Just got in from work and seen the set piece last minute save. Any others?
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 43
- Clean sheets
- 13
- Goals
- 0
- Assists
- 0
- Yellow cards
- 0
He did make a good save from Sakho in that game though, at 2-1. It wouldn't be a stretch to include that and say he got us a draw. I would give him Arsenal and say he has won us 7 points this season.
Seriously just get the new deal sorted and pay him what he wants. 6 year deal on the same sort of money that Neuer is on should do the trick.
I'm telling you he isn't.
He wasn't great with some of his passing early on in the season. His distribution was poor. Also let in a poor goal against someone (remember the goal, not who scored) and wasn't great against MK Dons. Made up for it though.
Steady.
I can see how people think Courtois is better in general (although I don't) but certainly De Gea has been the better of the two so far this season and it's very difficult argue against that. He has saved us on numerous occasions this season, which Courtois hasn't done for Chelsea. There's no doubt about it that Courtois is overrated. People were hyping him up as one of the best goalkeepers in the world last season when most of them had only seen him playing for Athletico every now and then in Europe. For some reason it has taken until this season for non-United fans to realise how good De Gea is, yet non-Athletico/Chelsea fans have been raving about Courtois for a while now.
There's no way you can say Courtois' performances this season have bettered de Gea's, you'd be lying if you were and you know it.
I was not being serious when I said that. I can see why you lot would take De Gea over Courtois (I wouldn't, but there's not much in it, certainly not enough to argue about).
De Gea has made more spectacular saves, but that's not a fair way to compare keepers as Courtois has not been put in the same situation as him. Using that standard would lead you to the conclusion that he's better than Neuer too (which he clearly is not).
Stick a strong defence in front of de Gea and I'm sure he wouldn't have to produce spectacular saves as consistently as he does, that's for sure. I've watched a lot of Courtois the past season and a half, and I can see why he's rated as highly as he is, but right now de Gea is the better 'keeper, for a number of reasons. Just an opinion, and one I'm guessing the majority of RedCafe will agree with. Lets see how Courtois deals with being over worked, not that he ever will have to playing under Mourinho...
He's not overrated. He's either the second or third best keeper in the world depending on your perspective. He definitely is one of the best in the world. That's not hyping him up.
I'm not sure if you realise this, but he was voted in the team of the season two years ago which clearly shows that he has hardly been underrated.
Yeah, up until the Everton game some on here were doubting him and said he was doing poor. From that point onwards he's done great apart from one goal which might be same one you're thinking of.
Obviously, which is why it is hard to compare them.
Name them.
Again, obviously. That's hardly a convincing argument though. I'm sure the majority of TheShedEnd would say the opposite.
He's no Mignolet alright.
Shot stopping and reflexes, I think de Gea has produced world class and quite frankly stunning saves the past two and a half seasons. For me, there is no contest, de Gea is better in that regard.
Command of the area and aerial ability, now this was an area de Gea was weak, but we've seen massive progression. It's a non issue now, is he as good as Courtois? I dunno, but there isn't much between them in that area, if anything.
Communication, I'm not sure either 'keeper is all that vocal, so I wouldn't compare and contrast them there.
Essentially what I'm saying is that there isn't much between the two 'keepers, but what edges it for de Gea is his ability to produce world class and match winning saves so consistently, even in games he hasn't been called upon 'til the dying seconds. Courtois, in the season and a half I've watched him, has yet to replicate de Gea's match winning performances to that level.
Mignolet. De Ge's distribution was superb. 17/17 passes completed I think. Has worked on that and coming off his line. Constantly improving.
DDG is clearly one of the best but he's had to grow into a more commanding presence as he's bulked up since joining us. Courtois and Neuer are both much bigger naturally so I think they've been able to rely more on their size while DDG had to adjust.
Imo, DDG has the best reflexes, Neuer the best reader of the game, and Courtois in the middle on both. Also, I'd say DDG's got an advantage in that he's playing his 4th PL season, which is surely more physical than La Liga or Bundesliga. That was always supposed to be the big test for him - well, he's passing it spectacularly. Will be interesting to see Courtois dealing with the PL wear and tear. No midwinter break, harsher conditions than Spain - don't expect him to wobble much but it's still to be seen.
