Rojo's seems to be the same, it's not an injury due to him being injury prone, he just fecked himself in a way that even the most robust players could do.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
- 29
- Clean sheets
- 9
- Goals
- 2
- Assists
- 3
- Yellow cards
- 4
It makes far more sense to back LVG, and give him more time due to his record over the past 20 years as a proven top class manager, who's won titles in every country he's ever managed (and who has a notorious history of slow starts with his new clubs) then to back Moyes just because of some misplaced faith in Fergie's ability to pick a successor (especially when he could barely come up with a decent reason for that person). In fact, I'd suggest that backing Moyes just because Fergie said too, and ignoring all sense and reason is/was particularity stupid. As for the argument that LVG spent more money so should do instantly do better, well that is a pretty flawed argument too, as LVG is having to practically build a new squad and first XI, having lost experienced leaders like Vidic, Evra, Rio, Giggs...and all from a team that finished 7th last season. Moyes inherited a team that had just won the league, threw £70 odd million at it, and still finished 7th, while showing no signs of progression.
You were incredibly lenient with Moyes last season, constantly calling for more time and defending him, when most were coming to the realisation that it wasn't working. Now I'm not saying that that is in itself wrong, but to me you're now showing double standards with LVG, as you've been on his back (and far more outspoken then many) with you're little digs and questions. Its quite obvious that you have an agenda, whether intended or not. If there is no agenda, why did you spend so long defending Moyes up until around the latter stages of the season when even you conceded the battle, yet just 11 games into this season seem to be questioning a far more proven manager, and not backing him in the way you did with Moyes?
I think any digs aimed at LvG (something I know I'm guilty of) are rooted in the fact we expect better from him, because of his reputation. It's possible to have faith in the long term, but to criticise performance in the short term.
Basically, we now have the right man in charge, but it's not clicking at the moment - in that situation, you have to give him time. Last season, our manager was a crock of shit - he should've been sacked far earlier.
The thing is, his reputation is for slow starts, I mean he even warned us that it will be a difficult start. Its not like this has come out of the blue. He said the first 3 months will be tough, and so many people just ignored it, and were talking about walking into the top 4, and title challenges. I understand the frustration (I'm frustrated as well), but this isn't an unexpected situation. If things don't start improving by January/February then we should start worrying.
Agreed on the second point. Although I'd go a step further and say he should never have been hired in the first place (something that the majority thought at the time in fairness)
We were warned about his slow starts, but it doesn't really stack up when you look at our fixtures - we drew against Burnley and lost after being 3-1 up against Leicester!
If we're still getting those kind of results come January/February time then I'll be surprised (and worried).
Burnley: this was before we bought our new 1st teamers. I remember at that time we were playing with the likes of Cleverley and Fletcher (who were woeful) and I also remember seeing Anderson make an appearance against MK Dons. This was one of our first games of the season, where our morale/confidence was low due to Moyes. Morale/confidence cannot be lifted by a new manager over a single Summer. It takes time. Since then you can see we are now prepared to fight right until the final whistle. This was not the case at the start of the season.
Leicester: you can't blame the manager. The moment Leicester scored their 2nd goal, our players panicked and started hoofing the ball forward, only for it to come back at them 15 seconds later. We were attempting to park the bus, which simply isnt the LvG way.
Lets also not forget that recently we have been decimated by injuries to first team players. This continues to be the case, so can you really blame LvG?
Something about Blind? 
Handsome bugger though isn't he.
Out of our injured players what ones are that much better than the players that started the Arsenal game? Rafa/Valencia Jones/McNair Blind/Carrick Falcao/RVP? Not much improvement from what I see but I will give you Rojo or Evans over Blackett but would we play with 3 at the back? A lot of smoking mirrors here in my opinion we need 3-4 better players still to come in (transfer market)
I think in tough games that playing both Blind and Carrick would be a great option. Likewise it would have been a major help in dealing with the uncertainty caused by our defensive injuries.
Sure is.
Dammit, stop bumping this thread, I keep thinking there will be another photo of him.
Shaw was injured for most of the game.
Blind was injured.
Falcao (instead of RvP) was injured.
Herrara was injured.
Rojo was injured.
Rafael was injured.
This is half our first team.
With the above players in our team, I believe we would have dominated possession in the Arsenal game.
So yes, with half our first team injured, this will have a huge effect on our results.
Can we talk about Daley Blind please? Lol.
LvG said he was supposed to having a second scan sometime this week right? hope they let out the results to the public quickly..
Out of all our injuries, his depressed me most, hes been so influential in starting our attacks from the back, I thought we missed him against Arsenal, the back 3 & DDG struggled again in finding a reliable ball out from the back.
Out of all our injuries, his depressed me most, hes been so influential in starting our attacks from the back, I thought we missed him against Arsenal, the back 3 & DDG struggled again in finding a reliable ball out from the back.
Where are the pictures?
It'd definitely be good to rest Carrck where possible.
Good news, light at the end of the tunnel. We can't rely on Carrick to play 4 games in 8/9 days. He can't do it anymore.
Fantastic news if true.
That means he would be out for six weeks which was what was originally predicted.
Great news, hopefully once he's back Di Maria, Shaw, Rafael and Jones be back too and it'll be the end of our injury crisis.
This is how I've been thinking on our injury front for the least 2/3 months. We always seem to pick up fresh injuries though. Fingers crossed for the press conference later.
Well to be fair apart from Rafael and Jones the newest injuries of Shaw, Rooney, Di Maria, De Gea, Blind have all been freak type accidents and not from being weak bodies unlike Rafael and Jones. Its just bad luck really, surely it cannot continue to plague us? We actually have good depth in every area of the pitch expect full backs, so the fact that we've relied on youth in some areas is really down to bad luck
Awesome, thanks!
Grr, make a separate injury thread you feckers!
There is one, and I created it. I'll update it now.
Interesting to see if he keeps his place once he's back or if LVG plays only either him or Carrick. Once everyone is fit, our midfield really is getting crowded with good players
Since the squad has settled a lot more now in midfield just as Blind gets injured it could easily be mistaken to credit Carrick for it. I like Blind, he has had a fantastic season prior to injury but I can't help but feel safer with Carrick in front of the back four, maybe like I previously stated its because we're most settled and organised. Will have to play Blind either way over the Xmas period, I'm confident in his abilities to replace Carrick and do just as good of a job.
Sorry for those of you who think I'm bumping this with news.
Any idea when he's back? Carrick has been a good replacement for him, but I really can't wait to see this guy back in the team. I can definitely see him being a starter for the next five/six years for us - similar to Carrick.
Any idea when he's back? Carrick has been a good replacement for him, but I really can't wait to see this guy back in the team. I can definitely see him being a starter for the next five/six years for us - similar to Carrick.
According to PhysioRoom he's back on Boxing Day.
I'm seriously interested in seeing how a Blind-Carrick midfield duo would work. Although the fear is that it could see us shift to the dreaded 3-5-2 on a more permanent basis.
Just too defensive for me, enough dare and creativity.
Yeah, that'd be a formation for tough away days at most, even then when you were trying to close out the game. That said its nice to have the option.
LVG's favorite formation is 4-3-3. If we'll get more more quality players and fully balance the squad 3-5-2 will be only used as an option.
The luxury of having more than one defensive midfielder I suppose!