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So why would Real get rid if it's such a no brainer?
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So why would Real get rid if it's such a no brainer?
He's not got 4 years left at the top. I think there's a lot of wishful thinking in here.
I guess it'd be like signing RvP, only twice as expensive and a year younger.
I don't want us to sign Ronaldo, but I also didn't want us to sign RvP. He'll undoubtedly do well for at least a couple years but he's already been here and had his chance, I'd rather we sign someone else.
In RVP we already signed that player. Another world class, impact player to take us up a notch. Don't think we'll get another one in the summer at those prices.
I guess it'd be like signing RvP, only twice as expensive and a year younger.
I don't want us to sign Ronaldo, but I also didn't want us to sign RvP which I was obviously wrong about. He'll undoubtedly do well for at least a couple years but he's already been here and had his chance, I'd rather we sign someone else.
Why not? You think SAF is the sort of manager who will go "ah we already have one class player, I don't need another!". If he thinks Ronaldo would be worth the investment for what he'd provide then I'm sure he'd go for it.
I reckon we would buy him if we weren't saddled with debt. Lets face it a CM is a far more pressing concern and I can't see us spending £75 million odd in a summer.
I reckon he has. Its like the Van Persie transfer, despite the potential negatives, if the opportunity is there we would take it in a heartbeat.
I also don't think he would be worth the investment.
Yeah, we've spent so little on players in the last two Summers after all!
In this hypothetical are we getting him for a ludicrously knock-down price, like we did with RVP? If so then yes, clearly its worth it. But if it means breaking the bank then it probably isnt.
In RVP we already signed that player. Another world class, impact player to take us up a notch. Don't think we'll get another one in the summer at those prices.
No, Persie's best is in front of him due to the fact he'd been sidelined early on his career, and where as Ronaldo has been on speed for the last decade. Classic case of potential burn out. And again please let's not use Giggs as example, we didn't buy a 29 year old Giggs for the price of a small nation.
We haven't spent £75 million which is Chelsea/City territory and we've also regularly sold players. I can't be arsed to look it up but I doubt our net spend has ever been higher than £50 million.
Ronaldo is not just world class though. He is a all timer plus would atleast recoup 20 % of that transfer fee in terms of commercial revenue boost. And if he wins us things that may be worth more.
Plus RVP has been a lot more injury prone in his career than Ronnie.
It's not just £55m. He'll be 28.5 years old when he comes here and would at least sign a 4 year contract at around £225k/wk. Which takes the cost of the overall package over £100m. That is very risky for a player at his age, and whose game is very dependent on pace and sudden acceleration.
Also, I don't get the marketing machine logic. He is not going to open any new markets for us. Our major revenues come from:
(1) Gate Receipts
(2) Television Revenues
(3) Commercial deals
The affect on gate revenues will be minimal and the TV revenues are fixed. As for the commercial side, we have already signed the shirt sponsorship deal with Chevy, so that's fixed. I think the contract with Nike is up for renewal, so we might be able to negotiate a better deal with them. The rest I don't think he will make any major difference.
No, Persie's best is in front of him due to fact he'd been sidelined earlier on his career, and where as Ronaldo has been on speed for the last decade. Classic case of potential burn out. And again please let's not use Giggs as example, we didn't buy a 29 year old Giggs for the price of a small nation.
There's no way of knowing if RvP's best is in front of him, he could very easily begin getting regular injuries again like he always has. I still cringe every time he goes to the ground.
I do agree with your points in general though.
Isnt it a bit more "The United Way" to identify the next 16-19 year old wonderkid, bring him here and develop him into something amazing, all for a relatively inexpensive < £20m? Rather than trying to re-live the past and spending an absolute fortune in the process?
I think Fergie is smarter than you are giving him credit for.
From all my years of following United, if I have understood Fergie correctly, this move will never happen.
Exactly, like Nani and Ander... oh wait.
Isnt it a bit more "The United Way" to identify the next 16-19 year old wonderkid, bring him here and develop him into something amazing, all for a relatively inexpensive < £20m? Rather than trying to re-live the past and spending an absolute fortune in the process?
I never used Giggs as an example before. Can't agree, I just don't see it. We would be paying for guaranteed quality, he's not just going to burn out in the next few years, at least we aren't seeing any signs of that right now. Van Persie was a much higher risk than Ronaldo is now, given his huge prior injury history, obviously he costs half the amount but I'd see the same sort of value in a move because he's just that good.
Well, like Ronaldo. And like we are doing with Jones, Smalling, Da Silva, Hernandez etc. And yes, tried to do with Anderson. And Bebe. Clearly it doesnt always work. But the pattern is clear, in terms of club strategy.
Well, like Ronaldo. And like we are doing with Jones, Smalling, Da Silva, Hernandez etc. And yes, tried to do with Anderson. And Bebe. Clearly it doesnt always work. But the pattern is clear, in terms of club strategy.
Heh, it was more so the <20m thing, seeing as Anderson was €30m.
We've spent an absolute fortune on youngsters too throughout the years.
Well, like Ronaldo. And like we are doing with Jones, Smalling, Da Silva, Hernandez etc. And yes, tried to do with Anderson. And Bebe. Clearly it doesnt always work. But the pattern is clear, in terms of club strategy.
So why would Real get rid if it's such a no brainer?
Or conversely if you haven't understood him correctly, it will ?