David De Gea | Free agent | Said his goodbyes

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FootyGirl88 said:
This is very childish, he needs to take the hint and just look for a new club.
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Or maybe the club could have told him he won’t be getting a new contract after 11 years of service?

Im all for getting a new keeper but this whole situation is once again looking like amateur hour at United.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
jesus i hate man united fans these days

hope ddg goes somewhere he is appreciated
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The club is being stupid but DDG hasn't been good enough for years, and should have been replaced years ago.
 
Reapersoul20 said:
jesus i hate man united fans these days

hope ddg goes somewhere he is appreciated
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Agreed. The response has been shocking. I don't disagree that it's his time to go but some of the pseudo-vitriol has been pathetic to see.
 
L1nk said:




The club is being stupid but DDG hasn't been good enough for years, and should have been replaced years ago.
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I don't think many disagree that it's time for him to go, though? What people are taking issue with is the manner in which the club has handled it. Also, some of the thinly-veiled vitriol aimed at him by our supposed fans is absurd.
 
Castia said:
Or maybe the club could have told him he won’t be getting a new contract after 11 years of service?

Im all for getting a new keeper but this whole situation is once again looking like amateur hour at United.
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Not saying I agree with how the club have handled it, yes there should have been better communication. DDG is now out of contract he his free to look for a new club, no one is forcing him to wait on utd to give him a new deal.
 
Pickle85 said:
I don't think many disagree that it's time for him to go, though? What people are taking issue with is the manner in which the club has handled it. Also, some of the thinly-veiled vitriol aimed at him by our supposed fans is absurd.
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How has the club handled it?

Nobody knows, it's all media driven bollocks.

What I take is that the club and him had agreed on something initially and then Dave decided to end the season in calamity style and thus the club went and took their offer back.

The club hasn't said anything or done anything as far as we're concerned so all this faux outrage defending him is just as bad as the so called vitriol.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
How has the club handled it?

Nobody knows, it's all media driven bollocks.

What I take is that the club and him had agreed on something initially and then Dave decided to end the season in calamity style and thus the club went and took their offer back.

The club hasn't said anything or done anything as far as we're concerned so all this faux outrage defending him is just as bad as the so called vitriol.
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Agree, the takeover is also taking way longer than they also anticipated also so money is a bit tighter.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
How has the club handled it?

Nobody knows, it's all media driven bollocks.

What I take is that the club and him had agreed on something initially and then Dave decided to end the season in calamity style and thus the club went and took their offer back.

The club hasn't said anything or done anything as far as we're concerned so all this faux outrage defending him is just as bad as the so called vitriol.
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There's a lot of chat around it, too much along the same lines for it to be rubbish. It seems that we agree on the fact that the club offered a contract, then withdrew the offer. It's a shabby way to treat a great servant and it's a shame that it had to end like this. If the club didn't want him they should have made that call earlier, given him the opportunity to say a proper goodbye to the home fans and let him go.
 
TheGame said:
We agreed a contract with him so not you can say he 'cleaned us out'. The Board didn't have to agree the contract and as for blaming him for costing us trophies and UCL football, that's just laughable. Cleary some anti DDG glasses which is stopping you from talking any sense.
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You are still living in the past. His time is up and the club is doing the right thing. We can't afford to have him as number 1. Real Madrid got rid of their big signing in Eden hazard due to his poor level of performances, de gea also needs to go.
 
This passive-aggressive shit from De Gea is embarrassing.

The club not being decisive in regard to his situation is also a bit amateurish.
 
L1nk said:




The club is being stupid but DDG hasn't been good enough for years, and should have been replaced years ago.
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In the smaller version of that random lads Twitter picture, Fergie kind of looks like Elon Musk and it's disconcerting. It is time for DDG to go, but the club haven't handled it well and fans slagging him off is totally unnecessary IMO.
 
Pickle85 said:
There's a lot of chat around it, too much along the same lines for it to be rubbish. It seems that we agree on the fact that the club offered a contract, then withdrew the offer. It's a shabby way to treat a great servant and it's a shame that it had to end like this. If the club didn't want him they should have made that call earlier, given him the opportunity to say a proper goodbye to the home fans and let him go.
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Come on, only 6 weeks ago all outlets said INEOS were buying the club... Just because all the media say the same means nothing, they all talk shit and until a select few journalists or the club says something then it's worth ignoring.
 
