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2015-16 Performances

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5.9 Season Average Rating
Appearances
56
Clean sheets
22
Goals
2
Assists
4
Yellow cards
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Whether we buy a new cb is only worthwhile talking about in january the earliest. Until then we got to decide to be happy with either an attacking line up or a defensive one.

Considering the harping of LVG being a negatively and primarily a drfensive minded coach; playing blind has added a great deal of suprise and variety in our attack.

Not a single CB in the world can assist the way blind has done this season apart from maybe david luiz.

So what do we say here? The fans who were pissed off by our attacking tactics want to change the defence as soon as we start scoring 3 goals a game?

Our attacking ability has dramatically improved once de gea started playing; likewise replacing daley blind for what currently is- no reason; may change all of the good work we have been seeing.
 
Dante said:
It's unfair entirely because you describe the defending as 'comical'. It was an incredible recovery from a slip. Slips like that happen all the time, but recoveries like it don't.

Blind has been outmuscled and outpaced loads of time this season. His lack of closing down led to all three of Wolfsburg's chances yesterday, including the goal.
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The recovery was good but it was horrible defending to start with. He misjudged the ball completely, lost the man he was marking completely(giroud), he awkwardly dives forward taking the ball forward with him and almost ended up conceding a 1v1 from a harmless long ball which should have been easily dealt with. He doesn't fill me with confidence at all.

He hasn't been outmuscled a lot like you say. He conceded one chance vs gomis which was his mistake and against Southampton everyone else was equally culpable and our defence as a whole was poor that game. yesterday blind didn't have a good game but it's a stretch to single him for the blame for all the chances. He is at best partly blameable with darmian not able to deal well with schurle cutting in from the right. Even Valencia and Young had mistakes. For the goal, the whole defence switched off.
 
ivaldo said:
No I read what you write, the same as the several other people who quoted you after making such a ridiculous statement about being bullied by Benteke.
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And that is the sum total of your basis for me criticising him every match despite me telling you I actually gave him MotM for said game? Like I said, you're being silly and rather bizarre.
 
Dion said:
And that is the sum total of your basis for me criticising him every match despite me telling you I actually gave him MotM for said game? Like I said, you're being silly and rather bizarre.
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Criticising someone for something that didn't actually happen seems bizarre to me.
 
prath92 said:
He is much less error prone that Jones.
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I'm not sure he is tbh. Jones' errors are more obvious because he's rather less graceful but I'm not sure he makes more of them.

Blind - Jones - Smalling - Darmian looks far better than Darmian - Blind - Smalling - Valencia.
 
ivaldo said:
Oops someone doesn't understand the word 'irony', nice try though.
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Arf :D what a clown you are.

Never seen someone get so defensive over a player before. Getting mad even when someone compliments them in a way you don't like.
 
Dion said:
Arf :D what a clown you are.

Never seen someone get so defensive over a player before. Getting mad even when someone compliments them in a way you don't like.
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Cool story bro.
 
ivaldo said:
With you yes, until your next fantasy.
#lastword?
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Never seen someone become so defensive about a player, it's actually insane. So completely determined to get the last word in because you think blind didn't lose a few physical battles against Benteke during the first 30 minutes of the Liverpool match, as if it's grounds for whatever this is. Utterly bizarre, and that white text stuff doesn't actually work on about 90% of monitors fwiw.
 
Dion said:
Never seen someone become so defensive about a player, it's actually insane. So completely determined to get the last word in because you think blind didn't lose a few physical battles against Benteke during the first 30 minutes of the Liverpool match, as if it's grounds for whatever this is. Utterly bizarre, and that white text stuff doesn't actually work on about 90% of monitors fwiw.
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Easy fishing :lol:
 
@Dion

I think why people get defensive over daley blind is that we see a similar projection to how the likes of schweinsteiger went from being an average winger to a wonderful midfielder.

Likewise; blind in his first season at CB has good performances atleast by 70:30 ratio. Considering its his first season at CB and he is playing games like this; alot of us can only be excited that he will overcome his learning period and become a crazy CB who assists us in defence aswell as in attack.
 
