David de Gea has left Manchester United

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I told you, they absolutely don’t rate him in Spain. If he’s not at United, he’d end up at a mid table club in Germany or Saudi Arabia.
 
That's both Bayern and Real Madrid preferring other goalkeepers despite Dave being available on a free
 
I just hope he isn't another one to go to SA out of desperation or mere greed. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. A lot of the top clubs in Europe would still be lucky to add him IMHO, especially with the experience he now has. Only problem as already indicated seems to be his wage demands. The unfortunate thing for him is that his position now seems relatively rich with promising goalies who are significantly younger than him and would cost a lot less.
 
Is this not a wake up call to his fanboys? No top club wants him. He's done at the top level, and has been for years. Our club pampered him way too much.
 
I just hope he isn't another one to go to SA out of desperation or mere greed. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. A lot of the top clubs in Europe would still be lucky to add him IMHO, especially with the experience he now has. Only problem as already indicated seems to be his wage demands. The unfortunate thing for him is that his position now seems relatively rich with promising goalies who are significantly younger than him and would cost a lot less.
Nope it wasn’t sudden it’s been a continuous and painful decline for over 5 years now and we have been suffering during that period. Top teams won’t touch him with a barge pole.
 
I just hope he isn't another one to go to SA out of desperation or mere greed. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. A lot of the top clubs in Europe would still be lucky to add him IMHO, especially with the experience he now has. Only problem as already indicated seems to be his wage demands. The unfortunate thing for him is that his position now seems relatively rich with promising goalies who are significantly younger than him and would cost a lot less.

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Yeah, he is on a free, and not even good clubs are looking to add him. Experience does not count for much when you are bang average. All top clubs in Europe have better first choice keepers. Most midtable clubs in the top 5 leagues have better allround keepers. I would be shocked if even a midtable club in a top league would offer him the starting spot. He is past his best and his skillset is not suited to modern football. Only way is downhill, as keepers dont tend to improve reflexes as they age.
 
It's tricky for Dave because there is obviously a more limited pool of opportunities for goalkeepers than other positions. And if he actually thought he was going to be staying here I wonder how aggressive his team were in sounding potential clubs out in advance.

Even if he still believes himself to be capable of playing at CL level he might have to do what Van Der Sar did after he flopped at Juventus and take a step down to try and prove himself again.

And tbh that sort of newly promoted or relegation battling team where you're facing high volumes of shots probably would be the best environment to make him look good. It's not hard to imagine a world where he goes to a club like Forest and plays a massive part in them staying up.
 
Yes please, as long as it’s on reduced wages.

Won’t happen but I’d Love that.

He needed replacing as number 1, but what a fecking back up / cup keeper he’d be.
Why would you want a number 2 where we'd have to change our entire build up phase just to accomodate?
 
Yes please, as long as it’s on reduced wages.

Won’t happen but I’d Love that.

He needed replacing as number 1, but what a fecking back up / cup keeper he’d be.
Do we really want the Sevilla debacle to keep happening again? DDG doesn't fit the system.
 
A bit sad to see the way this has petered out - it's not his fault. He's done his bit for us, and I wish he had more grace in the way things ended. He will age better for us - in the way that Rooney did, though obviously not to the same extent.
 
The De Gea bashing bums me out. He was a great keeper for United. Some posters should show a little more respect, in my humble opinion.

I don't think he was ever a great keeper for us. Good at times I will give him that. Pretty awful at other times aswell.

But his flaws have always made him thrive in cahos that he was partly responsible for in creating in the first place.

Having a GK that dosent command or sweep or distribute well (he has never been a particularly good distributer, average short to medium and terrible long) and stays deep unwilling to go high at all really has never been a particularly good tactic for any team that wants to dominate there opponents and get on the front foot.

Outstanding shot stopper at times, yes no doubt. But everything else pretty terrible really.
 
I don't think he was ever a great keeper for us. Good at times I will give him that. Pretty awful at other times aswell.

But his flaws have always made him thrive in cahos that he was partly responsible for in creating in the first place.

Having a GK that dosent command or sweep or distribute well (he has never been a particularly good distributer, average short to medium and terrible long) and stays deep unwilling to go high at all really has never been a particularly good tactic for any team that wants to dominate there opponents and get on the front foot.