Imo, DDG has the best reflexes, Neuer the best reader of the game, and Courtois in the middle on both. Also, I'd say DDG's got an advantage in that he's playing his 4th PL season, which is surely more physical than La Liga or Bundesliga. That was always supposed to be the big test for him - well, he's passing it spectacularly. Will be interesting to see Courtois dealing with the PL wear and tear. No midwinter break, harsher conditions than Spain - don't expect him to wobble much but it's still to be seen.
Courtois, for me, is a consistent and steadfast 'keeper, so I don't think he'll have any issues over the coming months. de Gea, however, will continue to produce moments of absolute brilliance.
Because he's in a situation where he has to which is a damning indictment on your defence.
I'm not denying he is one of the best in the world. If you ask football fans (outside of United fans) to list the top 5 keepers in the world, the vast, vast majority would go with 1) Neuer and 2) Courtois. Obviously Neuer is the best goalkeeper in the world and that isn't even up for debate. I just don't see why Courtois is considered by most to be the best of the rest. Just yesterday FFT did a list of the Top 100 players in the world. In terms of goalkeepers there were 6 on the list: 6) Lloris, 5) De Gea, 4) Navas, 3) Buffon, 2) Courtois and 1) Neuer. It was an awful list in general but again it had Courtois as comfortably the 2nd best goalkeeper in the world with De Gea stuck behind Navas and Buffon!
I mean if you look at the performances of both De Gea and Courtois over the last few seasons there is clearly very little between the two, so how come Courtois is always considered to be in the top 3 of goalkeepers in the world yet De Gea isn't? The answer? Courtois is overrated. Of course I realise this. However, I'm not sure if you realise this but that team was voted for by the footballers of the Premier League. When I said he is underrated I was referring to fans of other clubs and not players. I'm sure his peers realise he is a world class player at this considering he has probably cost most of them a win bonus or two along the way in his short PL career.
He didn't have to lift a finger versus Stoke 'til the dying seconds, and produced brilliant saves. I've yet to see Courtois save points for Chelsea... And I've yet to see Mignolet save anything!
Such wit.
Damning indictment on your 'keeper.
We would be around midtable at this point if it weren't for him. Our best player this season. Just extend his contract FFS.
it is great to know he is widely known as a top 5 keeper now. only a matter of time before he is a definite top 3.
I couldn't name three better 'keepers right now, could you?
He is definitely top three.
Not sure I'd class the save at the end as "brilliant", he'd be absolutely furious (as would any other good goalkeeper) with himself if he hadn't saved it.
Distribution was much better today though and had absolutely no chance with the goal. Hopefully we can keep giving him these straightforward games with little to do, beats the hell out of him having to play out of his skin.
Distribution was much better today though and had absolutely no chance with the goal. Hopefully we can keep giving him these straightforward games with little to do, beats the hell out of him having to play out of his skin.
Best keeper in the league for me and it's down to him being a true match winner.
No other keeper has come close to winning as many points for their side as De Gea has. Sure you might argue they haven't had to, but the fact is De Gea has, and you can't take that away from him.
No other keeper has come close to winning as many points for their side as De Gea has. Sure you might argue they haven't had to, but the fact is De Gea has, and you can't take that away from him.
That's not even an argument. Every goalkeeper makes a save because he has to. If you looked up Schmeichel or VDS' best saves, I'm sure you'd also find a host of defensive errors. It doesn't matter though in terms of what the goalkeeper has produced though, does it?
Your gif lives on.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...lkeeper-s-performance-against-Stoke-City.html
Every good performance is noted by Real Madrid.....
One of the best GKs in the world right now without doubt. Only Neuer is marginally better.
Why his average rating is only 6.6?
if this is FM then i'm sure he is around 8.00 to 8.50
How many points has he won us by himself this season? It's quite ridiculous how good he's becoming.
Absolute world class goalkeeper.
Needs that new contract ASAP.
Needs that new contract ASAP.
Just alluding to the fact that some might argue Courtois is better but hasn't had the same "chances" to prove he's on the same-level so to speak, because he's been playing in front of a very settled organized back 4 (that's protected by 2 holding midfielders). For me, De Gea is simply better because we can only judge what we see eh