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For me it's.
Garnacho, Mainoo, Bruno, Hojlund, Amad, Dalot and Onana that I would keep. Martinez if he can keep fit.
I'd agree with that.
For me it's.
Garnacho, Mainoo, Bruno, Hojlund, Amad, Dalot and Onana that I would keep. Martinez if he can keep fit.
If anyone in the squad - which has put in two of the worst United seasons in recent history in the last three years - is surprised that they're on the chopping block if we get a good offer, then maybe that's why we stay so shit. They don't need to be the brightest spark to imagine maybe they aren't guaranteed a place here, particularly when they play terribly.
Is the report substantial enough for us to know it's coming from INEOS? If that's the case, I completely agree with you. I've been skeptical about this lot precisely for the way they've been playing to the gallery since they arrived. Too much talk and PR obsession.Think INEOS have been listening a bit too much to the drama Queens on here and twitter.
Publicly announcing that your entire squad is despensible and irrelevant to you is a really, REALLY dumb thing to do.
It doesn't just affect the morale of pretty much every current player, but also warns anyone player with a single ounce of sense off wanting to join. You'd be better off staying at a Brighton or Fulham than joining a toxic environment at a club where you probably won't finish any higher and will face 50x the scrutiny.
We would also get relegated if we sold everyone except Garnacho, Mainoo and Hojlund, and would then have to sell them anyway. So the rest of the squad isn't for sale. So why come out and brief the fecking press that it is?
They're not going to sell Bruno and keep Mctominay for example, just to raise enough money to sign someone worse thwn Bruno.
Why do we always end up with complete and utter fecking imbeciles in charge?
A player or multiple players underperforming and the hierarchy feeling said player(s) are up for sale and the hierarchy briefing this piece of information to the media are two completely different things. Who does it serve to announce this to the world? What if we can't shift these players? How does it help you negotiate? It's a dumb move if it indeed is a briefing by INEOS that is. But of course these are not dumb people which leaves me to think it's the old pandering to the fans and getting some PR for being tough and ruthless or whatever which would be in line with how INEOS have been behaving since they came in.If anyone in the squad - which has put in two of the worst United seasons in recent history in the last three years - is surprised that they're on the chopping block if we get a good offer, then maybe that's why we stay so shit. They don't need to be the brightest spark to imagine maybe they aren't guaranteed a place here, particularly when they play terribly.
We're not scaring off Real Madrid here. Mid-table sides will still want our mid-table players. Those that wanted Aaron Wan-Bissaka and Lindelof last week are not going to have second thoughts because they think we're open to selling them. Saudi Arabian teams aren't going to look at Casemiro differently because they know we think his legs can't hack the premier league anymore.You don't publicly announce that you think k your entire playing staff are so shite you want to get rid of them. Even if it's true, you don't do this. It's a nuclear option and nuclear options aren't great when the target is yourself.
Honestly don't at this point see why anyone has any optimism or faith at all in INEOS. At best this is incredibly dumb and at worst it's deliberately destructive.
You can sell players without publicly announcing you think they're all rubbish.
If you were selling a car you wouldn't advertise it as "still need it but it's a bit crap so open to offers"
Someone get Boehly on the line.Absolutely not.
Quite the overreaction.Think INEOS have been listening a bit too much to the drama Queens on here and twitter.
Publicly announcing that your entire squad is despensible and irrelevant to you is a really, REALLY dumb thing to do.
It doesn't just affect the morale of pretty much every current player, but also warns anyone player with a single ounce of sense off wanting to join. You'd be better off staying at a Brighton or Fulham than joining a toxic environment at a club where you probably won't finish any higher and will face 50x the scrutiny.
We would also get relegated if we sold everyone except Garnacho, Mainoo and Hojlund, and would then have to sell them anyway. So the rest of the squad isn't for sale. So why come out and brief the fecking press that it is?
They're not going to sell Bruno and keep Mctominay for example, just to raise enough money to sign someone worse thwn Bruno.
Why do we always end up with complete and utter fecking imbeciles in charge?
Strange post. I'm delighted that the majority of the squad are available for transfer. Sick of watching them.Think INEOS have been listening a bit too much to the drama Queens on here and twitter.
Publicly announcing that your entire squad is despensible and irrelevant to you is a really, REALLY dumb thing to do.
It doesn't just affect the morale of pretty much every current player, but also warns anyone player with a single ounce of sense off wanting to join. You'd be better off staying at a Brighton or Fulham than joining a toxic environment at a club where you probably won't finish any higher and will face 50x the scrutiny.
We would also get relegated if we sold everyone except Garnacho, Mainoo and Hojlund, and would then have to sell them anyway. So the rest of the squad isn't for sale. So why come out and brief the fecking press that it is?