FootyGirl88 said:
Not saying I agree with how the club have handled it, yes there should have been better communication. DDG is now out of contract he his free to look for a new club, no one is forcing him to wait on utd to give him a new deal.
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I think it was put to Dave that further talks would commence over a deal hence why he or the club have released no goodbye statements.

It is time to move on, i actually think the keeper position should be our top priority but for god sake why not just tell him weeks ago that we‘re moving on? It’s because up until the past few days we were still undecided on Onana….you know less than a week before pre season starts and we’re still unsure what to do. It’s a mess like usual .
 
edgecutter said:
You are still living in the past. His time is up and the club is doing the right thing. We can't afford to have him as number 1. Real Madrid got rid of their big signing in Eden hazard due to his poor level of performances, de gea also needs to go.
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What are babbling on about? I never said that we don't need a change, I agree with that. My point was you claiming he had rinsed the club when it was a contract we agreed with him.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
Come on, only 6 weeks ago all outlets said INEOS were buying the club... Just because all the media say the same means nothing, they all talk shit and until a select few journalists or the club says something then it's worth ignoring.
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Why on earth would the club come out and admit that they'd screwed up here yet again due to a lack of planning and general disorganization?

The unanimity on this story is far greater than the SJR vs SJ debacle, let's not even pretend otherwise.
 
DDG is a legend for me - love the guy. It does seems that the decision has been made though at this stage. With the general feeling from the fans that it's time to move on plus this contract mess, I just think it would be incredibly difficult for him to stay now.
 
TheGame said:
What are babbling on about? I never said that we don't need a change, I agree with that. My point was you claiming he had rinsed the club when it was a contract we agreed with him.
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He did, he got more than what he was worth. Do you actually think he was value for money on 375k a week?

You also talked about him not being treated well. I would say he was one of the most pampered players we had in a long time. Time and time again he should have been dropped, but retained his place. He was treated brilliantly by the club and his performances became such an issue that we are where we are. He should have been let go years ago.
 
edgecutter said:
He did, he got more than what he was worth. Do you actually think he was value for money on 375k a week?

You also talked about him not being treated well. I would say he was one of the most pampered players we had in a long time. Time and time again he should have been dropped, but retained his place. He was treated brilliantly by the club and his performances became such an issue that we are where we are. He should have been let go years ago.
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Yep you are right, let's blame DDG for all of our woes, it's all his fault and no one else's.
 
Tweeting out an emoji is worse than going on Piers Morgan and calling everyone in the club a cnut IMO.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Sad if he’s ruining his United legacy.
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He’s obviously under the impression that further contract talks would resume and he’s seeing reports that we’re in for 2 keepers. He’s well within his rights to wonder what the feck is happening

The moment we made our intention to sign Onana he should have been told there was no contract offer coming.
 
TheGame said:
Yep you are right, let's blame DDG for all of our woes, it's all his fault and no one else's.
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What are you on about? The player needs to go, he has been given so much slack by management and fans that no other club would have been kind enough to do. In my opinion he has not been treated poorly. He was never worth 200k for a new contract and finally the club is doing the right thing.
 
Pickle85 said:
If your employer offered you one contract which you were ready to sign, then whipped it away and replaced it with a contract with far less favourable terms how would you feel? There's no getting away from the fact that we've behaved badly here.
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Except he wasn't ready to sign it until the end of the season and in football things change very quickly. ETH and the club are using this opportunity to better our chances of reaching the top again and sometimes being a bit ruthless is the only way. Going into next season with DDG as number 1 could literally cost ETH his job.
 
Castia said:
He’s obviously under the impression that further contract talks would resume and he’s seeing reports that we’re in for 2 keepers. He’s well within his rights to wonder what the feck is happening

The moment we made our intention to sign Onana he should have been told there was no contract offer coming.
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The club may have told him that or that he would be 2nd choice.

This thread is full of guessing and it's skewing people's thought process.
 
edgecutter said:
What are you on about? The player needs to go, he has been given so much slack by management and fans that no other club would have been kind enough to do. In my opinion he has not been treated poorly. He was never worth 200k for a new contract and finally the club is doing the right thing.
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You seem to fail to respond to any of the points yet just want to keep ranting about DDG, you carry on.
 
Castia said:
He’s obviously under the impression that further contract talks would resume and he’s seeing reports that we’re in for 2 keepers. He’s well within his rights to wonder what the feck is happening

The moment we made our intention to sign Onana he should have been told there was no contract offer coming.
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He’s out of contract. He’s nothing to do with United anymore
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
He’s out of contract. He’s nothing to do with United anymore
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Yeah but obviously further talks was planned

The club or DDG himself haven’t released a goodbye statement there’s no chance that happens if it was clear he was leaving
 
This feels like everyone is largely on the same page but people are just arguing over the finer points.

