David De Gea | Free agent | Said his goodbyes

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11101 said:
Yet again we have handled this horribly with one of the few players who has earned the right to be treated better.

Let's be honest, he's far too good to be a number 2 keeper, but even as a backup he's not what we want anymore. We dont want any player where we have to change our style when theyre on the pitch. We should have told him that and let him find a new club months ago, and sorted ourselves a new keeper in the meantime.

I hope we now have time to properly recruit a new keeper and he has time to sort a new club because he should be playing in one of the top leagues for sure.
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I don't think we did. De Gea earned 100 million on his last contract with the club that's enough to retire a very rich man. He pretty much cleaned us out without offering anywhere near the investment made. In fact he cost us trophies and champions league football with ole in his first season as manager.

He cost the club a number of times over those last 5 years, and only due to incompetence was he allowed to remain. Any major club in Europe would have binned him off a long time ago. He's been handle with kid gloves here, and it's about time we move on.
 
What happens if he gets injured now? I hope he has insurance.
 
edgecutter said:
I don't think we did. De Gea earned 100 million on his last contract with the club that's enough to retire a very rich man. He pretty much cleaned us out without offering anywhere near the investment made. In fact he cost us trophies and champions league football with ole in his first season as manager.

He cost the club a number of times over those last 5 years, and only due to incompetence was he allowed to remain. Any major club in Europe would have binned him off a long time ago. He's been handle with kid gloves here, and it's about time we move on.
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United have definitely handled this badly, but I’m only concerned about the implications for the team ie not leaving enough time to sign a new keeper, if that’s what we’re going to do. I couldn’t care less about ‘club legend’ DDG being treated with ‘disrespect’ as, like you say, he’s absolutely rinsed us over the last few years while offering little but big game feck-ups in return.

I’m tearing my hair out at the thought of these contract negotiations dragging out through the summer.
 
edgecutter said:
I don't think we did. De Gea earned 100 million on his last contract with the club that's enough to retire a very rich man. He pretty much cleaned us out without offering anywhere near the investment made. In fact he cost us trophies and champions league football with ole in his first season as manager.

He cost the club a number of times over those last 5 years, and only due to incompetence was he allowed to remain. Any major club in Europe would have binned him off a long time ago. He's been handle with kid gloves here, and it's about time we move on.
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It's not fair to say he rinsed us. He's played as well as he could, yes there have been mistakes but that's not been intentional, and crucially he has kept his mouth shut through all of it. We offered him a stupid contract and hes no longer good enough for us but none of that was his fault; he held his end of the deal up as best he could.
 
I don't think many spanish clubs are interested in him as none of the mid tables team can pay his wages (even lowered).

Think he doesn't have many choices this summer so I assume he will take the second spot at United behind Onana (if we can buy him)
 
edgecutter said:
I don't think we did. De Gea earned 100 million on his last contract with the club that's enough to retire a very rich man. He pretty much cleaned us out without offering anywhere near the investment made. In fact he cost us trophies and champions league football with ole in his first season as manager.

He cost the club a number of times over those last 5 years, and only due to incompetence was he allowed to remain. Any major club in Europe would have binned him off a long time ago. He's been handle with kid gloves here, and it's about time we move on.
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We agreed a contract with him so not you can say he 'cleaned us out'. The Board didn't have to agree the contract and as for blaming him for costing us trophies and UCL football, that's just laughable. Cleary some anti DDG glasses which is stopping you from talking any sense.
 
Hopefully we get Onana and that Turkish GK to be our number 2. Love De Gea and he's been great for us (phenomenal in 2013-2018 period) but even if he stays as a backup we'd be paying too much to someone to mostly sit on the bench.

Other top PL clubs of at least most of them would replace De Gea at least few years ago.
 
TheGame said:
and as for blaming him for costing us trophies and UCL football, that's just laughable.
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Not really. He's made a LOT of mistakes in cup knock-out games, including semis and finals. And while he wasn't the only reason we missed the top four in 18/19, he was the main one. Then another mistake knocked us out of the CL in the group stages a couple of seasons ago.
 
11101 said:
It's not fair to say he rinsed us. He's played as well as he could, yes there have been mistakes but that's not been intentional, and crucially he has kept his mouth shut through all of it. We offered him a stupid contract and hes no longer good enough for us but none of that was his fault; he held his end of the deal up as best he could.
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Thats the crucial part for you? haha. Give me 100m in the next 5 years and you won't hear a word from me either.
 
MadDogg said:
Not really. He's made a LOT of mistakes in cup knock-out games, including semis and finals. And while he wasn't the only reason we missed the top four in 18/19, he was the main one. Then another mistake knocked us out of the CL in the group stages a couple of seasons ago.
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We failed to win any of our last 5 league games in that season and you can hardly blame him for the Jose Mourinho managed start so to say he was the main reason to miss out on UCL is indeed laughable.
 
Pickle85 said:
Nonsense. If we didn't want to keep him then we shouldn't have offered him a contract, or we should have offered him a contract that reflected his diminished importance to the team instead of playing contractual bait and switch. He'll now leave on bad terms and someone that's given the club a decade of his career deserved better.
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That's exactly what we're doing. Not sure what the issue is here?