They're not going to sell Bruno and keep Mctominay for example, just to raise enough money to sign someone worse thwn Bruno.
Why do we always end up with complete and utter fecking imbeciles in charge?
Yeah, not a chance we look to turnover the personnel in the wing positions, unless they actively want to leave. People don’t want to hear it because he’s the scapegoat of the season, but he’s one of the top players in his position in European football. Maybe not the absolute very best, but right up there.
Like all players, to get the most out of him you surround him with complimentary players in a well structured system. For both Rashford and Garnacho to thrive that means full backs comfortable offering width and overlapping, as well as a centre forward who can link play and act as a fulcrum. If you want to get the most out of Garnacho, you are going to need the same sort of full back and same sort of centre forward. Sack Rashford off, don’t provide Garnacho with them, and you will be decrying the understudy’s lack of development in a year or two’s time too. He demands the same transfers to have the platform to perform.
It’s always worth reviewing the list of slam dunk upgrades on Rashford people have insisted upon on the forum over the years. The list is very, very ugly. Just look at who we have signed in his time at the club and who he has outperformed and seen off.
Varane's out of contract anyway, since the club has elected not to take up its option for another year. At least that's a positive sign. No "protecting the value" of a player no club would pay a transfer fee for anyway.
I'd love to see him end up at Madrid. He would then see just how patient United fans have been with him for years.He thinks he’s harshly treated here, good luck if he ends up at a team where match going fans demand success.
Yeah, top 4 is gone, and other than the cup final-which should be motivation enough- i'm sure everyone connected with this season wants to see it go away. Going from 6th place to 3rd back to 6th or 7th place in three years is hardly the most encouraging platform to build on, despite the temptation to put all the blame on the managers.It’s also the absolute truth. Most of this squad aren’t good enough to be here. Who cares if it hurts their feelings.
Bruno and Dalot yes. Onana, I don't think would be safe if a new manager with his own preferred style of keeper comes in.
A lot of managers nowadays prefer to build from the back and therefore opt for ball playing keepers.
Depending on whether the ball is being played to one's own team or opposition.
Onana's not a 'great' shot stopper but he's not bad at all and not to mention he's very good on the ball. So the question would be, what sort of style would the new manager want that would do away with Onana and there's an available 'better' keeper on the market? Last year it was Maignan but apparently his form has dipped this season.
Are there elite shot stoppers great at commanding their box even around? Oblak and Neuer perhaps but are on the decline and no longer spring chickens. Donnarumma, who was meant to be the next best thing, whilst still very young seems to be stuck on his line a lot and for such a big guy, doesn't use his frame that well.
The new manager would obviously know what they want from a keeper. Having someone who can play from the back may be less of a consideration than a world class shot stopper with good command of the box. Who that may be is up to them and the scouting department. It will be hard to make a case for Onana being our guaranteed #1 given how many goals we conceded this year, which is far more than we did last year with De Gea in steep decline.
Hard disagree. This is a good example of something that a manager simply should not be dictating in the new structure.The new manager would obviously know what they want from a keeper. Having someone who can play from the back may be less of a consideration than a world class shot stopper with good command of the box. Who that may be is up to them and the scouting department. It will be hard to make a case for Onana being our guaranteed #1 given how many goals we conceded this year, which is far more than we did last year with De Gea in steep decline.
That kind of thinking is the reason we are shit. No standards anymore, only sentiments. Ffs Fergie even sold Becks who was 10 times the player Rashford is. And that is why we were successful a long time agoTell the world we want to sell him without telling the world we want to sell him.
It would be sad to see him go. He has given us some wonderful moments in the last XI years of a shit show. However, if he is not happy here it would be best for both parties to part ways as long as he gets us a 80m-100m Euros payday.
Come on PSG, show us the money!
The new manager would obviously know what they want from a keeper. Having someone who can play from the back may be less of a consideration than a world class shot stopper with good command of the box. Who that may be is up to them and the scouting department. It will be hard to make a case for Onana being our guaranteed #1 given how many goals we conceded this year, which is far more than we did last year with De Gea in steep decline.
That kind of thinking is the reason we are shit. No standards anymore, only sentiments. Ffs Fergie even sold Becks who was 10 times the player Rashford is. And that is why we were successful a long time ago
He thinks he’s harshly treated here, good luck if he ends up at a team where match going fans demand success.
"Getting him back to top form"..."unless substantial bids".
The thin is last season was prob once in a lifetime form where everything goes golden, take that away and what level os his top form and what is a substatial bid?
As personally his top form so far, Id take £70m for him anyway, I think anything over £50m is a good deal,especially losingthose ludirous wages from our books
He'll stay.. unless he leaves.