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Dalot vs Wan-Bissaka
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People are blaming Dalot today ? Just an agenda driven I guess. Today was completely on ETH. He played a 3 man CB and asked the defence to go for air balls to forwards. Guess, it was completely to avoid our midfield.
When AWB came , was he any better ? Infact ETH asked Sabitzer to continue on the right of 3 man defence.
When AWB came , was he any better ? Infact ETH asked Sabitzer to continue on the right of 3 man defence.
Anyone want to bring up any names that could be a improvement on Dalot and AWB ?
Btw, I dont mind either Dalot or AWB.
Btw, I dont mind either Dalot or AWB.
AWB is a lot better than Dalot right now
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Horses for courses boys. Certain games suit dalot more others awb.
I don't think there's many clubs in the world if any has better options that us in both full back positions
I don't think there's many clubs in the world if any has better options that us in both full back positions
He’s had a clear run in the team since the World Cup. Dalot playing in what, second or third game since the beginning of December?
Ayling looked more like Dalot than Dalot today
Can’t get on board with this over the top AWB praise. He’ll show his usual flaws in his next start. But he did come on and do ok.
In truth, I still think we should be getting an upgrade on them both.
In truth, I still think we should be getting an upgrade on them both.
Still don't understand what Dalot is supposedly better at than Bissaka. He's just a constant worry every time the ball his on his side of the pitch.
He's had some good games this season and has bought into the Ten Hag + Varane/Martinez aggressive defending style, but he is still so unreliable on the ball in both halves of the pitch and its still unacceptably easy for opposition wingers to cause us problems down his side of the pitch.
At least there's a level of assurance with Bissaka and you know someone isn't going to be firing balls across our six yard box every time they feel like it. He's not perfect but I know which of the two I'd be picking.
He's had some good games this season and has bought into the Ten Hag + Varane/Martinez aggressive defending style, but he is still so unreliable on the ball in both halves of the pitch and its still unacceptably easy for opposition wingers to cause us problems down his side of the pitch.
At least there's a level of assurance with Bissaka and you know someone isn't going to be firing balls across our six yard box every time they feel like it. He's not perfect but I know which of the two I'd be picking.
That is 2 games in a row where Dalot has looked like the 2 years ago Dalot. Kind of lazy and plays with no urgency. I am sure he will get his form back but I'd start AWB for now.
Hence - right now
Nothing, at their best Wan Bissaka is better, unfortunately for him he got into a rut under Ole. Dalot is gigantically over rated on here also. Someone on here told me right back wasnt a position that required upgrading in. Don’t know how anyone can say that when you see our left back performing like he does and how far behind in quality our right backs are in comparison.
Right now AWB has the edge. Dalot has been very good this season but with the injury and return he hasn't replicated that initial form
The improvement of both has negated the need to invest in that position in the summer. Neither of them are the best in their position, but they have shown their ability to improve and offer different strengths.
Apologies for the positive post.
Apologies for the positive post.
Defensively AWB is much better. No one can dribble past him and it's not easy to get a cross in from the right side when he is playing. Offensively there is nothing between Dalot and AWB. Hence, obvious better RB now is AWB.
Dalot isn't match fit. He had that sweet shot that struck the cross bar, but whilst he wasn't terrible he wasn't great either, same as previous game really. ETH made the right sub at the right time as Gnonto was starting to have more influence as Dalot started to tire
I cannot believe I’m saying this but currently I prefer AWB. Like a Rashford I wanted him to be sold but I really admire how they turned it around.
When Dalot gets back up to speed I think he is the better player, certainly going forward he is, however I would start AWB away against Barca as their will be a lot of defending to do in that match and Dalot is not yet fully up to speed.
Not for me. He's a brilliant defender one-on-one, but too many lapses in concentration. Doesn't look over his shoulder, ball watches a bit.
A lot of the posters who had convinced themselves that AWB was championship quality and Dalot was closing in on being an elite right back are looking extremely silly now.
Even if you think AWB isn't up to it, there is no chance Dalot is a significantly better player than him. Those with the AWB hate boner don't have much to support their claims anymore. There has never been much in it and if you use what they have done in their careers to date I fail to see how it isn't Bissaka.
Even if you think AWB isn't up to it, there is no chance Dalot is a significantly better player than him. Those with the AWB hate boner don't have much to support their claims anymore. There has never been much in it and if you use what they have done in their careers to date I fail to see how it isn't Bissaka.
What a ghastly thread. Dalot is streets ahead of AWB, if he decides to move on in the summer he'll have offers from the likes of Barcelona cos he's technically fantastic. AWB's looking at a move back to Palace at best, which just says it all about the gap between them.
AWB's whole thing is supposed to be defence and he isn't even better than Dalot in that regard, the latter is so so much better positionally, in the air and at defending the back post as evidenced by games like West Ham at home this season.
