Great alternative to Grealish. Always wanted him.
But if he's alternative to Sancho, then we are fecked.
But if he's alternative to Sancho, then we are fecked.
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You mean Brooks's last season and Grealish this season? Yes the stats are not that far off, but Grealish offers more in terms of dribbling and ball carrying which is a very rare skill. I also like Brooks but feel Grealish would have much bigger impact since I feel he won't be overwhelmed by the occasion unlike Brooks.
Good signing as a squad option. Has a lot of quality
He honestly wasnt that good after returning from his injury for the last couple of games of the season. Which of course you might expect from someone out so long, but the point is theres no guarantees he'll be back to his best. Also he's extremely light weight. But he is a clever passer and can score a goal
I said in the other Brooks thread that he'd be my favoured alternative to Sancho. He's not as good as Sancho but he's a good player in his own right and is the type of player who you'd want in our rotation instead of the likes of Lingard.
We still could have done with Sancho though, whilst Brooks is a good talent, Sancho is a special talent that would have elevated us massively.
We still could have done with Sancho though, whilst Brooks is a good talent, Sancho is a special talent that would have elevated us massively.
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The way I see it they’ve been relegated and he’s coming off the back of 11 months out.
Ake played the full season and is entering his peak years.
This is the kind of signing you make for £20m not £40m otherwise you may as well spend a bit more on a more guaranteed success.
I actually agree with you on this. If we were selling someone off the back of an injury we’d be lucky to get £10m but remember we pay higher wages and would be selling to a smaller club.
Bournemouth rushed him back into action for obvious reasons, but he didn't have match sharpness hence a drop in performance. Which is understandable after being out for 11 months.
Brooks is also a lot better off the ball and great at pressing (unlike Grealish).
Not sure whats the basis of saying he will be overwhelmed..
He drifts to center too much and looks much better there than at the right wing.
Didn't show enough workrate and seemed to slow down after injury. Though possibly he wasn't fit enough and will regain his sharpness.
Funnily enough he reminds me of Mata a lot. Technically sound, good passer with goalscoring abilities, but too lightweight and lacks trickery and extra bit of pace to dribble past his opponents.
Though he would be decent squad option for reasonable fee and if he could stay fit.
Didn't show enough workrate and seemed to slow down after injury. Though possibly he wasn't fit enough and will regain his sharpness.
Funnily enough he reminds me of Mata a lot. Technically sound, good passer with goalscoring abilities, but too lightweight and lacks trickery and extra bit of pace to dribble past his opponents.
Though he would be decent squad option for reasonable fee and if he could stay fit.
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Brooks is invisible for too often. He actually reminds me of Lingard. He's also coming off a massive injury. I'd guess he's be cheapish but it would be a massive come down of a signing.
Maybe overwhelmed is a bit much, but I definitely think Grealish would adapt faster, coming from a big club like Aston Villa and being captain from young age. Off the ball and pressing is something we need to work as a team, individuals and what they play in other teams imo mean very little in a new set up. Whoever we bring in has to work in the idea of the coach.
Wouldn't be against this transfer if the price was decent. However with Ake going for 41m there's no way Brooks goes for anything less than 30 to 35m. It's a lot of money for a bench player when we are cash strapped as it is.
I like the player but think we could do more with the money personally.
Unless he's near the end of his contract and going cheap I think we should look elsewhere. Van De Beek is being touted to go for 35 to 40m Euros to Barca. That shows there is value in the market for ready made quality.
I like the player but think we could do more with the money personally.
Unless he's near the end of his contract and going cheap I think we should look elsewhere. Van De Beek is being touted to go for 35 to 40m Euros to Barca. That shows there is value in the market for ready made quality.
We would have both Wales wingers who together have the combined talent of Gigg's right toe. Still I like Brooks. Yeah get Sarr, Grealish etc. But its down to price. If Brooks is 20/30and Sarr 50 and Grealish 70 then Brooks is the only one we can afford. Even if we dont get Sancho the money would be best spent elsewhere. And you have to look at him as a squad option with a view of getting a first choice RW next season - if Sancho falls through.
20 mil no more. Would be a good squad player but I just don’t think he’d have it in him to be a first team player for United. We do need to improve the quality in the squad overall, so if the price is right sign him up.
Equally, if not more important imo.