He wasn't good enough anymore
His wages were frankly ridiculous
He was a top keeper once upon a time but the game has moved on and he isn't quite where he was
We have handled his exit very poorly

This crap about being ruthless is just that. Everyone wants us to be ruthless but that doesn't mean being an unnecessary cnut. DDG had to go. Not in this way though. Pretty simple. RM don't do this.

As to vitriol towards him, i've seen almost none. Most people are simply pointing out that he isn't good enough and his wages are insane when you consider he isn't even a top 10 keeper in the league anymore and yet hes paid like hes the best keeper in the world by some margin. I've always been a big fan of DDG since he arrived. Doesn't change my opinion that he needs to be moved on.

Thanks for everything Dave and I hope you find a new club and fanbase that makes you happy for the rest of your career. Nice bloke by all accounts.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
He’s out of contract. He’s nothing to do with United anymore
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It's not really that simple given he obviously has that ongoing relationship with United and is still (in theory at least) in communication with them regarding his future. Don't forget, the most recent updates we have are that the club are still looking to negotiate a renewal with him on terms of some kind.

Which means he very much still is something to do with United, until one or both parties actually make the call that it's done rather than letting the prospect of renewal rumble on.
 
De Gea is still listed as our player at the official website…
 
TheGame said:
How is he doing that exactly? By tweeting an emoji?
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sullydnl said:
It's not really that simple given he obviously has that ongoing relationship with United and is still (in theory at least) in communication with them regarding his future. Don't forget, the most recent updates we have are that the club are still looking to negotiate a renewal with him on terms of some kind.

Which means he very much still is something to do with United, until one or both parties actually make the call that it's done rather than letting the prospect of renewal rumble on.
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Tweeting stupid emojis obviously aimed at the club, but not tagging them, is cowardly and not going to help anyone.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Tweeting stupid emojis obviously aimed at the club, but not tagging them, is cowardly and not going to help anyone.
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The thing is, he's right. The way the club are handling this isn't normal and deserves criticism. And while tweeting emojis isn't helpful, if I was in his position I'd be tempted to be a lot more harsh and detailed in my public utterances.

Assuming that is indeed what that tweet is referring to.
 
The club don't owe him anything, he has been getting paid pretty well for his services!

He is on a contract, not a salaried member of staff.
 
sullydnl said:
The thing is, he's right. The way the club are handling this isn't normal and deserves criticism. And while tweeting emojis isn't helpful, if I was in his position I'd be tempted to be a lot more harsh and detailed in my public utterances.

Assuming that is indeed what that tweet is referring to.
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They absolutely do not, deals get pulled all the time and based on his performances overall its right to carry on without him.
 
Smores said:
We've always been a bit shit at dealing with players at the end of their contracts.

We've clearly strung him along in case we needed him. Fair argument that serves the club well but i'd still rather we'd sorted out goalkeeper and let him know he wasn't wanted months ago.
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Do you really trust him to have ended the season well if we'd let him know months ago we didn't want him anymore? Obviously he wouldn't have done it deliberately, but the fact he quite consistently falls apart under pressure makes me think there is an unacceptably high chance that he would have completely shit the bed, potentially costing us top four and the FA Cup final (the latter of which arguably happened anyway). As far as I'm concerned, the club had to keep telling him (whether truthfully and falsely) that we still wanted him.

I probably do agree that we should have given him a definite 'thanks for the service but it's time to leave' a couple of weeks ago though.
 
MadDogg said:
Do you really trust him to have ended the season well if we'd let him know months ago we didn't want him anymore? Obviously he wouldn't have done it deliberately, but the fact he quite consistently falls apart under pressure makes me think there is an unacceptably high chance that he would have completely shit the bed, potentially costing us top four and the FA Cup final (the latter of which arguably happened anyway). As far as I'm concerned, the club had to keep telling him (whether truthfully and falsely) that we still wanted him.
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By all accounts we offered him a contract months ago that basically said we did want him, he didn’t sign it immediately, proceeded to be shit for the remainder of the season, then tried to sign it but had it withdrawn and replaced with one reflecting his future use in the squad.

Had he not been so shit for the tail end of the season we might not have prioritised a new keeper in the way we seem to be doing and let him keep the initial offer (despite taking an age to sign it).
 
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