David de Gea | 2011-14 Performances

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Orton said:
Maybe it's because regardless of how he's been playing lately people like you just cannot give him the tiniest bit of praise, every good thing he does, you look to pick a fault with something else that he couldn't do much about. There's a reason he was player of the month in february, but i guess that goes unnoticed too.
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Maybe because some of us don't feel the need to jizz all over every performance. If he has a good performance as I said in my first post then I'll admit that ... he wasn't brilliant, he didn't make any real mistakes ... he did well. No different for any other player.

If I was being picky, and I already said I didn't think he'd have got it anyway, I thought he initially misjudged the Defoe shot.
 
Makki said:
That's not really true though. When you come from an inside left position towards the centre you have to get around the ball to shoot towards the side you came inside from if you're right footed.
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Yes.
Makki said:
The more natural movement would be to put your laces through it, giving it an outside spin towards the far corner.
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Yes, if you're still more inside left, but when you're now central you have to accentuate the shot or the ball goes wide.

Makki said:
De Gea's initial step towards his left shows that Defoe was moving inwards from the left which means that the more expected shot would've been to De Gea's let (Defoe's right).
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Yes, but I'll repeat, not at the speed Defoe was running, and not when centrally placed.

He took it early and drove it with the front & left of his foot; for a right footer, that shot is going to the keeper's right most of the time I'd say.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Now watch Pondlife spend page after page trying to convince anyone who will listen that De Gea could have done better for the goal, without typing a single word about the top class save from the deflection off Saha.

That's the way he rolls.
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Not to mention continuously ignoring the fact that DDG couldn't see through Rio, who isn't invisible.
 
I don't think anyone could seriously believe DDG was at fault for Defoe's goal in any way shape or form... It's just a clutching at straws thing I imagine.
 
Annihilate Now! said:
I don't think anyone could seriously believe DDG was at fault for Defoe's goal in any way shape or form... It's just a clutching at straws thing I imagine.
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According to goldenballs he couldn't have saved it, but he wanted him to dive at it after it had already went past him so that it looked like he made an effort. Apparently..
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Now watch Pondlife spend page after page trying to convince anyone who will listen that De Gea could have done better for the goal, without typing a single word about the top class save from the deflection off Saha.

That's the way he rolls.
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Keepers make saves like that every week all over the place. Did you see the save that Cardiff boy made off Gerrard ... now that was something to blow your load over. Its just the way some on here go way way over the top.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
Keepers make saves like that every week all over the place. Did you see the save that Cardiff boy made off Gerrard ... now that was something to blow your load over. Its just the way some on here go way way over the top.
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De Gea is awesome, only has one weekness or thing that needs to really get improvement and thats crosses/commanding. He's here now at 21 way before some of our legendary keepers were. Hopefully he carries on his great young career in football.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
He took it early and drove it with the front & left of his foot; for a right footer, that shot is going to the keeper's right most of the time I'd say.
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Which was more unexpected..

When you're running with the ball ahead of you to the right, it's more natural to drive through the ball instead of getting around the ball. If I had any artistic sense I would've drawn it up for you in paint, but just poke the ball in front of you to the right and see how awkward it is to get around the ball and shoot back towards the left compared to driving through it with your laces and getting an outside spin on the ball.

If you saw Drenthe's goal for Everton yesterday you'll know exactly what I mean as that was the more natural shot than Defoe's.
 
Makki said:
Which was more unexpected..

When you're running with the ball ahead of you to the right, it's more natural to drive through the ball instead of getting around the ball. If I had any artistic sense I would've drawn it up for you in paint, but just poke the ball in front of you to the right and see how awkward it is to get around the ball and shoot back towards the left compared to driving through it with your laces and getting an outside spin on the ball.

If you saw Drenthe's goal for Everton yesterday you'll know exactly what I mean as that was the more natural shot than Defoe's.
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I didn't see Drenthe's goal ... well that's not true, I believe I did but I don't remember it particularly in this context.

What I will say is that most of those shots that Defoe takes are hooked ... he hit it cleanly, similarly to how Ronaldo hits or tries to hit FKs.

I think we'll have to disagree but for me, as a right footer, most of the time, under those circumstances (running and centrally) the ball goes to the keepers right.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
I didn't see Drenthe's goal ... well that's not true, I believe I did but I don't remember it particularly in this context.

What I will say is that most of those shots that Defoe takes are hooked ... he hit it cleanly, similarly to how Ronaldo hits or tries to hit FKs.