Pickle85 said:
As for your pearl clutching around him flirting with Madrid, his family live there, he's Spanish and they were among the best teams in the world. Players have left for far, far less in the past.

I find it so distasteful how many of our supposedly loyal fanbase are trying to back the way the club has handled this while denigrating DDG.
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This is quite an oxymoron. It's ok for players to flirt with other clubs & treat clubs bad but not clubs to hold firm on their decision because they think he's past it & incapable?
 
bringbackbebe said:
That's exactly what we're doing. Not sure what the issue is here?



This is quite an oxymoron. It's ok for players to flirt with other clubs & treat clubs bad but not clubs to hold firm on their decision because they think he's past it & incapable?
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The issue is that we gave him an offer on good faith then withdrew it and reneged. Do you not see the problem with that?

As for the second part, he flirted with Madrid but didn't leave. 'holding firm' on a decision is definitely not something we're doing, given that we offered a contract then took it away
 
OrcaFat said:
I thought we did offer him a contract on reduced terms and he turned it down. That was being reported at some point.

Looks like the two parties ended up here because they couldn’t agree on the terms. Does it have to be somebody’s fault?
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If your employer offered you one contract which you were ready to sign, then whipped it away and replaced it with a contract with far less favourable terms how would you feel? There's no getting away from the fact that we've behaved badly here.
 
TheGame said:
We failed to win any of our last 5 league games in that season and you can hardly blame him for the Jose Mourinho managed start so to say he was the main reason to miss out on UCL is indeed laughable.
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De Gea's final two months or so of that season was the worst form of his career. We were basically playing with one hand tied behind our back because of the amount of shockers he was letting in.

Just in those 5 games you mentioned he made three outright mistakes, another goal scored from his poor punch, and another that he probably should have saved. Go back a couple more games and Wolves winning goal was another one of those goals that only happens because De Gea actively avoids contact because he's scared of being hurt. He was also at fault for Arsenal's opener. So in the last 9 games of that season he was outright at fault for five goals and another two that he really should have done better. Seven goals in nine games; literally almost a goal per game. Or if you want to limit it just to the last five games, it was five goals in five. Right at the point that we had got ourselves back in a good position and were favourites to make top four.
 
Pickle85 said:
The issue is that we gave him an offer on good faith then withdrew it and reneged. Do you not see the problem with that?

As for the second part, he flirted with Madrid but didn't leave. 'holding firm' on a decision is definitely not something we're doing, given that we offered a contract then took it away
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It's not like we offered him the contract then immediately withdrew it. From all accounts it seems we offered him a contract months ago. He chose not to sign it until the very end of the season. We were well within our right to change our mind.
 
Didn't Van Der Sar sign for Fulham at about the same age De Gea is now? Going to a smaller club doesn't mean his career would be over. Sometimes with keepers it's just about the right club at the right time.
 
I think he's been wronged a little towards the end.. but he's acting like a bit of a petulant child on twitter with these emoji posts recently
 
Pickle85 said:
The issue is that we gave him an offer on good faith then withdrew it and reneged. Do you not see the problem with that?

As for the second part, he flirted with Madrid but didn't leave. 'holding firm' on a decision is definitely not something we're doing, given that we offered a contract then took it away
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Pickle85 said:
If your employer offered you one contract which you were ready to sign, then whipped it away and replaced it with a contract with far less favourable terms how would you feel? There's no getting away from the fact that we've behaved badly here.
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Are you sure this is what hapenned here?
From what I gather, we oferred him a contract (lower wage than currently, obviously) and he lingered (if he rejected then the offer is no longer on the table obviously).
In the meantime someone in the club came to a conclusion De Gea is done here and we should let him go. I'd imagine we also considered other options and maybe when Onana became available and willing to leave Inter, we decided to focus on him and I guess it makes sense to withdrawn offer for De Gea.

I am not sure if club did anything wrong here. I like that we are actually a bit ruthless with those contracts.


Mmm-Qatarian said:
Bit weird of De Gea to post an emoji of him trying to deal with a cross into the six yard box...

I'm sorry.
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:lol:
 
jesus i hate man united fans these days

hope ddg goes somewhere he is appreciated
 
Clearly he just watched The Greatest Showman for the first time, think thats pretty obvious.
 
We've always been a bit shit at dealing with players at the end of their contracts.

We've clearly strung him along in case we needed him. Fair argument that serves the club well but i'd still rather we'd sorted out goalkeeper and let him know he wasn't wanted months ago.
 
It's obviously not being handled well. But de Gea if he had any decent offers from other clubs would have left. He knows if he leaves United, he drops to an irrelevant league or a mid table club on less than 100k per week. So he is hoping we don't sign a goalkeeper.
 
Smores said:
We've always been a bit shit at dealing with players at the end of their contracts.

We've clearly strung him along in case we needed him. Fair argument that serves the club well but i'd still rather we'd sorted out goalkeeper and let him know he wasn't wanted months ago.
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Should we tell him to burn in hell too?
 
We don't owe these players anything. He had a contract, he couldn't agree and/or didn't deserve a new one, off you go son.

Make out like he's this legend of the club...how many trophies has he won? Also would have left during his peak years, but for a faulty fax machine
 
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