Darren Bent

We are signing a 20 million pound lead the line forward whether you like it or not and that player won't be Bent. Bent will only be signed if we sell Saha. Only as Saha's replacement. Because if Saha leaves we will still have only 1 lead the line striker if we sign Ruud's big name replacement. So we would still need another center forward and don't tell me Smith is such. Because he has never been and will never be a top class lead the line forward...
Smiths a perfectly fine player to sit on the bench
 
Smiths a perfectly fine player to sit on the bench
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about when our main lead the line forward and Rooney are rested. Smith is not a good alternative. playing him there is like playing Rooney up top. A lousy idea most of the time. He can a job there but he isn't ideal in the position. He is far more effective behind or alongside one in a 4-4-2. Not up top on his own.
 
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about when our main lead the line forward and Rooney are rested. Smith is not a good alternative. playing him there is like playing Rooney up top. A lousy idea most of the time. He can a job there but he isn't ideal in the position. He is far more effective behind or alongside one in a 4-4-2. Not up top on his own.
He's not best playing like Rooney, he's best off right up front holding the ball up, he'll hopefully have some playing off him.
 
He's not best playing like Rooney, he's best off right up front holding the ball up, he'll hopefully have some playing off him.
Everyone has his opinion on that. But for me I've seen Smith at his brilliant best when partnered by players like Viduka and Hasselbaink. He was so good playing off them. Up top he isn't as good simply because he is not the fastest and he simply isn't sharp enough. When deeper though he passes well, has an eye for a killer pass and can shoot well from much further out. Plus he contributes to counter attacks far more with his vision...However you are right about one thing. Players like Rossi and Owen thrive off strikers like him. It's just I hate the idea of us getting Ruud's replacement, and when he is injured having to play Smith up top with Rooney behind when Saha leaves. Most days that pair would produce no goals imo even on a good day...I'd rather have a Bent alongside him or Rooney in such a case...
 
Everyone has his opinion on that. But for me I've seen Smith at his brilliant best when partnered by players like Viduka and Hasselbaink. He was so good playing off them. Up top he isn't as good simply because he is not the fastest and he simply isn't sharp enough. When deeper though he passes well, has an eye for a killer pass and can shoot well from much further out. Plus he contributes to counter attacks far more with his vision...However you are right about one thing. Players like Rossi and Owen thrive off strikers like him. It's just I hate the idea of us getting Ruud's replacement, and when he is injured having to play Smith up top with Rooney behind when Saha leaves. Most days that pair would produce no goals imo even on a good day...I'd rather have a Bent alongside him or Rooney in such a case...
Thats all wrong, Smith and Rooney together would produce plenty of goals, the midfielders especially as they'll benefit most from Smudgers hold up play.
 
Thats all wrong, Smith and Rooney together would produce plenty of goals, the midfielders especially as they'll benefit most from Smudgers hold up play.
No it's not. As a partnership they'd score few. Which is what I'm talking about. They'd create loads though for the rest of the team. I can bet even a house though that a Bent-Rooney or Bent-Smith would out score a Smith-Rooney partnership.
 
No it's not. As a partnerhsip they'd score few. Which is what I'm talking about. They'd create loads though for the rest of the team. I can bet even a house though that a Bent-Rooney or Bent-Smith would out score a Smith-Rooney partnership.
Rooney's scored lots of goals as the seasons coming to a close, which is the only time Smiths been in the side, they've worked perfectly well together.
 
Could bent make united win champions league?
fecking nooooo so stop talking about this "not good enough" player we already won the league and we look to win champions league next year... united is about cracks not good players... we have the best of the best apart from richardson :( but yes we are not spurs that go for the good players we are united and we go for world class players and bent is not even on that list.
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After relegation they would have to accept around £8 mil, and at that price I think he would be a better bet that either Smith or Saha. I would certainly rather spend that on Bent than £25 mil on Torres or any other Carlos Kickaball.
 
feck the champions league, i want to win the PL 5 times in a row, feck those chelsea wankers, the ponces from north london and the dippers.
 
