start games for us.
He simply isn't good enough for United anymore. He probably wouldn't be happy staying on as the number 2, and even if he was, he isn't worth the premium you're paying in wages. I'm even tempted to say Heaton should be starting ahead of him currently.
He simply isn't good enough for United anymore. He probably wouldn't be happy staying on as the number 2, and even if he was, he isn't worth the premium you're paying in wages. I'm even tempted to say Heaton should be starting ahead of him currently.
His passing is out of place in the modern game. Top teams who want to dominate cannot have a keeper who keeps lumping it to nobody.
Hes one of our greats but it’s time to move on
Superb post,who would you bring in?
While I do think we need to adress the GK position for various reasons I still think the CB position is a priority. Varane is injury prone and Martinez is (as I said earlier) short and he needs a 6,5 team mate in a padnership. Offcourse we ship of Lindelof and Maguire signs for West Ham or another mid table club we need at least two CBs
Magic Mike
As much as he has been a great player for the club, we need to be objective and DDG weaknesses do not align with the way forward for the team. Till now we have been good at mitigating his weaknesses. A top team does not just minimise weaknesses, it also builds and converts these weaknesses into strength. This is why we need to get in a keeper who actually make us a threat when he has the ball at his feet, similar to Allison or Ederson in his prime.
Raya.
How is he not a legend? He has the most fans player of the year in the clubs history and is clubs record clean sheet holder. he's been great for us over the years. He clearly is a United legend.
Just because he doesn't suit the tactical style ETH now employs, doesn't take away from how good he really was back around 2015.
He's a Legend , no doubt about it.
& he's done if ETH stays after ownership change. That's why his contract wont be sorted till the club is sold or not sold.
& he's skills are not useful for style ETH plays. There's a reason why he has not suited up for Spain as much as he would have liked.
& he's done if ETH stays after ownership change. That's why his contract wont be sorted till the club is sold or not sold.
& he's skills are not useful for style ETH plays. There's a reason why he has not suited up for Spain as much as he would have liked.
David Raya may appease some of our fanbase who don't want to see David de Gea moved on, as at least his name sounds like our current keeper
All joking aside the reported £35m to £40m transfer fee for him (one year left on his contract at the end of the season) to bring him here from Brentford, means that we will be getting a fantastic goalkeeper for a very reasonable price.
His Premier League experience (knows the league), and fantastic all-round goalkeeping ability (including shot-stopping, claiming crosses, and distribution), could mean that he arrives with few teething problems, and seamlessly transitions into the team and style of play that Erik ten Hag wants.
David Raya may appease some of our fanbase who don't want to see David de Gea moved on, as at least his name sounds like our current keeper
All joking aside the reported £35m to £40m transfer fee for him (one year left on his contract at the end of the season) to bring him here from Brentford, means that we will be getting a fantastic goalkeeper for a very reasonable price.
His Premier League experience (knows the league), and fantastic all-round goalkeeping ability (including shot-stopping, claiming crosses, and distribution), could mean that he arrives with few teething problems, and seamlessly transitions into the team and style of play that Erik ten Hag wants.
No Club is paying £35m-£40m million for Raya, it wouldn't even be reasonable price had he been on longer contract with Brentford let alone with just year left , he would move for something like £15-£20m next summer or later for free once he run's out contract.
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I thought his reported price tag was £15-20mDavid Raya may appease some of our fanbase who don't want to see David de Gea moved on, as at least his name sounds like our current keeper
All joking aside the reported £35m to £40m transfer fee for him (one year left on his contract at the end of the season) to bring him here from Brentford, means that we will be getting a fantastic goalkeeper for a very reasonable price.
His Premier League experience (knows the league), and fantastic all-round goalkeeping ability (including shot-stopping, claiming crosses, and distribution), could mean that he arrives with few teething problems, and seamlessly transitions into the team and style of play that Erik ten Hag wants.
Sounds bargain price
@RkkMan too:
The price quoted was from this article, and was a figure given from his manager Thomas Frank (£40m)
https://www.skysports.com/football/...-southport-to-one-of-the-premier-leagues-best
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It's not his decision to make nobody is paying £40m for player with year left on his contract.
Brentford would be pricing him out of the move if they stick with that valuation and risk losing him for free if they can afford that good for them .