De Gea Contract Situation

Do you think David De Gea will sign a new contract at Man Utd this season?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Yes, but he'll still leave by the end of the season

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akash02 said:
It was blown out of proportion but he did make mistakes. Basel and Blackburn are 2 other games that come to mind.

He also had a shaky start to following season and was even dropped for a while until the derby. That was the turning point for him.
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Which was my point.

I've criticised the media myself for blowing it out of proportion but there were obviously mistakes - he was young and it was perhaps inevitable - what wasn't was to write him off and label him as a Fergie misjudgement the way the media did.
 
JPRouve said:
If you can name games that means that it didn't occurred often, keepers aren't perfect they all make some mistakes.
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Where do I say he made them very often? He had a shaky start to his United career, I don't think that's up for debate. No one's saying he was doing a Taibi every week. His talent was obvious even then.
 
sun_tzu said:
Only for the first year or so to help him settle I think
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I don't pay much attention to the players other than the actual football but read an article saying his parents liked it here, and wasn't in favour of him moving back to Madrid, at least not yet.
 
sun_tzu said:
Not sure... She was born in Madrid
Also she is 29 and as anybody with a 29 year old wife / gf will tell you that inbuilt baby alarm starts going off in them around then
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Yeap. Exactly this.

Its a complicated situation, to be fair to De Gea.

Although I'd simplify things by finding a younger girlfriend.
 
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devilish said:
I don't blame DDG TBH. The gap in terms of quality is evident. We're happy with 4th place while Real has a squad to seriously compete on all three fronts.

What I don't understand is the likes of Ronaldo or Kroos. Why move from a top club to Real? Ok they have won more than others but that is due to fascism. They are not the top payers anymore (Chelsea and PSG can pay more salary) or the best team (Barcelona and Bayern are). Not to forget that their attitude sucks and that is felt from the top levels (directors) to their fans.
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About your obsession with Franco that you repeat in every post:
The club that was helped for Franco was Atletico Aviación(Atlético de Madrid), a military team(Falangistas), that in 1936 was in second division. There are documents showing that he forced some of the best players in the country to sign with Atletico. This team was the only team in the country using planes for its travels.
-These are the titles during the 15 first years of Franquismo:
-Barcelona: 5 Ligas + 4 Copas= 9 trophies
-Valencia: 3 Ligas + 3 Copas= 6
-Athletic: 1 Liga + 4 Copas= 5
-Atlético: 4 Ligas + 0 Copas = 4
-Madrid: 1 Liga + 2 Copas= 3
-Sevilla: 1 Liga + 1 Copa= 2
Besides Madrid won the first liga title being him, in 1953/54, not an amazing record for the "team of the Dictator".
About di Stefano transfer the history is very complicate but there are 2 things that are truth: Barcelona didn´t respect Lima agreement and didn´t pay to Millonarios what they demand, and later when the spanish federation decided that Don Alfredo would play in both teams they didn´t accept the conditions leaving Barcelona´s board.
Franco didn´t help directly in Di Stefano transfer, however he did it with Kubala and Barcelona(catalan Tv documentary doesn´t say a word about this), his first propaganda decision involving football and comunism.
Franco started to be interested in football and Madrid once they started winning Copes d´Europe and of course he was not involved in Kopa, Puskas, Gento, Santamaría, Del Sol, Pachín , Didí or Rial.
There were favours in soil matters, but both with Chamartín and Camp Nou (Catalan tv documentary doesn´t say anything about the Barça help and they also said nothing about Mr Ellis, the referee in 1960/61 Cope d´Europe, canceling 4 legal goals to Madrid and classifying Barça.)
Barcelona won 64 trophies in 36 years(18 copas de España among them), Madrid 71 (accounting as well international trophies)
About all this, I´ve been arguing during years with culés and obviously the discussion doesn´t have an end, so I don´t expect to get a conclusion with you either.I can accept that both big teams(and Atletico Aviación) received helps in some moment but I don´t think that was so trascendent as you imagine, mixing Franco and Madrid in all your posts. Anyway if you affirm categorically that Madrid has won more due to fascism I suppose that you have read books about the matter and not only a couple of articles in press? .I also read many times that United was English federation team, with many complaints about referee helps but I don´t come to talk bullshit, subjective and based in theories.
I don´t comment anything about the rest of things of your post. I assume that you are being sarcastic.
 