feck the champions league, i want to win the PL 5 times in a row, feck those chelsea wankers, the ponces from north london and the dippers.

agreed
PL must take priority first
how can you be called best in europe when you weren't even best in your home league
 
Rooney's scored lots of goals as the seasons coming to a close, which is the only time Smiths been in the side, they've worked perfectly well together.
That is not the issue. We all know Fergie's love for 4 strikers. Having two natural target men to play up top to complement Rooney, Smith and Rossi makes more sense, than having Smith as back up alternative to our main target man. That partnership has only worked well because of Rooney's goals. But you saw what happened in some other games. Where the two of them didn't have much of an combined impact. Simply because they are too similar!

My concern is that it's a partnership. We all know darn well Rooney scores goals in burst of 5-8 games in a row then gets a drought. Smith scores in burst too. Imagine if Rooney is having his draught and our main striker is out. which si liekly to happen over the course of a season. Would you really want him playing upfront with Smith up top? As a partnership at a crucial point in the season? As opposed to us having a better alternative? I honestly doubt it. We would all rather have a our big signing and Rooney as our first choice partnership and a Saha /Bent alongside Smith or Rossi as the back up partnership.
 
Could bent make united win champions league?
fecking nooooo so stop talking about this "not good enough" player we already won the league and we look to win champions league next year... united is about cracks not good players... we have the best of the best apart from richardson :( but yes we are not spurs that go for the good players we are united and we go for world class players and bent is not even on that list.
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Bent can win us the champions league and a treble even off a bench with Smith and Rossi as his partners. The way Teddy and Ole did for us in the past. I'd love us to have Rooney, someone like Torres or E'too as first choice strikers with Bent (replacing Saha in our squad), Smith or Rossi as teh alternate partnership.
 
But he left Leeds in 99, Smith is 26 so would have been about 18 when Hasselbaink left. Had he played much for the first team by then?
Towards the end of that season I seem to remember that he was getting regular games because Jimmy's partners were injured or suspended while Smith kept impressing whenever he played fomr tehs tart or off the bench. I remember the crunch match vs Arsenal that Leeds won 1-0. He impressed in that game as a support forward.....Which was had to do against Tony Adams and co....
 
That is not the issue. We all know Fergie's love for 4 strikers. Having two natural target men to play up top to complement Rooney, Smith and Rossi makes more sense, than having Smith as back up alternative to our main target man. That partnership has only worked well because of Rooney's goals. But you saw what happened in some other games. Where the two of them didn't have much of an combined impact. Simply because they are too similar!

My concern is that it's a partnership. We all know darn well Rooney scores goals in burst of 5-8 games in a row then gets a drought. Smith scores in burst too. Imagine if Rooney is having his draught and our main striker is out. which si liekly to happen over the course of a season. Would you really want him playing upfront with Smith up top? As a partnership at a crucial point in the season? As opposed to us having a better alternative? I honestly doubt it. We would all rather have a our big signing and Rooney as our first choice partnership and a Saha /Bent alongside Smith or Rossi as the back up partnership.

Smith is a target man, we just need one to replace Saha in the first 11

I would be perfectly happy with Rooney and Smith upfront is there were injuries and Rooney was off form, Smith is capable of scoring and the rest of the midfield should be getting closer to goal because of Smiths excellent hold up play.
 
Smith is a target man, we just need one to replace Saha in the first 11.
I don't agree with you on that. But it doesn't matter whether I do or not tbh....

I would be perfectly happy with Rooney and Smith upfront is there were injuries and Rooney was off form, Smith is capable of scoring and the rest of the midfield should be getting closer to goal because of Smiths excellent hold up play.
TBH you're the first poster I've seen saying that. It makes plenty of sense, though most caftards would jump down your throat for saying so. (I won't:D).

Personally however I just feel uncomfrtbale with a not so prolifci player playing up top. Especially when have no guarantees that our midfield and the rest of the team will keep up their goal scoring heights of this season next time around...But that's just my opinion.
 
