I'm shocked he somehow didn't find a way to score against us again
Danny Welbeck
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The one that got away.
The one we GAVE away. He'd do quite well under ETH
What a goal.
Go on Danny boy
Should still be at United after all these years. As Fergie showed, you never sell local players that come up through the club. They will always have that something extra.
Wish we had him instead of Weghorst.
Ferguson sold loads of local players that came through the club.
Wish we had a striker closer to the likes of Haaland or Benzema tbh
Always happy to see Welbeck doing well.
True. He wouldn't have sold Welbeck though.
No.
Anyone that can get this boy to score deserves a knighthood.
Sold the shit ones. Danny was pure class.
Yes.
4 goals and 2 assists for Danny this season, in 24 league appearances.
For reference, Martial has the exact same g/a return in 14 league appearances. Weghorst has 1 assist and no goals in 12 total appearances in the league.
So, yeah, we're no better off with the strikers we have than we'd be with a striker we deemed not good enough for United, 9 seasons ago.
I'm not suggesting that Welbeck would've worked out well for us, but I'll bet that if we'd started this season with him as our #9 he'd have featured in many more matches than Martial has been able to and he'd probably have 10 goals for us. This speaks to how massively we've failed in having a proper striker in the team.
Let's hope that this time next year we can all laugh about this as we're watching Osimhen or Kane collect their 25th goal of the season as we battle for the league title.
For reference, Martial has the exact same g/a return in 14 league appearances. Weghorst has 1 assist and no goals in 12 total appearances in the league.
So, yeah, we're no better off with the strikers we have than we'd be with a striker we deemed not good enough for United, 9 seasons ago.
I'm not suggesting that Welbeck would've worked out well for us, but I'll bet that if we'd started this season with him as our #9 he'd have featured in many more matches than Martial has been able to and he'd probably have 10 goals for us. This speaks to how massively we've failed in having a proper striker in the team.
Let's hope that this time next year we can all laugh about this as we're watching Osimhen or Kane collect their 25th goal of the season as we battle for the league title.
Was immense today. Played very deep and they just didn’t/couldn’t track him. Textbook far post header and a nice curled left footer. Welbz looks a different player when he is confident like today.
We are very happy to have him here.
We are very happy to have him here.
Shouldn't still be at the club.
But, personally I believe the timing of his departure was wrong, especially when you consider the other players thay had just left.
Good on him. He deserves it.
definitely a WUM bot epidemic on here.Ah Pete. Every part of this is wrong. We all love to see Danny have a good day and plenty of us still have affection for him but it was absolutely the right thing to move him on.
Remember when Arsenal fans were saying they were going to turn him into the next Henry.
Good to see him still going strong. He left at the right time from his point of view after LVG told him pre-season that he wouldn't be getting much playing time. 400 games at 5 premier league clubs, a useful 1-in-4-ish prem striker but not a sustained first choice for a top team.
Ironically, he would more useful than Martial or Weghorst and was replaced by Falcao. Our loss.
Ironically, he would more useful than Martial or Weghorst and was replaced by Falcao. Our loss.
He has scored 51 goals in the 9 years since he left. I don't think we've missed anything. Zlatan, Lukaku, Cavani, and Ronaldo had better scoring rates yet none of them were deemed good enough.
He has somehow remained in the premier league with an atrocious goals to games record. For some reason he was good for England though.
Casual 2 goals and assist in 45 mins
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The only thing holding him back from having had a long career at the top clubs is goalscoring instincts. He didn't need to be prolific, but if he was getting 10-15 a season as a back up option who could play numerous positions he would have been such a valuable player. Has pretty much everything you would want other than the knack for scoring. It is odd, very smart player otherwise, coachable, tactically astute, team orientated. We saw an example of this last week, Brighton got in down the left, ball comes across into a perfect scoring spot 5 yards out, middle of the goal, Danny had inexplicably checked his run and ended up 2-3 yards away from should have been a simple goal.