Outstanding shot stopper at times, yes no doubt. But everything else pretty terrible really.
How was he not great In those post fergie years up until that world cup?
 
I don't think he was ever a great keeper for us. Good at times I will give him that. Pretty awful at other times aswell.

But his flaws have always made him thrive in cahos that he was partly responsible for in creating in the first place.

Having a GK that dosent command or sweep or distribute well (he has never been a particularly good distributer, average short to medium and terrible long) and stays deep unwilling to go high at all really has never been a particularly good tactic for any team that wants to dominate there opponents and get on the front foot.

Outstanding shot stopper at times, yes no doubt. But everything else pretty terrible really.

In our worst period when we had fecking training dummies as defenders he was the savior for us. He almost single handily saved us many times finishing where Chelsea finished last season in those years

We can say he should have swept more etc. but should he not also feel confident in his defenders to do their job? He will naturally be hesitant if he sees the clown force in front of him running into each other
 
I just hope he isn't another one to go to SA out of desperation or mere greed. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. A lot of the top clubs in Europe would still be lucky to add him IMHO, especially with the experience he now has. Only problem as already indicated seems to be his wage demands. The unfortunate thing for him is that his position now seems relatively rich with promising goalies who are significantly younger than him and would cost a lot less.

No, it's taken a few years.
 
How was he not great In those post fergie years up until that world cup?

He was an outstanding shot stopper, like I said. But there is alot more to goalkeeping than that. It's no coincidence that we have struggled throughout his tenure as No1.
 
He’s a mental midget who would crumble under the pressure of playing for fans who would demand success, who don’t just “back their man”, top reds, or should I say top whites. I don’t know why our fans think we owe this fraud anything. He tried to leave before, he’s never improved his game, he’s a glorified shot stopper. I can’t wait to see him implode at real, even in a farmers league like La Liga, I trust this man to crumble.

Oh and his abysmal mistakes cost us the 2012 title. feck off Dave.
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He was an outstanding shot stopper, like I said. But there is alot more to goalkeeping than that. It's no coincidence that we have struggled throughout his tenure as No1.
So our post fergie blimp was our keepers fault?
 
In our worst period when we had fecking training dummies as defenders he was the savior for us. He almost single handily saved us many times finishing where Chelsea finished last season in those years

We can say he should have swept more etc. but should he not also feel confident in his defenders to do their job? He will naturally be hesitant if he sees the clown force in front of him running into each other

A good goalkeeper makes average defenders look good, and good defenders look world class.

A poor goalkeeper makes good defenders look average and average defenders look crap.

Evans looked very good Infront of V.D.S. looked like a clown Infront of De Gea.

Even Ferdinand and vidic looked pretty poor Infront of De Gea.

Pique and Ramos, world class apart from Infront of De Gea. Average Infront of De Gea.

Maguire Infront of any other goalkeeper looks like a capable defender. Infront of De Gea. Complete clown.

The list goes on. It's always been the defenders or the midfielders fault. Guess we will find out this season.
 
A good goalkeeper makes average defenders look good, and good defenders look world class.

A poor goalkeeper makes good defenders look average and average defenders look crap.

Evans looked very good Infront of V.D.S. looked like a clown Infront of De Gea.

Even Ferdinand and vidic looked pretty poor Infront of De Gea.

Pique and Ramos, world class apart from Infront of De Gea. Average Infront of De Gea.

Maguire Infront of any other goalkeeper looks like a capable defender. Infront of De Gea. Complete clown.

The list goes on. It's always been the defenders or the midfielders fault. Guess we will find out this season.
How will we find out this season? We've a new defense and midfield.
 
So our post fergie blimp was our keepers fault?

No, not compleatly anyway. But he has been a constant factor and a constant issue in it. Amongst other issues at times.

But the only time we have looked even slightly solid defensively was under LVG playing the most boring football you could imagine and to a certain extent last season. Where 2 genuinely world class CB and a world class DM and some very deep defending made us look capable of defending. At least until we come up against good opposition that could just pin us in because we couldnt push up or play through.
 