Been a few days but just noticed he scored in the liverpool game,and got man of the match on a couple of reports.Gotta be worth a look atleast,if we could get him for a good price.
 
As Charlton are relegated I wouldnt pay more than £5 million for him.

Loan them Dong and buy him for 7mill with clauses that take it upto 12mill if he plays so many games, plays so many games for England and most importantly score so many goals!
 
Not too sure about Darren Bent. He is certainly not among the 1st choice strikers we are looking at. However due to Charltons relegation, Sir Alex may decide to get him on the cheap. If he sees something in Bent that will help improve our team, he will buy him.
 
Bent is good and propably cheap, able to score goals, not injury prone... He's intresting player.
 
denote the qualities that make darren bent so good a goal scorer. look how many shots on goal he has had over the years, and remember that the pokemon also had plenty of shots on goal go germany. look at the same statistic for eto'ö when he was at mallorca and look how prolific he gone onto become at barce.

then look at bent's role at charlton, a goal scoring leader of the front line. he's ready for a goal a big club, let not west ham or spurs get him, espesh if saha does go.

so i rekon bent is able to have a similar impact here br eto'o at barce. the signs cre there, the money is there, although is the position?.

bent is used to hard times in the league, relegation and fighting for europe under curbs. we should ask alan his opinion on mr bent, he has a trusted opinion...

i think bent acquisition depends on saha.
 
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yeah, why not. how can i be of assistance? i'd love to see tevez and bent at old trafford..
Not even close to being good enough for United, and no-one will ever convince me otherwise.

Bent will never belong in the calibre of player we should be looking at. He'll end up at Spurs, or Newcastle, or perhaps one the strikers Liverpool buy and then wonder why they are 20 points off the pace.
 
Bent is a good player and would score goals. If we could sign him for less than £10 milion I'm sure he'd prove to be a successful signing. Someone like him would be the only way keeping Saha would turn out a good idea.

Competing for a first team place, you would think Saha would win out. But we all know he wouldn't stay a full season fit, so when he's injured Bent would be a fasntastic replacement. Who knows how much he could improve.
 
Bent is a good player and would score goals. If we could sign him for less than £10 milion I'm sure he'd prove to be a successful signing. Someone like him would be the only way keeping Saha would turn out a good idea.

Competing for a first team place, you would think Saha would win out. But we all know he wouldn't stay a full season fit, so when he's injured Bent would be a fasntastic replacement. Who knows how much he could improve.
Lets say he played for us against Milan this season. Could you see Darren feckin' Bent making any impression at all against that defence?

Wouldn't improve our side at all. Don't think he even warrants a thread. I'd take Andy Johnson, Crouch, or Defoe ahead of him, and neither of those should get near our side either.
 
Lets say he played for us against Milan this season. Could you see Darren feckin' Bent making any impression at all against that defence?

Wouldn't improve our side at all. Don't think he even warrants a thread. I'd take Andy Johnson, Crouch, or Defoe ahead of him, and neither of those should get near our side either.

Johnson and Defoe would make no difference either. The point is, we had no Saha vs. Milan. Bent could make more of an impression than Smith.
 
I say buy him it would be hard to get his quality any cheaper the the estimated 12 Mil..
 
If we can't get Huntelaar, I'd be more then happy with Bent, we just need to add a proper goalscorer to the side.
 
Lets say he played for us against Milan this season. Could you see Darren feckin' Bent making any impression at all against that defence?

Did you think Bellamy would make an impression against Barca? How about Andy Cole and Dwight Yorke against Juventus? Bent is a terrific goalscorer, as long as he gets the service he'll score goals.
 
Not United class sorry

Before anyone says Smith and Saha are not either bollocks!

Smith adds bulldog spirt upfront and showed true spirt against Milan been unlucky with injuries and failed expirement in Midfield.

But Bent? Please hell no!
 
Not United class sorry

Before anyone says Smith and Saha are not either bollocks!

Smith adds bulldog spirt upfront and showed true spirt against Milan been unlucky with injuries and failed expirement in Midfield.

But Bent? Please hell no!
Smith didn't play against Milan