Dion said:
Like I said, please read and stop replying to what you want to see.
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Terry is only a situationally good centre back because in situations like Louis van Gaal's system he would be exposed by the very high line and wouldn't have the qualities on the ball to build up from the back…

Obviously I'm not being serious since situationally applies to most players since if you use a player in a way that minimises their strengths and maximises their weaknesses they won't be effective.

Blind is a good centre back if you don't agree with that statement then that's your opinion.
 
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Dion said:
I think a 34 year old Terry is the epitome of a situationally good centerback, but your leap in logic to that meaning I must disregarding his entire career previously doesn't really work. Terry would have been an asset to any backline in his pomp, even if he was an arse. That doesn't change that he's limited in effectiveness to playing a really deep line now. Giggs was situationally a good central midfielder in his later days. That doesn't mean he wasn't a world class winger previous. The difference between Di Maria and Blind is this silly technical semantic point you're trying to imply that not working in one system or situation is the same as only being suitable in a role for one systelse This is true of all of your examples withthe exception of Terry. Mascherano was fantastic for Barcelona for long periods despite notreally being a conventional centerback who would have struggled massively somewhere else.

Playing horses for courses isn't some massive slight on Blind, he excels in our current system. That doesn't mean he doesn't struggle when the system breaks down of course but that happens with lots of players. Acknowledging that fact isn't suggesting that you want him dropped or killed, no matter how desperate some in this thread are too see the slightest criticism even when framed by a massive compliment as a devastating assault.

Players have strengths and weaknesses. This isn't big news.
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Exactly. Why point it out specifically then that Blind is only "situationally" a good CB, when all you mean is that Blind has certain weaknesses that would be exposed in another system. That's true for most players, barring some absolutely top class players.
 
CG1010 said:
Exactly. Why point it out specifically then that Blind is only "situationally" a good CB, when all you mean is that Blind has certain weaknesses that would be exposed in another system. That's true for most players, barring some absolutely top class players.
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Because occasionally our system breaks down. Like it did vs Southampton and in the CL.
 
Dion said:
Because occasionally our system breaks down. Like it did vs Southampton and in the CL.
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You are saying as if Blind is not good for anything during such times. He is exceptional in interceptions and tackles even though is a bit lacking in pace and sometimes positioning. We have only conceded only 5 goals in 7 matches in premier league, which is the joint lowest (though admittedly some teams have played one game more). So its clearly not such a problem as you are suggesting.
 
CG1010 said:
You are saying as if Blind is not good for anything during such times. He is exceptional in interceptions and tackles even though is a bit lacking in pace and sometimes positioning. We have only conceded only 5 goals in 7 matches in premier league, which is the joint lowest (though admittedly some teams have played one game more). So its clearly not such a problem as you are suggesting.
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I don't think you know how much of a problem I consider it, in fact I'd suggest you're way off and reading what you want to read. I'll point back to this:
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If you're going to defend by keeping the ball I can't think of many I'd rather have at the back. He's not the natural defender Pique is but he's doing the same job for us.
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I think that says enough about my opinions on the risk/reward and I stand by the premise that this is an utterly ridiculous thing to have been dragged out for 3 pages given it was a pretty big compliment and some children couldn't handle that someone might not think their favourite player is absolutely flawless.
 
Dion said:
I don't think you know how much of a problem I consider it, in fact I'd suggest you're way off and reading what you want to read. I'll point back to this:


I think that says enough about my opinions on the risk/reward and I stand by the premise that this is an utterly ridiculous thing to have been dragged out for 3 pages given it was a pretty big compliment and some children couldn't handle that someone might not think their favourite player is absolutely flawless.
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Haven't read the past three pages but I don't think anyone is suggesting that he is absolutely flawless. He had a bad game versus Southampton but he has had more good to great games versus bad games, hell Blind has had much better games than Terry has this season. As you said, people dip. Terry has certainly dipped and isn't the same player he was four/five years ago. Blind is playing his first season for us as a CB, and yet you seem to want to bash him for one bad game against Southampton. Even though he could become way better as the season progresses. He could get worse but currently he is pretty good in the CB position. He may not have Jones' speed etc. but Jones can certainly learn a lot from Blind's positional play and game reading intelligence. Hell, Blind has only been dispossessed once in the EPL versus Smalling's twice. Smalling has won more duels and tackles and has a higher percentage for both (57% v 49% Duels and 71% v 67% tackles) but Blind has scored, passed more (436 v 355), has higher accuracy(91% v 87%), more crosses (4 v 0), more long balls and much less fouls.

