Cycling 2015 thread.

Great stage win by Nibali.

Froome lost about 30 seconds to Quintana today.

Tomorrow will be epic.
 
Movistar needs to cause some serious havoc on the Croix de Fer tomorrow, if they can exhaust Froome and the rest of Sky, anything is possible on the Alp. If Quintana goes in the beginning of the climb, things could still get interesting. And don't forget that Froome has a bad history on Alpe d'Huez...
 
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Great race today with the contenders finally committing to some attacks. I think it will be too little too late, but it should now at least be a suspenseful finish with Froome and Sky wobbling a bit today.
 
Great race today with the contenders finally committing to some attacks. I think it will be too little too late, but it should now at least be a suspenseful finish with Froome and Sky wobbling a bit today.
Exactly. I don't think Quintana can take over the Yellow, but he can try and with Nibali breaking out yesterday, the top 3 can shift too.

Froome was a bit pissed yesterday with Nibali breaking the moment he had some material struggles. Not sure if I can blame him, but I can understand Nibali too. It is competitive sport after all.
 
everyone keeps citing the Netherlands stage as the difference. surely Froome would not have restrained himself had the gap been closer
 
everyone keeps citing the Netherlands stage as the difference. surely Froome would not have restrained himself had the gap been closer

Froome didn't restrain himseld today.. His teammates had to slow down at times for him to keep up. He seemed empty.. Quintana was one stage away....

The only positive news (for me) is Froome being empty proves he's human, and hopefully all the "cheating" insinuations will stop. I still think what he did on the first mountain stage wasn't human though
 
Froome didn't restrain himseld today.. His teammates had to slow down at times for him to keep up. He seemed empty.. Quintana was one stage away....

The only positive news (for me) is Froome being empty proves he's human, and hopefully all the "cheating" insinuations will stop. I still think what he did on the first mountain stage wasn't human though
not today certainly, but earlier stages in the race.
yeah, please stop those dopey cheaty piss-taking. turns out Nairo is as much a X-man as Chris, surely??
 
I enjoy the rides. Cant bother about drugs before anything is proved. It will come out sooner or later if they are cheating.
If it worries you so much, then you shouldn't probably watch this.

didn't but for 5 minutes near the finish , nice scenery. i think you need to be on drugs to ride that far that quick. so like i said it's all part of the tour.
 
not today certainly, but earlier stages in the race.
yeah, please stop those dopey cheaty piss-taking. turns out Nairo is as much a X-man as Chris, surely??

They probably all are. The problem is Sky constantly saying how clean they are, when they have been repeatedly been caught lying, and being associated with the same people the others are.

Also, there was a big difference between Froome and Quintana today.. Froome was one man destroying the world. Quintana used his whole team and Valverde.
 
They probably all are. The problem is Sky constantly saying how clean they are, when they have been repeatedly been caught lying, and being associated with the same people the others are.

Also, there was a big difference between Froome and Quintana today.. Froome was one man destroying the world. Quintana used his whole team and Valverde.
just to correct, in stage 10, Porte came second and Thomas came fifth or sixth something, Froome definitely had his temmates there. Really no difference between the two afa I'm aware...
 
I dont really follow cycling that much.
I have to ask why the spitting and accusations of doping about Froome, is there any truth in it?
Has cycling not cleaned its act up after Armstrong ?
Having piss thrown at him and spat at is pretty nasty.
 
I hope Froome wins it and sticks two fingers up at the scum who've been spitting at him.
 
I hope Froome wins it and sticks two fingers up at the scum who've been spitting at him.
I dont really follow cycling that much.
I have to ask why the spitting and accusations of doping about Froome, is there any truth in it?
Has cycling not cleaned its act up after Armstrong ?
Having piss thrown at him and spat at is pretty nasty.