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He's 4/1 to be at United next season on SkyBet. 1/6 to be at Madrid, the cnuts.
 
simonhch said:
Of course Dave has every right to run his contract down like he has, but as fans we've got every right to be pretty disgusted by it. This is not a little club we are talking about, this is England's most iconic club, one of the biggest in the world. We only need players here who love the shirt and don't want to be anywhere else.

In normal circumstances I'd be annoyed at the club for allowing this situation to develop; but given the managerial uncertainty of the last 2 years, it's understandable. I think it should be policy for the club to add an extra year option to every contract, that can be triggered at their sole discretion. Much like we had with Berbatov.

Loyalty goes both ways in football. Too often players get grief for leaving, when in reality the fans would want them out if they weren't playing well. But in De Gea's case, the club and fans have stuck by him through some comedy keeping, to help him develop into one of the world's best.

His parents should be telling him that he's far too young to be making career decisions to accommodate his girlfriend, if that is a factor. I am also turning against the idea of signing Southern European and Latin American players in general. They either struggle to adapt to the physicality and pace of the league, or if they do well, get their heads turned by big clubs from warmer climes. It might sound like a ridiculous generalization, but it is one I think we should consider when signing players. Unless you get these players young, say 16-18, so they can build some real affinity with the and complete their education under the unique British conditions, they represent almost too much of a risk for me.

Di Maria for example. I'm all for giving him another year, absolutely, amazing player under different circumstances. And some might say his problem is mainly Van Gaal's system. But he's also ridiculously light weight and soft for such a playing style. And at 60m and 26yrs old, you're not buying a player to watch him develop. You're buying the finished article. Supposedly.

I'm not sure what sort of cross cultural understanding we've got going on behind the scenes, but having lived in Spain for years I can tell you that Spanish men are typically mummy's boys, that are super picky about their food. People underestimate the importance of their cultural set up and how much it affects the psychology of Latino players.

Whenever I see us linked to shopping in Northern, Eastern, and Western European markets, I feel much more comfortable about the cultural and physical fit of the players. British, Dutch, German, Belgian, French, Scandinavian, Slavik, eastern bloc, Czech, Swiss, etc., yes please. Manchester United also has a greater cultural resonance in these areas, whereas the the Madrids and Barcas speak more emotively to those from Latin cultures. In short, South American, Spanish, Portuguese, Italian, buy with caution and increased reflection.

Cliffs: De Gea hurt my feelings.
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Only a raging weirdo that takes football too seriously would be "disgusted" with De Gea. He wants to live back home and play for another great club, it isn't a big deal and it isn't really an issue. And it certainly isn't something for a group of oddballs on the internet to get up in arms about. If De Gea wants to settle down in sunnier climes and start a family then it really isn't that strange at all.

Reality check for you. There isn't a single player at Manchester United as of now that "loves the shirt and doesn't want to be anywhere else." Players are here because the club pays monumental wages, there is a great chance of winning trophies and the stadium presents an opportunity to play infront of nearly 80,000 punters. If and when that changes, they'll be off in a flash, in the same way you or I will do in our own personal career's moving forward.
 
Kag said:
There isn't a single player at Manchester United as of now that "loves the shirt and doesn't want to be anywhere else."
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Erm, I have it on good authority from the 'Falcao thread' that he both 'loves the shirt' and 'clearly loves this club'.

The Tiger proves that loyalty can exist in the modern game. DDG could learn a lot from him.
 
