You haven't heard the end of it, it will be the excuse thrown around for another million years I'm sure.Must be because of injury he had million years ago
Gotta get out quick before everyone gets into how Messi was still better than Ronaldo.
Cristiano Ronaldo
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Gotta get out quick before everyone gets into how Messi was still better than Ronaldo.
There is difference between there being players being better than him and he being worst. I won't classify him as worst in RM team. In fact, no one was because it was great team effort and in that performance it is totally pointless to search for worst performer. I thought there were quite a few players in their team who had better game but a)he wasn't worst b)didn't have that bad a game. First half he was good and 2nd half instead of trying to pass he should have had shots himself instead, something which he is better at. Still to classify it as 'shit' performance is exaggeration when he was key in their counters, as with few others.
Nonsense.
Carvajal
Ramos
Marcelo
Modric
Kroos
James
Benzema
Isco
were all decidedly better. Maybe Pepe was worse but he improved in the 2nd half.
Nonsense.
Carvajal
Ramos
Marcelo
Modric
Kroos
James
Benzema
Isco
were all decidedly better. Maybe Pepe was worse but he improved in the 2nd half.
You could add Casillas in there.
Even Casillas was better than Ronaldo tonight.
Ah I see
Yup. tbf even with his awful game today, overall Messi is still at different level than all footballers bar one by thin margins, just like it was the other way round for 3-4 or so years before last season. That bit is obvious so to me BOTH are among the best ever for the seasons they have had for last 7-8 years.
At least Ronaldo is better than Messi tonight.
Him and Messi were just useless.
Ronaldo was poor today. His passing was off. A madrid fan (Vato) has no qualms admitting that. But United fans on redcafe do. Strange.
I have to agree with that, Ronaldo wasnt as bad as Messi tonight, Messi had zero effect on the game.... both were poor tho.
Must be because of injury he had million years ago
You are obsessed with Messi more than his fanboys.
Both were a bit pointless. Penalty apart obviously. Ronaldo made strange decisions and poor passes in the final third where there was so much space at times. Messi lacked the spark that he's had in precious classicos.
Seemed Ancelotti deployed a concerted strategy to not over rely on Ronaldo, to mitigate Barca's expected approach of not allowing him to run rough shot over their defense. Seems like the diversification of play worked out very well for Madrid in the end.
Agreed. Not much between them, Real Madrid were easily the better team though so no point slagging off Cristiano.
I would say same about you and few others in case of Ronaldo
See my other post about him where I talk of fine margins and then decide for yourself.
I would say same about you and few others in case of Ronaldo
See my other post about him where I talk of fine margins and then decide for yourself.
Well I haven't been in this thread for few months talking about Ronaldo, and especially not in Messi's thread talking about Ronaldo like you are doing all the tim, so I have no idea what are you on about.
I have grand total of 8 posts in Messi thread out of 15k+ posts, so I have no idea what are you on about.
There have been other Classico's where Ronaldo was better. This was not the only one. That said, Ronaldo was not particularly great tonight. Then again he didn't have to be in order to have been better than Messi or for Madrid to have won.
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Cristiano played more of a supporting role today rather than constantly going for goal himself. The attitude of the entire team was different and I honestly prefer them this way. They're extremely productive.
Good game from him and his teammates. His movements scared Barca's defence, constantly stretching them with his pace. He scored a goal, and heavily involved in Madrid's 3rd goal. He also took out 2 of Barca's markers with his high jump, that left Pepe had a completely free header. There's one of his pass where Marcelo screwed up, that otherwise 3 against 2 CBs. He could have a few more, if he's being more selfish, though.
To say that he's as bad as any of Barca's attacker is showing a lack of unbiased opinion.
To say that he's as bad as any of Barca's attacker is showing a lack of unbiased opinion.
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Business as usual for Cristiano.
If Benzema could finish, he would have at least bagged one assist. His teammates don't finish the chances Ronaldo makes for them. If he did his assists would be up there.
Nevertheless, another goal. Too easy for the monster.
If Benzema could finish, he would have at least bagged one assist. His teammates don't finish the chances Ronaldo makes for them. If he did his assists would be up there.
Nevertheless, another goal. Too easy for the monster.
My point was that you are quite often in Ronaldo's thread talking about Messi as quick search confirms it.
Imagine being this strange that you can't even admit when a player, who doesn't even play for your team has a bad game. Lucky for Barca he was shit as well because it could of ended up about 6 if he was his usual self.
He´s probably answering to a certain group of people that bring him up all the time here
He was decent I though:7/10. But almost everyone else in the Madrid team was an 8/10.