Hell, John Terry only has and better duels and tackles percentage but that's it albeit with way less duels and tackles recorded so the precentage will be in Terry's favour. Everything else is lopsided in Blind's favour.
 
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Again you're going great lengths to defend Blind from criticism I didn't make. It's just plain bizarre.
 
Dion said:
Again you're going great lengths to defend Blind from criticism I didn't make. It's just plain bizarre.
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Well, you mean apart from in the first half an hour where Benteke actually went up against him and destroyed him, then somehow inexplicably decided to go up against Smalling instead and got marked out of the game? He also struggled against Spuds, Swansea (very evidently) and PSV. He's also been suspect in wide areas.


Whether you agree or not, it shouldn't have been too difficult to work out. Your snarky tone is even more amusing by your admission.
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Shouldn't have started today based on his last few performances, with the exception of the Sunderland game he has struggled recently, pace of Walcott and Sanchez could be too much for him today. These area kind of games where I don't think it is worth the risk playing him but hopefully he proves me wrong.
 
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Shouldn't have started today based on his last few performances, with the exception of the Sunderland game he has struggled recently, pace of Walcott and Sanchez could be too much for him today. These area kind of games where I don't think it is worth the risk playing him but hopefully he proves me wrong.
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I get he isnt the most physical but they are pleanty pf CB's slower than him. Kompany, mertesacker etc.
 
Arf ivaldo is back.

Utterly obsessed with me, at least you're sticking to one thread this time :D

And like I said, you don't actually read.
 
Dion said:
Arf ivaldo is back.

Utterly obsessed with me, at least you're sticking to one thread this time :D

And like I said, you don't actually read.
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Typical response, gets called out, proof given of this 'compliment' you keep calling it and you ignore the post completely. Care to explain?
 
Like a rabbit in front of headlights when faced with someone with pace.
 
You can't play him at cb in games when we aren't dominating possession, he just can't defend well enough.
 
He works brilliantly at CB against the weaker teams, but against such a fast front four, he is getting annihilated.
 
It's fecking ridiculous to have a luxury player in central defence. He's as much a defender as Dani Alves or Robero Carlos. Nice on the ball but not up to the job description. I want defender who can actually defend.

In fairness, he doesn't do a lot wrong, but nor does he do much right.
 
ivaldo said:
Typical response, gets called out, proof given of this 'compliment' you keep calling it and you ignore the post completely. Care to explain?
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I could try to explain the concept of context to you, but I've suddenly lost the urge to bother to defend myself for some reason... Can't think why that is.
 
Dion said:
I could try to explain the concept of context to you, but I've suddenly lost the urge to bother to defend myself for some reason... Can't think why that is.
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Because you've decided we think he's beyond criticism which isn't the case, he's been poor this half much like the rest of the team (I've said numerous times he needs protection to be effective), it's the nonsense statements like getting bullied by Benteke, still waiting for that response, how is it a compliment? :rolleyes:
 
ivaldo said:
Because you've decided we think he's beyond criticism which isn't the case, he's been poor this half much like the rest of the team, it's the nonsense statements like getting bullied by Benteke, still waiting for that response, how is it a compliment? :rolleyes:
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Like I said, him struggling when we're not defending by keeping the ball doesn't require my defense anymore. Please feel free to keep posting, it's amusing in a very un-amusing situation.
 
Dion said:
Like I said, him struggling when we're not defending by keeping the ball doesn't require my defense anymore. Please feel free to keep posting, it's amusing in a very un-amusing situation.
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Nice side step, again I'll repeat the question for the 4th time, how is this a compliment?
Dion said:
Well, you mean apart from in the first half an hour where Benteke actually went up against him and destroyed him, then somehow inexplicably decided to go up against Smalling instead and got marked out of the game? He also struggled against Spuds, Swansea (very evidently) and PSV. He's also been suspect in wide areas.


Whether you agree or not, it shouldn't have been too difficult to work out. Your snarky tone is even more amusing by your admission.
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Would start Jones against Everton away. Rather play Blind as left back.
 
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