Kag said:
Only a raging weirdo that takes football too seriously would be "disgusted" with De Gea. He wants to live back home and play for another great club, it isn't a big deal and it isn't really an issue. And it certainly isn't something for a group of oddballs on the internet to get up in arms about. If De Gea wants to settle down in sunnier climes and start a family then it really isn't that strange at all.

Reality check for you. There isn't a single player at Manchester United as of now that "loves the shirt and doesn't want to be anywhere else." Players are here because the club pays monumental wages, there is a great chance of winning trophies and the stadium presents an opportunity to play infront of nearly 80,000 punters. If and when that changes, they'll be off in a flash, in the same way you or I will do in our own personal career's moving forward.
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Good point. The rank hypocrisy in this thread is remarkable.
 
Kag said:
Only a raging weirdo that takes football too seriously would be "disgusted" with De Gea. He wants to live back home and play for another great club, it isn't a big deal and it isn't really an issue. And it certainly isn't something for a group of oddballs on the internet to get up in arms about. If De Gea wants to settle down in sunnier climes and start a family then it really isn't that strange at all.

Reality check for you. There isn't a single player at Manchester United as of now that "loves the shirt and doesn't want to be anywhere else." Players are here because the club pays monumental wages, there is a great chance of winning trophies and the stadium presents an opportunity to play infront of nearly 80,000 punters. If and when that changes, they'll be off in a flash, in the same way you or I will do in our own personal career's moving forward.
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Complete bollocks of a post.

How can you compare professional football to a regular career? All of the externalities in football make it completely unique. Fans buying season tickets, match day tickets, merchandise etc., make significant ongoing investments in the club. For many folk, football represents the primary form of stress release from every day life, and bonds people across social divides.

So of course fans will have an opinion, and feelings, on when players leave or turn their back on the club. They've made an emotional and financial investment in that player. Let's not equate it with Dave from your local Topman branch deciding to move jobs.

And when one talks about players loving the shirt and not wanting to play somewhere else, what we are talking about here is them not actively seeking moves, and being committed to the cause. Of course the top players would leave if the stadium was half empty, wages were crap, and the team didn't compete. What's your point? Because this has never been the case at United, and never will be. Which makes wanting to leave an even more personal decision.
 
Kag said:
Only a raging weirdo that takes football too seriously would be "disgusted" with De Gea. He wants to live back home and play for another great club, it isn't a big deal and it isn't really an issue. And it certainly isn't something for a group of oddballs on the internet to get up in arms about. If De Gea wants to settle down in sunnier climes and start a family then it really isn't that strange at all.

Reality check for you. There isn't a single player at Manchester United as of now that "loves the shirt and doesn't want to be anywhere else." Players are here because the club pays monumental wages, there is a great chance of winning trophies and the stadium presents an opportunity to play infront of nearly 80,000 punters. If and when that changes, they'll be off in a flash, in the same way you or I will do in our own personal career's moving forward.
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What a stupid post
 
De Gea is good....a very good keeper, but not the only good one out there. If he goes he goes, just wish he would actually make up his mind or at state his intentions to be honest...it's all getting a bit boring and going on long enough.
 
