Day 6: Finland vs Russia | Turkey vs Wales | Italy vs Switzerland

4 points will surely get wales through if they hold on here
 
caught sleeping, uphill battle for turkey once again. lets see if it spirals further for them.
 
Super goal.

Turkey don't look good but have been impressed with Wales, good threat from James, Bale and Ramsey
 
Was Turkey rated even a little bit coming into the tournament? They are dire. Great touch and composure (finally) for the goal, but that's a horrible defensive breakdown. The run was so deep yet went unchallenged.

For a de facto home match, this has been quite poor from Turkey.
 
Are we watching the same game? He’s had two sensational passes to set up really strong goal scoring opportunities.

Edit: and he just did a third that Ramsey finished, GET IN

Yes we are both watching a finished former World Class player do some good things against a team somehow worse than Ireland and I'm still laughing at how anyone dared to say he was a better player than Giggs. Great goal though. I am actually supporting Wales and Scotland for this tournament!
 
Ramseys timing and movement has been unreal with these deep runs.
Talent has always been there... maybe a week or three with squad/Wales (he loves playing for his country) and some good training sessions has made a difference, after a tough season
Robbie Savage is embarrassing. I wish they'd stop putting pundits on games of their nationality.
Most/all of Wales agrees
 
He needs to change his game, as he's no longer got that pace to get him past players.

Wonderful ball!
Definitely, he should have Beckham to look to in terms of how he adapted his game towards the end of his career.
 
Yes we are both watching a finished former World Class player do some good things against a team somehow worse than Ireland and I'm still laughing at how anyone dared to say he was a better player than Giggs. Great goal though. I am actually supporting Wales and Scotland for this tournament!

Fair enough, but he’s been rilliant this game, so the sticking to golf comment is miles off

Edit: and I usually support Ireland too!
 
Robbie Savage is embarrassing. I wish they'd stop putting pundits on games of their nationality.
Nuts to that, I'll take a bit of passion over monotone professionalism, especially in international tournaments (at least when it comes to the co-commentator).
 
I don’t know how someone can watch the same game and have such absolutely awful takes

They're finished because Ramsey stunk up the place for Juve and God knows who wants him now. Bale embarrassed himself at Spurs and God knows who wants him too. Playing alright against Turkey isn't an indicator of anything. Former Ramsey would have a hat trick by now.
 
Talent has always been there... maybe a week or three with squad/Wales (he loves playing for his country) and some good training sessions has made a difference, after a tough season

This might be my brain playing tricks on me, but feels like 10s do better in international football these days apart from Bruno.
 
Yes we are both watching a finished former World Class player do some good things against a team somehow worse than Ireland and I'm still laughing at how anyone dared to say he was a better player than Giggs. Great goal though. I am actually supporting Wales and Scotland for this tournament!

he’s in the twilight of his career. It came a lot earlier than Giggs. So what. Doubt you will find many Welsh people who would say Giggs was better for Wales - and that’s all that matters when discussing the Euros.
 
Just seen the goal again. Fair fecking play bale. Hell of a ball.
 
Fair enough, but he’s been rilliant this game, so the sticking to golf comment is miles off

Edit: and I usually support Ireland too!

Ah no I'm likely being harsh because I always hated the Bale is better than Giggs argument! But I worry for the two at club level unless they are willing to take the step down a bit. They are both still good but finished at the top is what I meant, which is where I guess they both still want to play!
 
This might be my brain playing tricks on me, but feels like 10s do better in international football these days apart from Bruno.
Thought he was wasted the other night and he moved away from key areas to get the ball.

Surely Jota gets binned (play that winger who came on as sub) and stick Bruno as 10 behind Ronnie
 
They're finished because Ramsey stunk up the place for Juve and God knows who wants him now. Bale embarrassed himself at Spurs and God knows who wants him too. Playing alright against Turkey isn't an indicator of anything. Former Ramsey would have a hat trick by now.

you know players don’t score every chance…

will have to look on YouTube and find all the videos of Ramsey scoring international hat tricks
 
They're finished because Ramsey stunk up the place for Juve and God knows who wants him now. Bale embarrassed himself at Spurs and God knows who wants him too. Playing alright against Turkey isn't an indicator of anything. Former Ramsey would have a hat trick by now.

I wouldn’t say Bale embarrassed himself at Spurs, he was unfit for the first half but I think the fans were fairly happy with him. Don’t know what the likes of @balaks thinks (sorry mate you’re the only Spurs fan I know on here)

I agree that Ramsey would have had more goals in his earlier days, but the lad still has great off the ball movement, that never leaves!

I apologise for my dickish tone, I shouldn’t post duri if the game as my adrenaline is flying and I’m squeezed into my two sizes too small Welsh top. God speed mate
 
he’s in the twilight of his career. It came a lot earlier than Giggs. So what. Doubt you will find many Welsh people who would say Giggs was better for Wales - and that’s all that matters when discussing the Euros.

Fair enough! But I'm not referencing Internationals but rather the suggestion that Bale was a better player than Giggs overall, which is crazy to me!
 
Dan James is a very good player. But unfortunately he's not the right type of player for the type of football we play.
 
I wouldn’t say Bale embarrassed himself at Spurs, he was unfit for the first half but I think the fans were fairly happy with him. Don’t know what the likes of @balaks thinks (sorry mate you’re the only Spurs fan I know on here)

I agree that Ramsey would have had more goals in his earlier days, but the lad still has great off the ball movement, that never leaves!

I apologise for my dickish tone, I shouldn’t post duri if the game as my adrenaline is flying and I’m squeezed into my two sizes too small Welsh top. God speed mate

Ah no bother mate! Ive been dickish enough myself!! Best of luck, I really hope you guys get through and turn some heads like you did the last time!
 
Robbie Savage is embarrassing. I wish they'd stop putting pundits on games of their nationality.

This happens every time England plays in a major tournament, though. The commentators (and the pundits) are incredibly biased. It's nothing new, although it can be grating I agree.
 
I really don't understand all the fuss about Turkey.

They showed absolutely nothing and, bar Soyuncu, they're incredibly shaky at the back. One of the worst teams I've seen in this Euro and they're on their way out.