AWB's whole thing is supposed to be defence and he isn't even better than Dalot in that regard, the latter is so so much better positionally, in the air and at defending the back post as evidenced by games like West Ham at home this season.
Thank you. AwB makes a sliding tackle and everyone forgets the goals he cost us versus City and Arsenal. This is not someone that can do it at the highest of levels.
Dalot might still not get there although before his injury he was on a great run of form, defensively and offensively.
I generally prefer Dalot, even though AWB certainly has improved in recent months, but he was at such a low level that this is really a low bar to set. We should certainly keep an eye on Dalot, he doesn't seem to be at 100% post injury and maybe it's worth resting him sometimes, now that we actually have another option in his position.
Dear me. Dalot had one bad game and suddenly people are saying AWB is much better. Apart from City, which other game did AWB show anything amazing or anything massively different that what he did the previous years? AWB is a fine RB for a counter attacking team. Nothing more nothing less. He is nowhere near Dalot's positioning or the ability to progress the ball. He can't overlap, and he is always late to take good position.
The thread is over a month old
Dalot is kind of better at protecting the back post when a cross comes in. Wan Bissaka is often asleep in those situations. Also Dalot has a better shot. Both are shit at crossing, Dalot is slower.
I'd look for a better right back myself.
I'd look for a better right back myself.
Actually, I'd argue AWB is much better suited to a team that builds up patiently than he is to a counterattacking team. He's quite good at processing possession, as long as he doesn't have to do anything visionary. I agree Dalot is the better player, as soon as he's back to his usual self (by the standards of this season) defensively. But he hasn't been for the past two games.
I feel like you're missing a very important aspect... Dalot has a better first touch and is more confident on the ball. AWB on the ball, is often the trigger for a press by the opposition. Since his first touch can be atrocious and he can panic under pressure. That for me is critical for a team that likes to play from the back.
Between that and AWB's backpost weakness (we conceded a goal due to that, again, when he switched off vs Arsenal), I'm not sure how some people think he's better than Dalot. Both have their strengths and weaknesses, but Dalot's weaknesses aren't remotely so glaring.
Currently Dalot is playing poorly and AWB is on slightly better form, but this is only temporary.
This. Also, Dalot is much more comfortable with his left foot which helps with his press resistance.
You have been long enough on the forum to know that you are only as good as your last game on here.
To me it is quite simple. AwB showed us his best form, which is decent. When Dalot was on a high, he was on another level to AwB.
Like posters trying to convinve themselves Lindelöf is good enough with the endelss debates. Once Martinez was bought, the rest is history. Dalot may or may not be great, i still think he can be, as he showed previously. AwB is not the answer for sure, just not good enough.
Like posters trying to convinve themselves Lindelöf is good enough with the endelss debates. Once Martinez was bought, the rest is history. Dalot may or may not be great, i still think he can be, as he showed previously. AwB is not the answer for sure, just not good enough.
If we are taking about a LVG possession for possession's sake then I can see your point. But for a team that wants to control and press he is not that good (he is not a rubbish player ofc). He is Valencia lite.
What a dire thread these last few pages have been. The slide tackle specialist is all of a sudden better than Dalot who is only just returning from a lengthy time off injured? People have very very short memories
We need a new RB regardless
Dalot is simply a better player than AWB, sorry, but you all waited for Dalot to have a game off to come here with the conclusion that AWB is miles better ?
Dalot was injured for a while, clearly not match-fit, and kind of rushed into these two Leeds games' starting lineups due to AWB's absence in the first game. Of course, he is not at his best. His attacking play is also underrated, his ability to play passes centrally through lines with his both feet is such a valuable trait that influences our attacking moves and that AWB is not and will never be able to do.
The same goes for Antony and his ability to bring others into the final third which I also found very much underrated here and we are way much better and balanced team with Dalot and Antony starting from the right.
Dalot was injured for a while, clearly not match-fit, and kind of rushed into these two Leeds games' starting lineups due to AWB's absence in the first game. Of course, he is not at his best. His attacking play is also underrated, his ability to play passes centrally through lines with his both feet is such a valuable trait that influences our attacking moves and that AWB is not and will never be able to do.
The same goes for Antony and his ability to bring others into the final third which I also found very much underrated here and we are way much better and balanced team with Dalot and Antony starting from the right.
I'm happy with both lately to be honest. They're very different, but I think both have been really good this season.
Yeah, Imma have to disagree with you on this one:
EDIT: Wrong competition for Dalot
The answer to "what is Dalot better than AWB at?" will always be: possession in the first 2 thirds, progressive passes, defending crosses. That's enough for him to be a better player imo.
To be frank, we need someone of Shaw caliber at RB. Dalot and AWB should be our backup RB. Happy with either one being sold.
For me, AWB is better player. Very solid defensively and improving on link up and offensive play.
For me, AWB is better player. Very solid defensively and improving on link up and offensive play.