carvajal said:
About your obsession with Franco that you repeat in every post:
The club that was helped for Franco was Atletico Aviación(Atlético de Madrid), a military team(Falangistas), that in 1936 was in second division. There are documents showing that he forced some of the best players in the country to sign with Atletico. This team was the only team in the country using planes for its travels.
-These are the titles during the 15 first years of Franquismo:
-Barcelona: 5 Ligas + 4 Copas= 9 trophies
-Valencia: 3 Ligas + 3 Copas= 6
-Athletic: 1 Liga + 4 Copas= 5
-Atlético: 4 Ligas + 0 Copas = 4
-Madrid: 1 Liga + 2 Copas= 3
-Sevilla: 1 Liga + 1 Copa= 2
Besides Madrid won the first liga title being him, in 1953/54, not an amazing record for the "team of the Dictator".
About di Stefano transfer the history is very complicate but there are 2 things that are truth: Barcelona didn´t respect Lima agreement and didn´t pay to Millonarios what they demand, and later when the spanish federation decided that Don Alfredo would play in both teams they didn´t accept the conditions leaving Barcelona´s board.
Franco didn´t help directly in Di Stefano transfer, however he did it with Kubala and Barcelona(catalan Tv documentary doesn´t say a word about this), his first propaganda decision involving football and comunism.
Franco started to be interested in football and Madrid once they started winning Copes d´Europe and of course he was not involved in Kopa, Puskas, Gento, Santamaría, Del Sol, Pachín , Didí or Rial.
There were favours in soil matters, but both with Chamartín and Camp Nou (Catalan tv documentary doesn´t say anything about the Barça help and they also said nothing about Mr Ellis, the referee in 1960/61 Cope d´Europe, canceling 4 legal goals to Madrid and classifying Barça.)
Barcelona won 64 trophies in 36 years(18 copas de España among them), Madrid 71 (accounting as well international trophies)
About all this, I´ve been arguing during years with culés and obviously the discussion doesn´t have an end, so I don´t expect to get a conclusion with you either.I can accept that both big teams(and Atletico Aviación) received helps in some moment but I don´t think that was so trascendent as you imagine, mixing Franco and Madrid in all your posts. Anyway if you affirm categorically that Madrid has won more due to fascism I suppose that you have read books about the matter and not only a couple of articles in press? .I also read many times that United was English federation team, with many complaints about referee helps but I don´t come to talk bullshit, subjective and based in theories.
I don´t comment anything about the rest of things of your post. I assume that you are being sarcastic.
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Like anything fascist you cant expect it to be successful. Still there's no denying that you received help by the generalissimo. The Di Stefano deal, the famous 11-1 defeat etc. Speaks volumes of what sort of people Real had in their history.

And tell me when we were the English federation team quoting history in the way we did. United lost their best team ever because of the FA, which lets face it, it can be stubborn but nowhere near as shit and corrupt as your former 'mate' Franco or your socio Blatter.
 
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devilish said:
Like anything fascist you cant expect it to be successful. Still there's no denying that you received help by the generalissimo. The Di Stefano deal, the famous 11-1 defeat etc. Speaks volumes of what sort of people Real had in their history.

And tell me when we were the English federation team quoting history in the way we did. United lost their best team ever because of the FA, which lets face it, it can be stubborn but nowhere near as shit and corrupt as your former 'mate' Franco or your socio Blatter.
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It seems that you have a very strong need to dismiss everything Madrid has ever accomplished in a desperate attempt at trying to come out as the best team in history yourself. Envy is a funny thing.

Whatever floats your boat though.
 
Vato said:
It seems that you have a very strong need to dismiss everything Madrid has ever accomplished in a desperate attempt at trying to come out as the best team in history yourself. Envy is a funny thing.

Whatever floats your boat though.
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Don't worry devilish hates Utd too
 
I think we're all just getting a bit overly rowdy in here due to the sight of Damien's drawn out member, let's all calm down and be mates.
 
I just wanted to say that I think he is going to stay.
 
The amount of points that De Gea won for us this season was truly remarkable for a goalkeeper. Hopefully, next season if he does leave, we will have a more cohesive defensive unit and a reliable keeper in his place. If we go into next season without any improvement to our defense, I believe even the likes of lloris or Cech will struggle to ensure us a point or a victory.
 
Amadaeus said:
Hopefully, next season if he does leave, we will have a more cohesive defensive unit and a reliable keeper in his place.
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I don't think we can have a cohesive defensive unit without a settled, world class goalkeeper. Uncertainty between the posts will inevitably lead to uncertainty in the whole defence.

He's our most important signing of this Summer but it very much looks like he's going :(
 
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