I'd be amazed if anyone on this forum was saying this during those years. Would love to see a few of them
 
With supporters likes this, who needs enemies.
With supporters who back substandard players like him, you get a decade of our club winning feck all. Ever thought why Madrid maybe successful? You think this guy would survive a season there? Their fans don't tolerate even the best players dropping their form.

These guys are paid obscene amounts of money. So yes that should come with the pressure. Have you seen the pressure formula one drivers are under? The levels they need to maintain? Heck doctors are paid a pittance compared to the likes to De Gea, you think they don't deal with shitty patients on a daily basis? You want fans to support the players at any cost? How about these multi millionaires deliver what they're paid to do?
 
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With supporters likes this, who needs enemies.
Agreed. It's so weird to me that some of our fans seem to have this sort of attitude towards a player that was a really good servant to the club, even if they didn't rate him. Particularly AFTER he's left. Just let it go, he's gone now...
 
With supporters who back substandard players like him, you get a decade of our club winning feck all. Ever thought why Madrid maybe successful? You think this guy would survive a season there? Their fans don't tolerate even the best players dropping their form.
Yep, because supporters backing our players is definitely the reason we've underachieved over the last decade...:wenger:
 
I just hope he isn't another one to go to SA out of desperation or mere greed. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. A lot of the top clubs in Europe would still be lucky to add him IMHO, especially with the experience he now has. Only problem as already indicated seems to be his wage demands. The unfortunate thing for him is that his position now seems relatively rich with promising goalies who are significantly younger than him and would cost a lot less.

It wasn’t sudden, it was a gradual process that a couple of people pointed out about 5 years ago (and were bashed for). Mistakes crept in, his weaknesses became more exposed, teams crowded him at set pieces for a reason, the defence struggled at a high line due to DDG being incapable of sweeping up.

The goalkeeper position has changed, I reckon most clubs would rather a sweeper goalkeeper even if it they’re not the best shot stopper around.

DDG has unfortunately come up short against Spanish sides so his reputation mustn’t be that high there. The fact he’s not even 5th choice for the national teams says a whole lot about his reputation and ability
 
I just hope he isn't another one to go to SA out of desperation or mere greed. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. A lot of the top clubs in Europe would still be lucky to add him IMHO, especially with the experience he now has. Only problem as already indicated seems to be his wage demands. The unfortunate thing for him is that his position now seems relatively rich with promising goalies who are significantly younger than him and would cost a lot less.
You're right. He didn't suddenly become a shite goalie. He's been bad for 5 years and somehow thinks he's good enough to command the wages of a top goalkeeper. That's why he has no club despite being a free agent for close to two months. So the Caf ministry of truth on here can think he's an excellent goalkeeper but real life says different.
 
A bit sad to see the way this has petered out - it's not his fault. He's done his bit for us, and I wish he had more grace in the way things ended. He will age better for us - in the way that Rooney did, though obviously not to the same extent.
His unwillingness to improve beyond being a reactive goal-line keeper is his fault. He was clearly a bloke who had a comfort zone and didn't like being taken out of it. Even having a little whinge now and then if his coaches weren't his mates.

There was no reason a keeper with talent like Dave couldn't take it upon himself to claim crosses, challenge for a ball at a strikers feet (has he ever done this?) or start a couple of yards up the pitch to intercept hopeful balls over our back line. He didn't because he didn't want to and was afraid of physical contact with the opposition or his near post.

He's paying for it now, although the 100 million we gave him over the past five years to be substandard will surely see him through.
 
Yes please, as long as it’s on reduced wages.

Won’t happen but I’d Love that.

He needed replacing as number 1, but what a fecking back up / cup keeper he’d be.
Yes please, I want to keep losing every European quarterfinal we play.
 
What's up with some posters still hating de Gea? Have I missed something?

I just don't get the obsession, full stop. You can guarantee there will still be people posting about Maguire in a year's time, same as if he was still here. People feel the need to keep repeating the same opinion, over and over. Like you might've missed their take the first 43 times they came out with it.

Like you get all these people waffling on about Ronaldo. Who gives a shit what he's doing in some tenth rate league? Once a player leaves, good or bad, they might as well not exist as far as I'm concerned
 
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