David Alaba....

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Bazi said:
I have to say I'm not too sad about the prospect of not having to pay David Alaba up to 125M € to play LCB for the next five seasons.

He will turn 29 years next summer and will have played 13 years for our club. Go get your bag of money David and have a successful remaining career.
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Think he would get more interest from other clubs if he wasn't after such mental wages
 
SinNombre said:
Sell him this week, or let him go on a free next summer?
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He is going to stay I think. We can't afford to lose him and Thiago in one summer without big reinforcement, but more importantly no one is going to pay a transfer fee and meet his wage demands.

If he told us about his intentions 3 months ago we could have signed Upamecano, but now it's too late for that so we're going to leave him on a free transfer next year and I'm fine with that.
 


Seems like that's the end of it. Now to sell him for as much as we can in the winter. He's up for grabs, only 20m/year, it's a steal! /s
 
Man. City seems very obvious given they need an LB and he can also fill in central midfield when required.
 
Alaba is no doubt a good player to have but that's not who we need. We should try and get a specialist LCB and CDM. We keep cutting corners and horseshoeing players in positions that's not really their forte.
 
Ali Dia said:
I bet he would still do a better job at DM than anyone we’ve currently got.
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No he isn´t. He has been shit every time he played CM for austria. Even worse at Bayern.
 
Barca can't afford him and Real have Mendy+Marcelo. So PSG? City? Inter?
 
alaba wants a 5 year deal with €25m a year.
Also Pini Zahavi wants a €20m agent sign on fee and another €15m sign on fee for the player.
That would be all in all €160m for 5 years for a (end of this season) 29 year old defender.

He will leave for sure, cant see Bayern agree to those conditions.

Also he was pissed that he was not allowed to play midfield.
 
archiebald said:
Alphonso Davies's ceiling is just too damn high. Reminds me of a young Gareth Bale/Marcelo.
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I don't think Flick sees Alaba as a LB (anymore). He spent the last season playing at CB and I don't suppose this will change as Alaba did very good. Under Flick it has been either Davies or Hernandez playing at LB.
 
beingshe7don said:
Alaba is no doubt a good player to have but that's not who we need. We should try and get a specialist LCB and CDM. We keep cutting corners and horseshoeing players in positions that's not really their forte.
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He‘s good anywhere he plays, he’s an exceptional midfielder and defender, it’s not a case of shoehorning him anywhere. If United were in for him he’d be an upgrade on any of our current players in the areas of need.
 
Paula said:
alaba wants a 5 year deal with €25m a year.
Also Pini Zahavi wants a €20m agent sign on fee and another €15m sign on fee for the player.
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I just can't get my head around the greed of some of these players and their agents.
Alaba has been a top player for a decade he must be a multi-multi millionaire, his family would be living in luxury for generations to come, and yet he would still leave a great club such as Bayern for even more money...
If he announced that he wanted a new challenge, or a new experience I'd completely understand that, but I just shake my head when I hear of these players wanting even more money, as though £15 Million per year is peanuts.
 
Red_toad said:
He‘s good anywhere he plays, he’s an exceptional midfielder and defender, it’s not a case of shoehorning him anywhere. If United were in for him he’d be an upgrade on any of our current players in the areas of need.
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I am still astonished by that myth. Why do you (and others) see him as a great/exceptional midfielder? He has basically never played that position at Bayern. Granted, i don’t watch the Austrian national team.
 
He can feck off right away considering these numbers. It seems obvious to me that he's not worth it and I certainly hope he doesn't end up at United. And I'm pretty sure he won't, which is great. He kind of fecked himself.
 
Well, no club will pay him that much. I think Juve pay sign-on bonuses through insane wages, PSG had to resign Kurzawa and Florenzi on loanand City will probably focus on a big-name striker. I think Alaba will get 50-60% of what he's asking.
 
GhastlyHun said:
What a weird end to his glorious Bayern time.
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I honestly don't think we'd miss him too much as a starter. Alaba hasn't been impressive for quite a long time and while he rightfully gets plaudits for his ball playing and all round ability as a defensive Player, he just isnt a great CB. He's also not a great CM, at least not starter quality. That leaves LB and we got Davies and Hernandez for that.

If he fancies a new challenge and thinks he should earn Lewy-levels of money, I say: go for it
 
Acrobat7 said:
I am still astonished by that myth. Why do you (and others) see him as a great/exceptional midfielder? He has basically never played that position at Bayern. Granted, i don’t watch the Austrian national team.
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I do watch Austria and he has been very meh whenever he played in central midfield.
 
i guess he will end up at city or psg, no one else will pay more than bayern offered i guess. especially not during the corona criesis.
Hope he does not sign for united for a shitload of money
 
Twins said:
I do watch Austria and he has been very meh whenever he played in central midfield.
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I watch quite a bit of Austria too and he's almost always just mediocre, but it seems like he still got this idea in his head that Real, Barca and co. are just waiting for the opportunity to use him there. If he wants to play midfield, he has to go to a below-top-club.
 
What sort of money per week is he after then?

I think he makes a lot of sense for us for his versatility in multiple positions, same positions we happen to be weak in.
 
