Cristiano Ronaldo

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I guess it'd be like signing RvP, only twice as expensive and a year younger.

I don't want us to sign Ronaldo, but I also didn't want us to sign RvP which I was obviously wrong about. He'll undoubtedly do well for at least a couple years but he's already been here and had his chance, I'd rather we sign someone else.
 
I guess it'd be like signing RvP, only twice as expensive and a year younger.

I don't want us to sign Ronaldo, but I also didn't want us to sign RvP. He'll undoubtedly do well for at least a couple years but he's already been here and had his chance, I'd rather we sign someone else.

In RVP we already signed that player. Another world class, impact player to take us up a notch. Don't think we'll get another one in the summer at those prices.
 
In RVP we already signed that player. Another world class, impact player to take us up a notch. Don't think we'll get another one in the summer at those prices.

Why not? You think SAF is the sort of manager who will go "ah we already have one class player, I don't need another!". If he thinks Ronaldo would be worth the investment for what he'd provide then I'm sure he'd go for it.
 
I reckon we would buy him if we weren't saddled with debt. Lets face it a CM is a far more pressing concern and I can't see us spending £75 million odd in a summer.
 
I guess it'd be like signing RvP, only twice as expensive and a year younger.

I don't want us to sign Ronaldo, but I also didn't want us to sign RvP which I was obviously wrong about. He'll undoubtedly do well for at least a couple years but he's already been here and had his chance, I'd rather we sign someone else.

He'll kick himself for walking away and will learn from the experience and will no doubt try a lot harder next time he has a similar opportunity.
 
Why not? You think SAF is the sort of manager who will go "ah we already have one class player, I don't need another!". If he thinks Ronaldo would be worth the investment for what he'd provide then I'm sure he'd go for it.

I also don't think he would be worth the investment.
 
I reckon we would buy him if we weren't saddled with debt. Lets face it a CM is a far more pressing concern and I can't see us spending £75 million odd in a summer.

Yeah, we've spent so little on players in the last two Summers after all!
 
I reckon he has. Its like the Van Persie transfer, despite the potential negatives, if the opportunity is there we would take it in a heartbeat.

No, Persie's best is in front of him due to the fact he'd been sidelined early on his career, where as Ronaldo has been on speed for the last decade. Classic case of potential burn out. And again please let's not use Giggs as an example, we didn't buy a 29 year old Giggs for the price of a small nation.
 
Yeah, we've spent so little on players in the last two Summers after all!

We haven't spent £75 million which is Chelsea/City territory and we've also regularly sold players. I can't be arsed to look it up but I doubt our net spend has ever been higher than £50 million.
 
In RVP we already signed that player. Another world class, impact player to take us up a notch. Don't think we'll get another one in the summer at those prices.

Ronaldo is not just world class though. He is a all timer plus would atleast recoup 20 % of that transfer fee in terms of commercial revenue boost. And if he wins us things that may be worth more.

Plus RVP has been a lot more injury prone in his career than Ronnie.
 
No, Persie's best is in front of him due to the fact he'd been sidelined early on his career, and where as Ronaldo has been on speed for the last decade. Classic case of potential burn out. And again please let's not use Giggs as example, we didn't buy a 29 year old Giggs for the price of a small nation.

There's no way of knowing if RvP's best is in front of him, he could very easily begin getting regular injuries again like he always has. I still cringe every time he goes to the ground.

I do agree with your points in general though.
 
We haven't spent £75 million which is Chelsea/City territory and we've also regularly sold players. I can't be arsed to look it up but I doubt our net spend has ever been higher than £50 million.

We'll probably sell players this Summer too though. I'm sure the money is there. We wanted Hazard and Lucas last Summer, if we bought either of them then we would've spent 70m+! We also just spunked 15m on Zaha.
 
Ronaldo is not just world class though. He is a all timer plus would atleast recoup 20 % of that transfer fee in terms of commercial revenue boost. And if he wins us things that may be worth more.

Plus RVP has been a lot more injury prone in his career than Ronnie.

He is an all-timer, who will be 28.5 years old when he joins us. He left us once as he didn't think we, Manchester United, could fulfill his ambitions and he needed to go to Spain to take his career to the next level.

As for the commercial aspect, I'll quote me post from the last page:

It's not just £55m. He'll be 28.5 years old when he comes here and would at least sign a 4 year contract at around £225k/wk. Which takes the cost of the overall package over £100m. That is very risky for a player at his age, and whose game is very dependent on pace and sudden acceleration.

