Dong Fangzhuo
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Injury prone, expensive and just not all that good. No thanks.
And people keep saying the vast majority of those need replaced. Which means some of them will have to be replaced with homegrown players.Jones, Smalling, Tuanzebe, Young, Lingard and Rashford are all English whilst Pogba, McTominay, Fosu-Mensah and Pereira all also class as homegrown players so we’re fine on that front and better off than the large majority of other clubs.
If we sign Rose it’s because we need a left back and we can’t keep signing foreign players. I think people forget this sometimes. We need homegrown players and those who are available and of any use are few and far between.
If I were the club I wouldn't want to be tipping anybody off about this. It just makes us look really stupid.Could be right.
I do always find with these stories if a player is linked to a club through multiple newspapers someone has been tipped off from the club off the record somewhere down the line.
It's same when rumours of a manager getting sacked gets leaked in 3-4 papers and it usually then happens.
What's clear is Mourinho has stated he wants new FBs (similar to Pep last summer), Rose seems to be a player he rates and you also have Shaw wanting out and Pochettino being a manager who got excellent form out of him so potential for deal is there I think.
Shaw isn’t good enough though. So the need for a left back remains.We've got Shaw. No need for Rose
The only issue is Jose doesn't rate Shaw, so we may see movement there.
A straight swap yes, paying the reported fees for Rose is madness
Shaw isn’t good enough though. So the need for a left back remains.
I'd argue that if given a chance, Shaw could prove to be good enough.
Stop apologising for Shaw being a poor professional. A player who's been criticised by every single manager he's played under.
I've so desperately wanted to be a Shaw fan and banged the drum for a long time after his injury, but if you actually watch the guy play, it's obvious he's nowhere near as good as failed winger Ashley Young at LB, and that is damning!
And a player that Jose said, as little ago as Feb 9th, would sign a new contract and be at Utd for years. Swings and roundabouts, only time is going to tell.
So you wouldn't recommend him then?If Levy gets more than £20m for Rose then he should be knighted.
For someone who is injury prone, over weight and a renowed moaner then it would good going to sell at any price.
So you wouldn't recommend him then?
If Woody gets more than £20m for Shaw then he should be knighted.
For someone who is injury prone, over weight and a renowed moaner then it would good going to sell at any price.
I'd be raging if we sold Rose and replaced him with another mega crock like Shaw. ...
I wouldn't. Pochettino would improve Shaw hugely ... and in any case he'd be understudy to Davies unless and until he shows otherwise.
And meanwhile we'd get £40m to spend on other positions.
Just read that Manchester United will have to offer £40m PLUS Luke Shaw to land Tottenham star Danny Rose this summer.
That would be terrible business if it happened. Rose is nothing special. Always injured. Can't cross a ball any better than Valencia or Young. I rather keep saw than do that shocking deal.
Ryan Bertrand is a much better option.
Yeah I totally get that because Pochettino is like a football guru man!I wouldn't. Pochettino would improve Shaw hugely ... and in any case he'd be understudy to Davies unless and until he shows otherwise.
And meanwhile we'd get £40m to spend on other positions.
Why? Rose hardly featured, but that was because of his season and injury. And Young did not look all that good, in fact, if we compare him with Trippier from other side it was evident how much Young is lacking in terms of creativity.Judged on their World Cup performances, I’d say that Young is currently the better player.
Yeah anybody who gives us decent money for Rose has been conned. Like @InLevyITrust says he's simply nowhere near the all action fullback he once was, he's lost that edge. He's just average now and Ben Davies is rightfully ahead of him, the injuries have taken their toll and there is no guarantee whatsoever that he will return to previous form, especially when it seems every other week he's back on the treatment table. Most Spurs fans I imagine would be glad to be rid of him, especially since he decided it was a good idea to mouth off in public about his wages when he'd just spent a significant portion of the previous season injured, and then proceeded to barely play for the next one.
It's a damned shame because him and Walker bombing down our flanks gave us so much width, they were excellent, now one has left the club and the other is broken and I imagine the club would bite the hand off anyone who offered a decent amount.
Yeah anybody who gives us decent money for Rose has been conned. Like @InLevyITrust says he's simply nowhere near the all action fullback he once was, he's lost that edge. He's just average now and Ben Davies is rightfully ahead of him, the injuries have taken their toll and there is no guarantee whatsoever that he will return to previous form, especially when it seems every other week he's back on the treatment table. Most Spurs fans I imagine would be glad to be rid of him, especially since he decided it was a good idea to mouth off in public about his wages when he'd just spent a significant portion of the previous season injured, and then proceeded to barely play for the next one.
It's a damned shame because him and Walker bombing down our flanks gave us so much width, they were excellent, now one has left the club and the other is broken and I imagine the club would bite the hand off anyone who offered a decent amount.