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No, of course not. Not individually and also not as a team. He is comfortably behind our 2 best keepers
Surely his longevity helps though, VDS wasn't with us that longNo, of course not. Not individually and also not as a team. He is comfortably behind our 2 best keepers
VDS was for me better than Schmeichel. He was better on the ball therefore more suited to the mordern game and had a calming effect on the defence. At everything else, they were about equal.Best I've seen at United. I think he was better than VDS - who's wildly overrated because of the crap that came before.
Schmeichel is a different beast all together with his legacy in football.
you are kidding right?Best I've seen at United. I think he was better than VDS - who's wildly overrated because of the crap that came before.
Schmeichel is a different beast all together with his legacy in football.
Edwin as he had, by far, the best defenders in front.
Above VDS?I am a bit divided on this tbf. Definately the best shot stopper we've ever had. Unbelievable reflexes! Lacking a bit of courage and rubbish (for some unknown reason) on penalties.
I'd put him as no 2 after big Pete
Longevity should only count in terms of top level / one of the best discussions if it is SAF, Giggs or Scholes like longevity, which means competing/winning big trophies (PL or CL) at the highest level until the end.Surely his longevity helps though, VDS wasn't with us that long
Myth, never existedGood luck in your future career DDG. Time is right to move on though. If not for a dodgy fax machine he would of left years ago.
Big Pete, Edwin, DDG for me.
This is an insane takeBest I've seen at United. I think he was better than VDS - who's wildly overrated because of the crap that came before.
Schmeichel is a different beast all together with his legacy in football.
Great at his best, brilliant even, but he was never at Schmeichel’s level. Debatable about VdS.
It’s the YouTube generation mateThis is an insane take
He’s behind Schmeichel and VDS. Not sure it’s particularly close either.
No.When you’re saying of all time, are you forgetting about Alex Stepney, Harry Gregg and Gary Bailey?
Allison is probably the first keeper after VdS that I feel makes the goal half the size for attackers.VDS's organizational skills and calming effect on the defense (in addition to all his obvious strengths as a GK) make him the best of the three for me.
Watching the same defenders play with Kuszczak, Foster, or even DDG behind them - night and day difference.
I'd say De Gea's longevity actually hurts him, seeing as his last five seasons were quite poor. In fact if you look at his career here as a whole, he was only particularly good for 50% of the time. He struggled in his first season, then had six good-to-great seasons, then struggled again for another five. If he'd left after 17/18 or at most one or two seasons after that he could have really pushed VDS for second (Schmeichel is clear #1), but his significantly lower level just went on far too long that it has to hurt his standing in these types of comparison. VDS never had a poor season for us. Schmeichel was somewhat poor in the first half of his last season.Surely his longevity helps though, VDS wasn't with us that long
I made a thread on this in 2016 and most people were convinced he was the best. I think he’s behind both Pete and Edwin but marginally.
Firstly, stats only show pieces of the puzzle. Secondly, DDG had longevity on his side - winning four player of the season by both fans and players. I preferrrd VDS personally, but it is still debatable.it’s not, out of the 3 VDS average save % is in the 80s then Big Pete then De gea low 70s
Then add to that the greater organisation from Schmeichel and VDS, then add to that the throphy haul.
Big Pete in particular and VDS for me standout in my lifetime. Im a bit young to remember Gary Bailey.
De Gea third but I do wonder how he would have performed with the likes of prime Rio, Vidic, Evra and Neville in front of him.
Perhaps we'd think him better than VDS had he played in that team?