Also, I don't get the marketing machine logic. He is not going to open any new markets for us. Our major revenues come from:

(1) Gate Receipts
(2) Television Revenues
(3) Commercial deals

The affect on gate revenues will be minimal and the TV revenues are fixed. As for the commercial side, we have already signed the shirt sponsorship deal with Chevy, so that's fixed. I think the contract with Nike is up for renewal, so we might be able to negotiate a better deal with them. The rest I don't think he will make any major difference.
 
No, Persie's best is in front of him due to fact he'd been sidelined earlier on his career, and where as Ronaldo has been on speed for the last decade. Classic case of potential burn out. And again please let's not use Giggs as example, we didn't buy a 29 year old Giggs for the price of a small nation.

I never used Giggs as an example before. Can't agree, I just don't see it. We would be paying for guaranteed quality, he's not just going to burn out in the next few years, at least we aren't seeing any signs of that right now. I reckon he will still be banging in obscene amounts of goals by that time. Van Persie was a much higher risk than Ronaldo is now, given his huge prior injury history, obviously he costs about half the amount but I'd see the same sort of value in a move because he's just that good, well, better even.
 
There's no way of knowing if RvP's best is in front of him, he could very easily begin getting regular injuries again like he always has. I still cringe every time he goes to the ground.

I do agree with your points in general though.

Yes but his injuries weren't career threatening, was just a case of bad luck. I'm sure Pete and the Gooners would echoe that.
 
Isnt it a bit more "The United Way" to identify the next 16-19 year old wonderkid, bring him here and develop him into something amazing, all for a relatively inexpensive < £20m? Rather than trying to re-live the past and spending an absolute fortune in the process?
 
Btw, don't get why people think he will have to adapt into a different role either. In that role he plays currently even after 3/4 years the only thing he will lose is his blistering pace on the counter, and probably some of his spring. But still he'll be a damn good header of the ball, have a very good shot on him, and his movement will still be top notch.

He doesn't take on as many players as he used to anyway, but still he has pretty good dribbling skills to beat a man. And it's not like he was asked to run around all over the place in terms of how we set up in his last 2 successful years here or at Madrid.
 
Isnt it a bit more "The United Way" to identify the next 16-19 year old wonderkid, bring him here and develop him into something amazing, all for a relatively inexpensive < £20m? Rather than trying to re-live the past and spending an absolute fortune in the process?

Exactly, like Nani and Ander... oh wait.
 
feck all the logistics, just think about a front three of Ronaldo-RVP-Rooney with all of them interchanging :drool:
 
Isnt it a bit more "The United Way" to identify the next 16-19 year old wonderkid, bring him here and develop him into something amazing, all for a relatively inexpensive < £20m? Rather than trying to re-live the past and spending an absolute fortune in the process?

This is basically my main objection to the hypothetical transfer. I'd rather we invested in younger talent and develope them rather than spend a fortune on a 28 year old who will likely decline significantly once he loses his physical attributes. Like I said earlier, Ronaldo already had his chance here, I'd rather we move on.
 
I never used Giggs as an example before. Can't agree, I just don't see it. We would be paying for guaranteed quality, he's not just going to burn out in the next few years, at least we aren't seeing any signs of that right now. Van Persie was a much higher risk than Ronaldo is now, given his huge prior injury history, obviously he costs half the amount but I'd see the same sort of value in a move because he's just that good.

Again, I think Persie's injury record was overplayed. And we'd be paying through the roof for short term guaranteed success. Not our style. But anyway this debate is futile, you think he won't burn out and I am confident he'll burn out and won't be the same player when he hits 30.
 
Well, like Ronaldo. And like we are doing with Jones, Smalling, Da Silva, Hernandez etc. And yes, tried to do with Anderson. And Bebe. Clearly it doesnt always work. But the pattern is clear, in terms of club strategy.

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Well, like Ronaldo. And like we are doing with Jones, Smalling, Da Silva, Hernandez etc. And yes, tried to do with Anderson. And Bebe. Clearly it doesnt always work. But the pattern is clear, in terms of club strategy.

Heh, it was more so the <20m thing, seeing as Anderson was €30m.

We've spent an absolute fortune on youngsters too throughout the years.
 
Anyway the price in the article mentioned is just about correct. He isn't willing to sign a contract. His contract will be up in 2015. Real Madrid face a hit of nearly 15-20m if they don't let him leave this summer.

Plus Mourinho(Ronaldo's biggest ally at the club) is also leaving the club.
 
Heh, it was more so the <20m thing, seeing as Anderson was €30m.

We've spent an absolute fortune on youngsters too throughout the years.

30m Euros at that time was 18m pounds at that time because the Euro was weak.
 
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Well, like Ronaldo. And like we are doing with Jones, Smalling, Da Silva, Hernandez etc. And yes, tried to do with Anderson. And Bebe. Clearly it doesnt always work. But the pattern is clear, in terms of club strategy.

Exactly.
 
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