I think we'll have to disagree but for me, as a right footer, most of the time, under those circumstances (running and centrally) the ball goes to the keepers right.
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QPR Everton Highlights Video 3/3/2012 (1 - 1) Goals: Zamora, Drenthe

There it is (2:20). Pokes the ball in front of himself to the left, drives through it with his left foot giving it an outward spin into the far corner. That for me was the expected shot and was probably what De Gea expected which wrong-footed him.
 
Makki said:
QPR Everton Highlights Video 3/3/2012 (1 - 1) Goals: Zamora, Drenthe

There it is (2:20). Pokes the ball in front of himself to the left, drives through it with his left foot giving it an outward spin into the far corner. That for me was the expected shot and was probably what De Gea expected which wrong-footed him.
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Thanks for providing that ... unfortunately i-net speeds prevent me from viewing streaming video.:mad: I'll look out for it on football show highlights.
 
I don't think he could have done much with the goal. He couldn't see a thing. However the save he made in the first half after it deflected off Saha was brilliant. It was a fantastic reaction save and he's getting better every week.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
Some of you obviously don't watch much football. Do you think all keepers are just plodders that only save dribblers. :lol:

Of the games I saw this weekend Schezny, Hart, Bogdan and Krul pulled off similar if not arguably better saves.
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I couldn't give less of a feck about those keepers.

Da gea is a great shot stopped. Absolutely magnificent. Thank feck we've got him in net, else we wouldnt be where we are this season.

Our keeping is sorted for 10 years.
 
Some of you don't watch much football, do you think every goal is a tap in?

I've seen sigurdson, van persie and Keita score better goals than Young.
 
De Gea gave us the platform to win the game yesterday with two good saves. I am not sure why there are still doubters here about his performance. Do we have any keeper that we would rather have than him ?
 
MaroonPondlife said:
Some of you obviously don't watch much football. Do you think all keepers are just plodders that only save dribblers. :lol:

Of the games I saw this weekend Schezny, Hart, Bogdan and Krul pulled off similar if not arguably better saves.
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MaroonPondlife said:
Don't you just hate arseholes that come out and jump all over posters who they don't rate (because they have the temerity to have a different opinion).:lol:pathetic.:nono:

First game I've seen since the Liverpool match.
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Heh.
 
Very pleasing the recent praise he's been receiving in the media but lets be honest he should have never been dropped in the first place, yes he had a shaky game against Blackburn but lets not forget he was rested for the two previous games before that and it was hardly our first choice defence that day either

Despite the odd mistake here and there outside of the Blackburn game he's been more good than bad
 
Keepers are supposed to have more good games than bad ones. Good keepers have a consistent level of performance with peaks every few games. There isnt much room for the form to dip.

The recent performances dont make up for his mistakes, in that, if he repeats the mistakes and goes on another good run like he is on at the moment, its no good.

Obviously the hope has to be the mistakes were something he has learnt from and we are now getting to see him at his usual settled self. If that is the case, then we have a very promising keeper.

And I dont think he couldve done much for the goal.. Another conceded from outside the box for those keeping count.
 
I thought he was quality. He's starting to transmit confidence to his team mates with his recent performances.

Again I have to say that the accuracy from his kicking is really something else. I watched him closely and the amount of times he found his man right by the touchline was impressive. You can rarely fault him for his distribution with his feet.
 
It appears his communication has improved as well.

As the United staff build him up, his ability to command the area and deal with crosses will improve too. I've already seen signs of this happening, but we know it's something he will continue to work on. From interviews the lad seems determined and driven so improvement will come.
That said, I reckon his performances this last month have been outstanding. I can only imagine that pondlife must sit there seething whilst images of De Gea float around his mind tormenting him. I dont think he'll ever accept him as a top class goalkeeper, but he'll be in a minority.
 
RedNome said:
Heh.
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United game.

Just today if you're interested ... NE derby, Rome derby (best game of the day), Spurs-United & Madrid-Espanyol.

Yesterday the games from Anfield, a bit of the Leverkusen game, from CoMS, and some of the Palermo-Milan game. Decided to pass on the Barce match in favour of some air, and a near frozen right foot.

A typical weekend for me ... waaay too much football to be considered healthy. My name is MaroonPondlife and I'm an addict.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
Keepers make saves like that every week all over the place. Did you see the save that Cardiff boy made off Gerrard ... now that was something to blow your load over. Its just the way some on here go way way over the top.
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'that Cardiff boy' is former United Keeper Tom Heaton, it was a good save from a penalty kick with nothing to lose in terms of his reputation so he could take a guess and go for a side.. not react quickly to a deflection that if you feck it up shitheads will act all smug and say 'knew he was shit all along.'