Bar final ball, he's very good overall. Great stamina, athleticism, good physique and body strength. Good in pressing, winning the ball, good instinct to gain possession from loose ball, hard working at tracking back, running in behind, running channel. Skillful enough to combine with other physical attribute to allow him to be decent in dribbling, holding up play, linking up. Aerial competent too. Injuries and his lack of final ball prevent him to become top player.
He's like physical version of Morata.
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See also Jordan Ayew, something like 35 goals in 240 PL games. A really good footballer despite that, game is about more than goals as a striker.
I don't think it's instinct. He put himself in scoring position regularly. It's more about mental. Like Sterling I think. Has Bambi legs at that final moment.
Martial, Weghorst are examples of players who lack CF instinct on different level of severity. One doesn't poach, attack in the box enough. One can't anticipate anything. He's slower than his marker, so lose all the time by reacting after the other players on ball action. You would have provide inch perfect defense splitting pass in order to provide Weghorst clear chances to score, which is difficult at this level.
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Obviously he would have never been our first choice striker, a 1st choice striker for United at least under SAF used to be world class or at least very good. But as 2nd choice / valuable squad player he was and is much better than most of the dross we have had since.
Even as a 21/22 year old SAF started him in big/important games because he was an intelligent, reliable, flexible and hard working player.
Even as a 21/22 year old SAF started him in big/important games because he was an intelligent, reliable, flexible and hard working player.
Maybe a bit of co-ordination in that final moment, but the amount of times I have watched him and the ball is flying through the 6 yard box and he is out at the edge of the box for some reason.
Scorer of great goals not a great goalscorer
still would bring all the pressing that ETH likes, selfless game play and a striker that can head. Imagine that
a freebie in the summer along with another?
still would bring all the pressing that ETH likes, selfless game play and a striker that can head. Imagine that
a freebie in the summer along with another?
Depends on what games you watch. Today game, he plays more a supporting forward role to the other forward. He moves around many part of the pitch and expected to link up deeper more. It's not physical possible to be available to poach every cross into the box. Yet he scored, and had a lucky(?) assist when poaching inside the box in today game.
When you compare Welbeck to Weghorst who got people excuse for him not poaching properly as no 10 because he needs to do all the off ball work, the gap in ability is as clear as day. I don't say Welbeck is a great player. Just a good PL well rounded forward with strong work ethic.
It's weird for some others United fan to talk as if Weghorst as workhorse no 10 is a new tactical revolution move, where Welbeck is doing everything in question at higher level. Yet Welbeck is only a back up for upper mid table team. Brighton picked up Welbeck for free few years ago. Getting these type of competent squad players cheaply is not impossible, contrarily to those insisting on keeping Weghorst past this season.
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/62611721
He's not free. I don't think Brighton would let him leave without a reasonable fee. At his age, paying a fee for him is not good business for us. Unless it's between choosing to pay for Welbeck or Weghorst.
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Playing well but that’s in a team that functions well. His manager deserves credit for getting him inform.
He'd be our 2nd highest goal scorer on 6 goals. feck me we need some attacking reinforcements.
Love Welbeck though, always thought he was a classy player just unfortunate with injuries at the wrong part in his career. Shame. Glad he's finally able to perform.
Love Welbeck though, always thought he was a classy player just unfortunate with injuries at the wrong part in his career. Shame. Glad he's finally able to perform.
Him and Rooney interchanging and supporting each other at 9/10 position was probably the best our attack looked in the last 12 years or so, apart from that van Persie period(even though we weren't playing that much flowing football when Robin was here, we were scoring more due to his brilliance rather than creativity from others).
At this stage he surely has more goals against us than for us.
Little cnut can’t wait to score against us every season, every time we get someone as pathetic as Welbeck coming through we should shoot them into the fecking sun. Can’t believe we’ve brought through another Scouse Rat.