Piratesoup said:
I watch quite a bit of Austria too and he's almost always just mediocre, but it seems like he still got this idea in his head that Real, Barca and co. are just waiting for the opportunity to use him there. If he wants to play midfield, he has to go to a below-top-club.
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Yeah I`m very surprised how he still has this flawed self-assessment of his midfield abilites. Every football follwing Austrian I know has not been convinced at all of his midfield performances, they all prefer to play him as an aggressiv-offensive LB.
If he expects a commitment from his future club to get plenty of CM minutes as well as a hugh salary, he`s in for a long wait.
 
Piratesoup said:
I watch quite a bit of Austria too and he's almost always just mediocre, but it seems like he still got this idea in his head that Real, Barca and co. are just waiting for the opportunity to use him there. If he wants to play midfield, he has to go to a below-top-club.
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Did he say that again recently? Haven't followed the saga.
 
RUCK4444 said:
What sort of money per week is he after then?

I think he makes a lot of sense for us for his versatility in multiple positions, same positions we happen to be weak in.
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It's unclear. Media leaks suggest that he wants something in the vicinity of 20+ million euros a year, which would see him on par or even ahead of Lewandowski, Neuer and Müller, with a huge loyalty bonus and a couple of millions for his new agent Pini Zahavi on top. Reportedly, his camp argues that since Alaba never cost a single euro in transfer money, he's entitled to a massive pay rise.
Alaba claims these figures that got leaked to the press are bullshit, so make of it what you will.

Bayern reportedly offered 11 Euros + up to 6 million in bonuses for 5 years, Alaba would be 34 by the end of that contract. Very fair offer in my opinion, given that he hasn't been world class for a while and stagnated quite a bit over the last 3 or 4 years.

Alaba also was upset that Bayern took too long to start the negotiations. He claims the club made its first offer a year ago, bevore corona, so he won't allow that excuse for a reduced salary. He fails to mention that a year ago his overall level of play was far removed from being worth 10+ million. Then he spouted the usual emotionalized "I only want respect and appreciation" bullshit to seem less greedy. It's been a shitshow.

He is versatile as feck and it's difficult to replace a player like him because in a pinch he can slot in nearly anywhere, but if he demands more than 17 mil a year he's being deluded. He hasn't played like a world class LB recently, isn't a top CB and just straight up too bad to start in midfield. I'd like for him to stay because he is homegrown and strengthens any squad, but I won't shed tears if he leaves.

Synco said:
Did he say that again recently? Haven't followed the saga.
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It's been a smouldering issue for years. Reports and rumors indicate that Alaba is miffed because he was promised to play more midfield when he signed his last extension and that, if multiple top clubs offer him a contract, he'd favor the club that would promise him a midfield role.
Again, take everything with a grain of salt, but he's never made it a secret over the course of his career that he fancies himself a midfielder rather than a defender.
 
Media reports something around 390.000€ which is ~ 350.000£
He's just not good enough to demand such wages. In fact, he's been quite average with some horrible individual mistakes mixed in in the last 6 months.
Worst part is are the extra fees his party is demanding. 15 million € just for Zahavi, contract extension bonus etc. pp.
 
Piratesoup said:
It's been a smouldering issue for years. Reports and rumors indicate that Alaba is miffed because he was promised to play more midfield when he signed his last extension and that, if multiple top clubs offer him a contract, he'd favor the club that would promise him a midfield role.
Again, take everything with a grain of salt, but he's never made it a secret over the course of his career that he fancies himself a midfielder rather than a defender.
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I know he wanted that for many years, the question was only how solid the indications are that it's still a driving factor in his decisions.
 
Synco said:
I know he wanted that for many years, the question was only how solid the indications are that it's still a driving factor in his decisions.
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Media says he's kind of offended by Bayern officials who seem to have promised some kind of midfield position to him to take over but have not delivered. Pretty believable considering he's been demanding to be played there his whole carreer.
 
Why on earth would we want that guy here?

Not for these conditions (€20 million - €25 million per year).

He's a very good LB and solid CB, but not a true difference maker as a defender like VVD or Ramos for example. Heck, he's actually quite error-prone defensively. His best trait is his ability to build up from the back, but that alone doesn't warrant such insane wages.

Not to mention that he's reportedly been throwing hissy-fits, because Bayern wouldn't let him play as CM, his favorite position. There is no way we would let him play there though. Not only do we have good midfielders, Alaba also hasn't even played that position on club-level and only plays very mediocre as a CM for Austria.

RUCK4444 said:
What sort of money per week is he after then?
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He basically wants something in the range of ₤350k - ₤450k per week (plus a huge signing bonus for him and his agent). Truly a bargain ...

Red_toad said:
He‘s good anywhere he plays, he’s an exceptional midfielder and defender, it’s not a case of shoehorning him anywhere. If United were in for him he’d be an upgrade on any of our current players in the areas of need.
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Except that he isn't. He has never really played there for Bayern and he's just mediocre at best as a CM for Austria.
 
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Rektsanwalt said:
Media says he's kind of offended by Bayern officials who seem to have promised some kind of midfield position to him to take over but have not delivered. Pretty believable considering he's been demanding to be played there his whole carreer.
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Indeed surprising, if true. Never had the impression he can do it there at top level. The outcome of this saga will be interesting.
 
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Those wage demands are crazy, if they were significantly lower I'd love him as a DM and additional CB cover.
 
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