Our first 11 is good, our squad isn't. We need 2/3 starters but we need probably 5/6 in total
Brooks is a player I like,was as good as maddison in 18/19,didn't get as much hype because he represents Wales and not England, would be a good signing for the right price, hopely we'll land 3 players to this group
He wouldn't loose pace, but he probably would be slower as he's not played at capacity for so long, he'd just have to build back up again. Depending on the surgery you may not even be able to put weight on it for a long time and the rehabilitation would be extremely slow, which isn't conducive to keeping muscle mass. The only issue for us would be if the surgery was a success or was just a band aid.
The way you improve your depth is adding first XI quality players and let them fight it out for the starting spot. Even though I'm a big fan of Brooks, he wouldn't improve the first XI straight away but could in the future.
This is why a summer of Sancho, Grealish and a top CB would've taken us a step in the right direction and would've been a dream windown. But thats all it is, a dream, realistically we don't have £150-200m to spend this summer.
This is why a summer of Sancho, Grealish and a top CB would've taken us a step in the right direction and would've been a dream windown. But thats all it is, a dream, realistically we don't have £150-200m to spend this summer.
Thought we were improving the squad.....which means if someone comes into the starting 11, there's not a huge drop off. The 'one for the future', he might but Ole won't unless we get proven quality and not cause they look it in another team's jersey.....
As a squad option, he's better than bringing in Andreas/Lingard/Mata. For the right price I'd be all for it.
Geez, that music is shite!
Exactly. Our most ambitious window was probably Nani and Anderson - two young players playing in portugal, Tevez on loan - proven for 1 season with West Ham and Hargreaves who was for some reason considered a superstar and lots of posters here were talking about him being an upgrade to Carrick.
Sancho would be like 3.5x Hargreaves alone. Grealish would be like Tevez, but not on loan and instead a permanent transfer which is much bigger.
Very true. If we could buy him with money we get from Andreas and Lingard leaving it would make sense
Not really. I think Greenwood has the tools the play up front, too, so we could see him get more time there once Ighalo goes. We've got too many "not good enough" players on the bench right now.
AMC - Bruno, New AMC/Brooks possibly
AML - Rashford, James
AMR - Sancho, Greenwood, Brooks
ST - Martial, Ighalo, Greenwoord
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I thought the idea was to improve the squad, I'm not sure Brooks does that. We are trying to close the gap on Liverpool and City. I'm sure both teams will be quaking in their boots with the signing of Brooks.
I agree with this, he s more of. Grealish alternative rather than a Sancho alternative
The "good" thing about his performances since the return from injury is his price should be lowered. We can get him for less than his actual value when he's in good form.
Get him!
Long term Mata's replacement - a very good squad player, playmaker type.
Get him!
Long term Mata's replacement - a very good squad player, playmaker type.
Dwight McNeil from Burnley is a better player, I kid you not and far younger I suppose.
Because our squad depth is poor, so that's the idea..
Brooks as a Grealish replacement makes sense. He would be an improvement on our current bench options for those positions. Could be a decent move if the price is right.
After missing an entire year due to injury, Brooks should be considered Championship level. In comparison, promoted WBA are about to finalize the signing of Matheus Pereira, aged 24, for €10m after a good season on loan from Sporting Lisbon after he got 8 goals plus 16 assists for them in the Championship.
That's the kind of deal we should be looking at for Brooks. 1 year loan with an option to buy for €10m if his appearances for us trigger the buy clause.
That's the kind of deal we should be looking at for Brooks. 1 year loan with an option to buy for €10m if his appearances for us trigger the buy clause.
A good player, but his injury situation is a worry. If he is a cheap punt, then fine but anything more than 15m and I would stay clear.
He is one of the good players that could be got for cheap from the relegated clubs.
He is one of the good players that could be got for cheap from the relegated clubs.
That’s probably what opposing fans said when Liverpool signed Robertson.
Maybe we should just continue to buy expensive overhyped players for £50m on massive wages. Worked really well post Fergie.
All of this is still coming from Sport Witness? Hardly the most reliable source, is it?
Who cares who is quaking in their boots, we have to make sensible decisions that will improve our squad. We need first team improvements and also squad improvements.
Leave Fred out of this.
I'm thinking this too, they're not known for breaking stories are they?
As a statement signing, the statement would be "We're happy to compete for top 4 each year and keep things ticking over."
People acting like he's going to cost £10m. They sold Ake for £41m ffs!
He's good too and im surprised we arent linked with him as well. I figured we would be this summer. But he plays on the left as a normal winger while Brooks plays on the right coming inside and has also been used centrally