Don't know why I'm replying, you are so dogmatic in your views there is really no point.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
United game.

Just today if you're interested ... NE derby, Rome derby (best game of the day), Spurs-United & Madrid-Espanyol.

Yesterday the games from Anfield, a bit of the Leverkusen game, from CoMS, and some of the Palermo-Milan game. Decided to pass on the Barce match in favour of some air, and a near frozen right foot.

A typical weekend for me ... waaay too much football to be considered healthy. My name is MaroonPondlife and I'm an addict.
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Watching football on television doesn't exactly make you an expert.
 
Drainy said:
'that Cardiff boy' is former United Keeper Tom Heaton, it was a good save from a penalty kick with nothing to lose in terms of his reputation so he could take a guess and go for a side.. not react quickly to a deflection that if you feck it up shitheads will act all smug and say 'knew he was shit all along.'

Don't know why I'm replying, you are so dogmatic in your views there is really no point.
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It was hardly your standard save, the Heaton one ... it was a case of exceedingly quick (and strong) hands. For what it was it was outstanding ... and I'm quoting (pretty much) 'You'll nay see a better penalty save this year'.

The point is that there are lots of good and even great saves made every week. David de Gea has had some good saves and a few great ones ... he's had some good games and he's had some poor ones.

Most of today's keepers are good shot stoppers ... how many times have you heard of a keeper that was good at crosses and kicking but you know, 'he couldn't save a shot mind'.:rolleyes:

Anyway, this has never been in any way an anti-de Gea agenda but rather a ''Lets keep all this in perspective folks' case.:D
 
MaroonPondlife said:
It was hardly your standard save, the Heaton one ... it was a case of exceedingly quick (and strong) hands. For what it was it was outstanding ... and I'm quoting (pretty much) 'You'll nay see a better penalty save this year'.

The point is that there are lots of good and even great saves made every week. David de Gea has had some good saves and a few great ones ... he's had some good games and he's had some poor ones.

Most of today's keepers are good shot stoppers ... hom many times have you heard of a keeper that was good at crosses and kicking but you know, 'he couldn't save a shot mind'.:rolleyes:

Anyway, this has never been in any way an anti-de Gea agenda but rather a ''Lets keep all this in perspective folks'.:D
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Your post count/content in this thread betray you.
 
De gea saved a very similar shot against norwich, only difference was he actually saw the flight of the ball before it was next to him.

Defoes shot was clever because he used ferdinand as a guard, and it had such pace and tucked right into the corner it was very hard to save.

De gea saved plenty of good chances through the game which allowed us to open up a 3 goal lead, which is all that we can ask.

You say you watch "ALOT" of football and alot of goalkeepers, and yes while tim krul and people like that are good goalkeepers, they are also alot older and more experienced.

De gea is 21 years old dont forget, and the lad is only going to get better and better with every game and year he plays.

He had an early wobble, but i think now that has happened nothing can put him down anymore, hes been slated so bad that everything just looks up from now on.
 
MaroonPondlife said:
Most of today's keepers are good shot stoppers ... how many times have you heard of a keeper that was good at crosses and kicking but you know, 'he couldn't save a shot mind'.:rolleyes:
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As Andy Townsend once said about Scott Carson: I'm not saying he's a poor goalkeeper, but every goal he lets in seems to be a soft one.

Hennessey is another one who for me tends to concede soft goals from shots.

Of course most keepers are good shot stoppers, that's the main attribute.. It'd be like an outfield player being poor at kicking the ball. But you don't seem to (want to) recognise that De Gea is among the very best at doing that. You're deliberately trying to belittle him by saying "all keepers are good shot stoppers, so fecking what?", and that to people looks like you have an anti-De Gea agenda.
 
Makki said:
As Andy Townsend once said about Scott Carson: I'm not saying he's a poor goalkeeper, but every goal he lets in seems to be a soft one.

Hennessey is another one who for me tends to concede soft goals from shots.

Of course most keepers are good shot stoppers, that's the main attribute.. It'd be like an outfield player being poor at kicking the ball. But you don't seem to (want to) recognise that De Gea is among the very best at doing that. You're deliberately trying to belittle him by saying "all keepers are good shot stoppers, so fecking what?", and that to people looks like you have an anti-De Gea agenda.
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Liverpool paid 20 million for Stewart Downing and 35 million for Andy Carroll. Just saying.
 
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