There are those who won't let go of the past, will quote all sorts of power data and the like to undermine Sky's efforts. Needless to say these allegations were absent last year when Sky weren't winning ( in the tour at least). I guess it should be of no surprise when teams like Astana have riders getting caught left, right and centre. But any one who follows cycling and especially Sky should know that this team really is led by people , Brailsford in particular who abhor cheating. Until there is hard evidence I refuse to get caught up in it. Horner of Vuelta fame (is probably the only time I thought, no way, and even then there is no evidence behind my doubts.....Riders like GT are not amateurs, they have true pedigree , but i can understand peoples doubts, but to vocalise them as if they were true -i find a tad disrespectful to say the least. Sky with the rumoured imminent signings of Landa etc will only get stronger..
 
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tbf, it's some great tactics......Team Sky went balls to the walls when the others weren't anywhere near ready for the effort to keep up......Team Sky while somewhat gassed, were prepared for the attacks to counter that....and kept them to a minimum. Nairo is so clearly a future winner though, I'm not gonna say bad tactics cost him....getting so much time up d'Huez was insane and he was fully up for that....I guess he needed Froome isolated though.

Anyone have his time yet? Got it. 39.23, beat his PB, and now the best for "unofficial" clean ride beating out Indurain......
 
I dont really follow cycling that much.
I have to ask why the spitting and accusations of doping about Froome, is there any truth in it?
Has cycling not cleaned its act up after Armstrong ?
Having piss thrown at him and spat at is pretty nasty.

I think its extremely unlikely theyre clean, but it doesn't bother me. One thing that is certain and can be seen in their power outputs compared to previous generations, is that if they are taking anything, it is not as effective as it once was. In cycling it has never been one man getting an advantage from it anyway, its all of them. So long as theyre all competing on a level playing field i dont mind what they do.
 
just to correct, in stage 10, Porte came second and Thomas came fifth or sixth something, Froome definitely had his temmates there. Really no difference between the two afa I'm aware...

Correct. But they just paced. Quintana USED Valverde and all his boys in the breakaway. Big difference.
 
Froome didn't restrain himself today.. His teammates had to slow down at times for him to keep up. He seemed empty.. Quintana was one stage away....

The only positive news (for me) is Froome being empty proves he's human, and hopefully all the "cheating" insinuations will stop. I still think what he did on the first mountain stage wasn't human though

That's bollocks. The evidence is that it wasn't superhuman. Froome doesn't have anything that sticks on him to suggest he has doped. If it would have been Nibali or Contador nobody would have battered an eye lid.
Unlike many of the other competitors. No, failed tests, rumours, eyewitness', etc. I'm not say he hasn't doped, I guess you can't trust any cyclist. But there's no evidence to suggest he's doped.
 
That's bollocks. The evidence is that it wasn't superhuman. Froome doesn't have anything that sticks on him to suggest he has doped. If it would have been Nibali or Contador nobody would have battered an eye lid.
Unlike many of the other competitors. No, failed tests, rumours, eyewitness', etc. I'm not say he hasn't doped, I guess you can't trust any cyclist. But there's no evidence to suggest he's doped.
Indeed. It's still very sad that statements like "You can't trust any cyclist." exist in the sport though, but I guess it has always been that way.

Another thing: Should we change this topic into the general cycling topic maybe?
 
Cycling has earned the suspicious but if you can't treat riders as clean until proven otherwise, and treat everyone as suspects, whats the point of following the sport anyway?
 
That's bollocks. The evidence is that it wasn't superhuman. Froome doesn't have anything that sticks on him to suggest he has doped. If it would have been Nibali or Contador nobody would have battered an eye lid.
Unlike many of the other competitors. No, failed tests, rumours, eyewitness', etc. I'm not say he hasn't doped, I guess you can't trust any cyclist. But there's no evidence to suggest he's doped.

Let's compare his times up some mountains against proven dopers. Do the math.
 
Let's compare his times up some mountains against proven dopers. Do the math.

That's a fallacy. You can't compare one race to another. The elements are different in every race and over the past 5 years the mountain stages in the TdF are less gruelling than before.
 
That's a fallacy. You can't compare one race to another. The elements are different in every race and over the past 5 years the mountain stages in the TdF are less gruelling than before.
Yeah, no two races are the same. Even when you take two stages that are exactly the same, weather and such will have an influence on the stage anyways.