The only other PL teams i've seen mentioned are Everton and Newcastle, and there was an article linking him to City for 7M from the Sun which seemed to be made up
Well mr Smith you dont know shit do you. For Molde solskjær has found several gems. Gems that was sold out to Europe for good money. Thats one of the Things Norwegian clubs needs to be good at cause they need the money. United dont need stars now. United need players that Will be so proud to wear the United jersey that they Will give 130% in each game. Not overpayed lapdogs.
Dele was only 'KNOWN' after Wimbledon punked us 3 zip.....So yes. Everyone will claim to have rated and known him...
It's very likely he'll come to us, especially if Giggs puts a word in his ear.
I think he already has. He stalled on a new contract at Swansea apparently after Giggs watched him a few months back, if the posts on the Swansea forum I saw are to be believed.
Were you replying to the post above mine?
He's a Liverpool fan though.
Point is no one cares about the badge anymore. It's a thing of the past. Look at the best players at every club, even Messi forces new contracts yearly. We need players who are hungry for success and don't get complacent when they "make it". I personally like this signing, but more as a punt then as a "he's gonna save us!!!! he's young and loves the badge!!!". We sign so many players who care about marketing and it's time to sign players who care about success.
So what is it about the kid that impresses you besides his pace that has been mentioned to death already?
Fair point. Im not trying to sound harsh but the numbers are not earth shattering all the same, he's played almost 28 full matches. Im just skeptical about these types of signings but im good with it considering there's little risk involved.
Vardy is the quintessential late bloomer, his two seasons in the championship weren't as impressive as his time in the conference and he peaked in that title winning season. He's an established top flight player of course now.
Im not asking for so called galacticos, ive seen links to Dybala and I think he'd be misfit. Adding Van Dijk to this list is a reach don't you think? Ive already stated that im ok with this signing (if it comes to fruition). However im skeptical because United have had no success in the past with signings like this. Remember Powell? Im not getting excited especially as Swansea fans were just saying the kid looked like a league 2 player just not long ago (off one of their forums and I posted some quotes).
On top of that he seems one dimensional, nothing but speed, we've been down this route before with players like David Bellion, and we also had the likes of Obertan and Bebe under Fergie who never impressed. Most of the players you mentioned were established in those lower leagues or were rare young talents who made their professional debuts at age 17-18 like Walcott and Gray to be my recollection. Brooks was a Man City youth prodigy. Apparently Everton, Leeds and Newcastle are the other clubs interested.
It's not just about being young though. Older players can be hungry too, especially those with the right mentality or with something to prove. As much as I would like the whole team to be below 25 years old, I think there is still a need to have experience running through the team to help the team push on when faced with challenges.Yeah i get that. However, Powell made 4 appearances for us. We signed him then loaned him to lower level teams, we didn't develop him. And i seem to recall SAF saying they scouted a different player and were told it was bebe but it wasn't? Obertan was awful yes.
I guess on a more approach styled note, i think we do need to go for less known names. For example, we have been linked with the likes of rice and wan bissaka, and the likes of meunier (now PSG’s spare right back who is 28 in september). I just want to see a more long term plan and some hungry young talent rather than more stop gaps who wil need moving on in two years
His form improved and more teams seem to be involved.And now the price is doubled.
And now the price is doubled.
Yeah i get that. However, Powell made 4 appearances for us. We signed him then loaned him to lower level teams, we didn't develop him. And i seem to recall SAF saying they scouted a different player and were told it was bebe but it wasn't? Obertan was awful yes.
I guess on a more approach styled note, i think we do need to go for less known names. For example, we have been linked with the likes of rice and wan bissaka, and the likes of meunier (now PSG’s spare right back who is 28 in september). I just want to see a more long term plan and some hungry young talent rather than more stop gaps who wil need moving on in two years
Anyone claiming Dele Alli was some big starlet before he left MK Dons for Spurs is not telling the truthIt isn't entirely true. He was well known in football circles as he was an England youth player for 3 years before he joined Spurs.
Anyone claiming Dele Alli was some big starlet before he left Wimbledon for Spurs is not telling the truth
I also don't count being known in football circles as being well known.
True, but it doesnt mean its a no go and we might go for him again next year. If James is bought its a ''project'' for the future that might even help us right now.Dortmund have numerous times. There's no indication the move is on. There's three parties involved in a transfer and this move would only really make sense for us at this point.
Jesus. State of this post.
We’ve signed players from lower leagues before and they’ve worked out well.
You can’t just go out and buy the galactico big names all the time.
Probably the best video out there at the moment demonstrating how devastating his pace is. He has Mbappe & prime Bale acceleration and speed
Queiroz had people watch Bebe in Portugal and urged Fergie to sign him before he was snatched up by another club. Fergie admitted to not watching him before approving the transfer. I don't recall anything about the wrong player being scouted and confused for Bebe. Some Swansea fan who claims to be ITK posted that James will be loaned back to them for a season. We shall find out
Anyone claiming Dele Alli was some big starlet before he left Wimbledon for Spurs is not telling the truth
I also don't count being known in football circles as being well known.
There’s far more to it than that. He was signed by some club for £300k, and 5 weeks later we bought him for £7.4m from that club, who Bebe never played a competitive game for, just a handful of pre-season games. It’s true Fergie never saw him play, but the whole deal was to funnel money to his agent - Jorge Mendes! Who only became Bebe’s agent a week before being transferred to Utd. Mendes received around £3m of the £7.4m fee!!
Called this weeks ago after Giggs was in the crowd - makes all sorts of sense for DJ/Giggs/Wales and SCFC. Giggs will have a direct influence on how he is developed at Man Utd for Wales' benefit. Ensure we get the right deal including loans (inc other players), % sell on clauses etc. and it's win-win. This will enable GP to establish a good relationship with Man Utd too. Mr Birch will of course be all over this one like a rash - balance the books, make the club saleable and let's get some REAL investors in eh
Anyone claiming Dele Alli was some big starlet before he left Wimbledon for Spurs is not telling the truth
I also don't count being known in football circles as being well known.
Dele was only 'KNOWN' after Wimbledon punked us 3 zip.....So yes. Everyone will claim to have rated and known him...
Spot on.Redcafe is fun.
“We need to start signing these types of players before other clubs sign them up and he’s worth double the price a couple of years later”
United make a bid...
“Why the feck are we going for these players and not the players that are now worth quadruple the price?!?”
Nothing wrong with kick and run if you can run faster than anyone.looks like a kick-and-run bandit from the videos i've watched
hopefully turns a decent player if he comes here
our own scouts didn't rate Dele Alli.
Swansea fans want them to become our feeder club:
Redcafe is fun.
“We need to start signing these types of players before other clubs sign them up and he’s worth double the price a couple of years later”
United make a bid...
“Why the feck are we going for these players and not the players that are now worth quadruple the price?!?”
This...totally. Pace alone may sound unimpressive but used in the right way can be a devastating weapon. One can only hope he's coachable, and that the coaches are good enough to utilise his best assets in the team's play.Nothing wrong with kick and run if you can run faster than anyone.
His touch looks excellent too.
Robertson 8 million from Hull
Arnold came up through youths.
If the scouts do their job, there are young players from the lower divisions who can be turned into stars. Why do fans always want ready made players when most have failed here.
ONE Swansea fan said something about it.Swansea fans want them to become our feeder club: