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David Moyes West Ham Manager | Gone (pedantic sod Sarni)
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That was one of the poorest sides to win the Premier League, the 12/13 United side - Tom Cleverley started half of the PL games that season. It was literally only the managerial genius of SAF that got us across the line.
To expect Moyes to just waltz to the title the following season was never going to happen. I honestly think he was harshly judged.
Also for people to say he's arrogant considering the current incumbent of the position is strange. Many, if not all top managers have a streak of arrogance about them.
And many, if not all top managers have a sacking somewhere on their CV - Mourinho included and Ancelotti only recently. It seems to be fashionable to build Moyes up as some sort of joke manager and I think that's wide of the mark.
Sunderland have been on the brink of relegation for the past 5 - 6 seasons. The club are in turmoil - hardly Moyes fault. Granted he didn't help but you cant blame him for them being near the bottom of the Championship.
He removed an incredibly successful backroom staff and replaced them with his Everton cronies who had never won anything. SAF explicitly told him that he shouldn't. He did it anyway.
I didn't expect him to waltz to the title. I don't think anyone did. I didn't expect him to take us to seventh.
EDIT Mourinho has a track record that allows him to be arrogant. Moyes doesn't.
This excuse needs to stop. I see so many people use it without looking at it in context. The team won the league by 11 points so they were able to perform well. There was still some very good players in that squad. De Gea, Evra wasn't past it just then as he performed well for Juve for a while. Carrick, Rooney, RVP, Nani, Valencia, Hernandez, Young. All still very good footballers at the time. All Moyes had to do was make a few decent signings. Instead he chased Fabregas and Thiago all summer then signed Fellaini on deadline day in a panic buy and earned the name Dithering Dave. Any other manager would have made some decent signings. To finish 7th after winning the league by 11 points has to be on the manager. He was told not to get rid of the backroom staff but his arrogant self did not listen. Instead he brought in Phil Neville and his mates from Everton who all had no experience in winning trophies.
Just seen this
This!
My sitcom for the year sorted. ! Popcorn!
My sitcom for the year sorted. ! Popcorn!
No one expected Moyes to waltz, walk or crawl to the title. The vast majority of United fans and the club itself (given the clause in his contract) only expected a top 4 finish yet he couldn't even manage top 6 with a side that amassed 89 points the previous two seasons.
And yes many top managers are arrogant but Moyes isn't a top manager thats why his arrogance and smugness rubs people the wrong way. The more he fails the more full of himself he gets.
He recently said no one including Ferguson himself, you know the guy who had won the league the year before with the same squad could have finished higher than 7th in 13/14. So not only does he think he's as good as Ferguson he must also think he is currently the best coach in world football if no other manager could have done better than him that year in his mind.
Do yourself a favour mate stop trying to defend Moyes it's pointless.
The fans knew that Moyes was/is a bad choice...yet WHU board, didn't?
I said previously that if WHU hire Moyes, they should instantly be dismissed on grounds of gross incompetency and negligence.
Unbelievable!
I agree with everything you've said, but this nickname was given to himway before his stint here, Everton fans had been calling him that from what I can remember, it's just we realised it to be accurate that summer.
Re Moyes to West Ham, I'd expect they'd rather anyone, literally ANYONE take over from Bilic than Moyes, I hate West Ham fans with a passion but I wouldn't wish Moyes on them.
Think the arrogance the Sociedad fan mentions above well and truly showed itself there. Think he saw them as a threat. If he had the confidence he comes across as having, why would they be a threat?
Moyes is a great manager. Manchester United was a big step for him and i believe we had too many expectations from him. He managed Everton for a long time and did very well with them. He maintained the budget there well and brought in quality players all the time. Sunderland were too mediocre and below par. West Ham is the right club for him and i personally want him to do well.
Yeah, I know - they really have ideas above their station to be honest, such an unlikeable club and fanbase.
Funny enough, now they need exactly that man or type of man to save their skin!