What can I do? Ronaldo haters like you are more interested in bringing Messi in discussion and proving how he is lot better and then I want to laugh but I post instead.
Nah, he is just too obssesed with Ronaldo and he takes every situation to tickle Messi even in this thread. He reminds me of schoolboys I quite often hear near my place with their kid jokes about Ronaldo and Messi like: " Can Messi finish his dinner without Iniesta?" and things like that.
He put the frighteners into Barcelona with his off ball movement and pace, always available. Final pass was well off, but that's the best i've ever seen play as a team player. Always involved in every Real counter attack too.
We should all just enjoy and masturbate to Ronaldo playing and never criticise him again. No one should even post about him if it's not post like this:"Wow, he is great, look how beautiful he is".
Well I think he only has 3 objectives in this match: 1. Win the match 2. Outscored Messi 3. Scored at least a goal. Given his unselfish play throughout I don't think it really matter to him if many of his teammates outshine him. He even celebrated over his teammates goals today.
If that was shit then what have our players been for the last 2 years?
He delivered some great crosses and a couple that should have been converted. If he had a goal and an assist would you still say he was shit? Look I understand Cristiano has set inhuman standards for himself. He was subpar tonight, but even when he's subpar he still scores a goal.
Monster.
I thought he did quite well 7/10, if he was more ruthless as per he would have had 2 or 3 but he decided to play teammates in while i promising positions. In comparisons to his traditional big game performances his did well. He was constantly involved as caused problems for the opposition. More performances like these while taking the chances he usually does the better for me.
Not derailing the thread any further, the discussion will no doubt resurface elsewhere - just had to step in and give Skorenzy due credit for his excellent post, as I forgot to do so earlier today.
That is all - carry on.
Agree with most posters that he wasn't particularly good especially compared to most of his team mates, however he was very involved and tried often to create chances for them (mostly through crosses in the 1st half and passes into space in the 2nd half) but he lacked the telling accuracy apart from one instance where Benzema hit the bar. 7/10 seems about right though, a very good collective performance too. I was especially impressed with Dani Carvajal.
If any game has ever epitomized why Cristiano's passing and/or vision aren't considered the stuff of all-time greatness it was this one... he had the opportunity and the will to set his team mates up many times, sometimes in very advantageous situations, but got it wrong too often (and these weren't even particularly difficult instances). Furthermore, his 60% passing accuracy was the lowest of anyone on the pitch. That one chance he created (while it was a pretty good cross) isn't going to change the fact that he squandered significantly more of his team's attacks than his team mates did.
Re: the bold, I can believe that! Especially when the opp. DF is trying his utmost best to concede a pen like Piqué had been doing
If any game has ever epitomized why Cristiano's passing and/or vision aren't considered the stuff of all-time greatness it was this one... he had the opportunity and the will to set his team mates up many times, sometimes in very advantageous situations, but got it wrong too often (and these weren't even particularly difficult instances). Furthermore, his 60% passing accuracy was the lowest of anyone on the pitch. That one chance he created (while it was a pretty good cross) isn't going to change the fact that he squandered significantly more of his team's attacks than his team mates did.
Re: the bold, I can believe that! Especially when the opp. DF is trying his utmost best to concede a pen like Piqué had been doing
7 out of 10 for what exactly?
Stats like this taken out of context show why stats alone often dont give a true picture.Agree with most posters that he wasn't particularly good especially compared to most of his team mates, however he was very involved and tried often to create chances for them (mostly through crosses in the 1st half and passes into space in the 2nd half) but he lacked the telling accuracy apart from one instance where Benzema hit the bar. 7/10 seems about right though, a very good collective performance too. I was especially impressed with Dani Carvajal.
If any game has ever epitomized why Cristiano's passing and/or vision aren't considered the stuff of all-time greatness it was this one... he had the opportunity and the will to set his team mates up many times, sometimes in very advantageous situations, but got it wrong too often (and these weren't even particularly difficult instances). Furthermore, his 60% passing accuracy was the lowest of anyone on the pitch. That one chance he created (while it was a pretty good cross) isn't going to change the fact that he squandered significantly more of his team's attacks than his team mates did.
Re: the bold, I can believe that! Especially when the opp. DF is trying his utmost best to concede a pen like Piqué had been doing
Im not defending Ronaldo here, I am making a point about using stats in isolation. Firstly, strikers and players in the attacking third generally have the weaker passing stats. More risks are taken and play generally speeds up in the danger areas so its more common for passing stats and decision making to weaken. Also the teams playing style will have an impact on passing stats in the final third. Short passing teams will have better passing stats in the final third than teams who play on the counter or use wingers more or play longer balls.
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