Moyes came to OT. What SAF took 2 decades to build, Moyes ripped it apart in 10 months.
He took the reigning champions (who could probably manage themselves, without a manager) and had us finish in 7th place. A position which we had not finished for many years.
Even Everton knew when to cut ties with Koeman, meanwhile we hung on to Moyes for 10 damn months.
He should've been fired the very day he set foot at Old Trafford and started taking photos like a lost tourist.
And even now, some 3-4 years later, we are still trying to repair the damage done by Moyes.
And as for your comment about "harshly judged"? WTF!
He wasn't judged harshly enough. I'd have stripped him down to his underwear and had him chased out of Manchester by a mob.
LVG got fired after he'd just won us the FA Cup.
Moyes got off really lightly.
Moyes and his supporters, really makes my blood boil.
I doubt many people expected Moyes to waltz the title. They also didn't expect him to explode so spectacularly and, amongst other issues, plunge the side to seventh. Even by the lowest of expectations he was an absolutely horrendous failure.
Many of the top managers are indeed arrogant. One of Moyes' many problems is that this is one of the few traits he shares with top managers. On its own and without other positive qualities to compensate for it it's yet another glaring flaw.
It's only fashionable to build Moyes as a joke because of the terrible job he did here and in subsequent roles. That's on him.
What a coup for West Ham. A Champions League level manager, who has led a team to beat the mighty Barcelona.
Surely, all the world class names will be begging their agents to get them a move to West Ham United.
Surely, all the world class names will be begging their agents to get them a move to West Ham United.
WTF is going on in this place, with these Moyes sympathisers?
He lasted 10 months at MUFC...then got fired, for doing a really really bad job.
He then went to R.Sociedad and got fired within a year, for doing a bad job.
He then went to Sunderland and got them relegated.
On what planet is he a great manager?
The guy can't stop getting himself sacked.
Yep they must definitely still be handing out likes for sticking up for Moyes.
Notice how most of them are newbies, they are fishing for likes.
I'm not sure you realise what great means.
"West Ham should aspire to be like Watford"
At least while we're playing shit football we'll still be able to laugh at West Ham for playing worse
That image should be put under the words gloominess and hopelessness in the dictionary
Excellent, can't wait for West Ham to get relegated
He has better players at his disposal than at Sunderland so has an outside chance of doing well.
However, he is the worst man to motivate a team on the planet and that’s the exact opposite of what this West Ham team needs right now.
However, he is the worst man to motivate a team on the planet and that’s the exact opposite of what this West Ham team needs right now.
'we aspire to be like Leyton Orient'
Tbh I am tired of all the Moyes hate, would love him to do great at West Ham just because of all the haters.
Well they had only been training dos, tres, cuatro times to be fair..
Hitting the ground running:
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Great news, hopefully he can relegate them now.
David Sullivan wards off Count Daveula with the sign of the cross
Delighted. Moyes was hilarious as United's manager and didn't disappoint afterwards either. I still watch the Erramendi-Video dos, tres, quatro times a day and I hope he produces some more zingers.
Genuine foreigner's question: Why does everybody hate West Ham?
Genuine foreigner's question: Why does everybody hate West Ham?
It's so weird that some clubs still consider him as a good manager whilst he failed his last 3 jobs. Is he a manager who can change attitude of players and perfomance style at West Ham? No. Is he enough self-confident for rebuilding team who played very bad for last few years? No. Hardly sacking from his previous clubs didn't pass without a trace to him. He had a coward nature before he was sacked from United, so just imagine what is he like by now. Moyes is totally devastated as a person.
The Undertaker would probably do a better job.
I'm genuinely amazed Moyes has managed to worm his way back to this level. The situation with Bilic was nowhere near desperate enough to call for measures like these.
Between him, the owners and shady Brady that club is rapidly becoming the most unlikeable in the Premier League.
Between him, the owners and shady Brady that club is rapidly becoming the most unlikeable in the Premier League.
Gotta make that sign 81 times for it to work. Dildo Bro got his work cut out.