FC Ronaldo
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679 goals total now.
What a player.
679 goals total now.
Do we think Ronaldo will change the narrative on what age we say players are done by? I think Ibrahimovic set the precedent for this and now we are seeing Ronaldo at 34 still undoubtedly one of the top 2 players in the world. It used to be that at 30 you were looking to retirement, but Ronaldo is by quite a distance the best player on his team and showing no signs of aging whatsoever. I think he and Ibra need to be studied and set as the target for players to aspire to physically.
We have to keep in mind him and Ibra still are exceptions.
But are they? Maybe it's perception but I have a feeling that more and more top players remain top until "high" age. Ribery, Robben, Modric, Alonso, David Silva, Iniesta, Pirlo just to name a few.
Or in other words, which absolute top player in the last years was really "done" when turning 31, 32 (and not because of inbjuries)? Maybe Rooney and Müller but apart from that, I can't really remember anyone. Sure, they declined physically but apart from that, it seems like many players actually peaked aged 31/32.
Ok enlarge a bit the list but its not the norm still to be at top with their age.But are they? Maybe it's perception but I have a feeling that more and more top players remain top until "high" age. Ribery, Robben, Modric, Alonso, David Silva, Iniesta, Pirlo just to name a few.
Or in other words, which absolute top player in the last years was really "done" when turning 31, 32 (and not because of inbjuries)? Maybe Rooney and Müller but apart from that, I can't really remember anyone. Sure, they declined physically but apart from that, it seems like many players actually peaked aged 31/32.
Ok enlarge a bit the list but its not the norm still to be at top with their age.
Forgot to mention 2 retired players. Giggs and Scholes. I doubt Ronaldo will be at the same level they were when he reaches 35/36 but we will see.I think it’ll become the new norm soon, that football goes from being a 15 year career to a 20 year one.
That’s fine. We beat them on away goalsWhenever I read the title of this thread, I keep thinking if We are going to have a match vs Juventus not PSG.
Forgot to mention 2 retired players. Giggs and Scholes. I doubt Ronaldo will be at the same level they were when he reaches 35/36 but we will see.
Probably one of the least likable players of all time.
And Giggs or Scholes with 35 or 36 weren't playing at a very good level? I know Ronaldo will play after 35 or 36, what I don't know is if he can keep this level at Juventus after 2020. Just a prediction.Really? Giggs and Scholes though still plying their trade at a top club were rotational players at 35/36. Ronaldo is 34 now and arguably the best player in the world. So unless his ability declines substantially in the next 2 years, he should still at the very least be an important squad member at Juventus...more so that he's their highest earner by far on a 4 year contract.
And Giggs or Scholes with 35 or 36 weren't playing at a very good level? I know Ronaldo will play after 35 or 36, what I don't know is if he can keep this level at Juventus after 2020. Just a prediction.
Really? Giggs and Scholes though still plying their trade at a top club were rotational players at 35/36. Ronaldo is 34 now and arguably the best player in the world. So unless his ability declines substantially in the next 2 years, he should still at the very least be an important squad member at Juventus...more so that he's their highest earner by far on a 4 year contract.
Ronaldo isn’t even close to being the best player in the world right now.
I have some doubts he currently is top 3 or 5 but that's not important now.I'm not disputing that. I'm saying that they were rotational players at 35/36 even though they played at a high level. Ronaldo is several notches above that at 34 (top 2 in the world) so i'd be surprised if he wasn't playing at least at the level they were when they were 35/36 when he's also that age.
Ronaldo isn’t even close to being the best player in the world right now.
There’s not that many individual seasons to match his to be fair. Who’s standing out for you above him?
Messi by a country mile this season. He’s been absolutely sublime. It’s not even close.
It also has to be acknowledged that Serie A is a tier below. Not saying Ronnie hasn’t had a great season, but he’s not even been close to Messi this time around. Huge gulf.
Messi by a country mile this season. He’s been absolutely sublime. It’s not even close.
It also has to be acknowledged that Serie A is a tier below. Not saying Ronnie hasn’t had a great season, but he’s not even been close to Messi this time around. Huge gulf.
I don’t think you’d find too many who would disagree. But the fact that he’s still probably the second best (in my opinion it’s not up for debate) is remarkable. He is visibly more effective on a football pitch than everyone else in the world bar one little genius.
I think the pragmatic defensive style of Juve hurts Ronaldos scoring chances but he can still easily bank them in and will prob hit close to 30 in the Serie A.
Dont think he has lost a step at all in fact I would argue he is playing better for Juve than he has for the last 2 years in Madrid. If Juve were more of an attacking team Ronnie would still bang in 50 but with the way Juve play I think 40 will be his mark. Still his first season at Juve keep in mind he is still learning a new league and style
Still the best player in the world for me but I Will admit Messi has been the better of the two this season.
I agree which is why IF they somehow won the CL it would be a ridiculous feat.I think beyond Juve's style is the issue of their midfield. They've had the worst midfield in years this season. Ronaldo has to work with the likes of Matuidi who can barely control a football to save his life (even though he covers the distance of 2 players); a past it Khedira; a painfully average Emre Can who isn't even considered a midfield player by his national team; a still developing Bentancur and a below-par Pjanic. None of these guys are technicians of any sort apart from Pjanic who hasn't been himself at all this year and when he doesn't play, they look lost in the middle of the park. It makes Ronaldo's life and the life of the other forwards very difficult even against the minnows of Serie A as the team just can't orchestrate play. It's one of the reasons Dybala has only registered 2 league goals this season as he's playing deeper than ever/coming short to collect the ball since the midfield is simply incapable of bring play forward or retaining the ball/dictating the tempo of the game to any degree. All of the big clubs around Europe have a better midfield than Juve. Even the likes of Liverpool, Chelsea and United I'd argue. Probably even Napoli with 1/3 of Juve's budget have a better midfield. Beyond even all this is Allegri's tactics which have been atrocious. Cumulatively, all these factors make Ronaldo's numbers even more stupendous. He's having the best ever debut start to a Juventus season in the history of the club.
I'm 99% sure if he was still at Madrid, he'd have 10+ goals more than he currently has.
P.s. I personally don't take Juve seriously as a genuine CL contender. I'd be surprised if they beat Atletico.
Probably one of the least likable players of all time.
But are they? Maybe it's perception but I have a feeling that more and more top players remain top until "high" age. Ribery, Robben, Modric, Alonso, David Silva, Iniesta, Pirlo just to name a few.
Or in other words, which absolute top player in the last years was really "done" when turning 31, 32 (and not because of inbjuries)? Maybe Rooney and Müller but apart from that, I can't really remember anyone. Sure, they declined physically but apart from that, it seems like many players actually peaked aged 31/32.
The last thing I want to ask him. Please never more on your life go and watch us play. We already have a crap team we don't need you there to be present watching the other club spanking us.
Ronaldo has 950+ games on his legs for his whole career, he's been a regular starter for a top team since 2003. Take a look at this list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_footballers_with_the_most_official_appearances
By the end of next season he'll have played more games than the likes of Giggs or Maldini. He's already played 150+ more football matches than Scholes ever did for example.
He'll most likely end up as the outfield player with most appearances in football history as long as he stays injury free for a few more years.
This is why I usually take the excuse of players burning out by their late 20s ala Torres, Rooney, Owen etc with a slight grain of salt. I always think about Ronaldo who played far more games than any of these guys both as a youth, in his prime and also post-prime and at the very highest level - usually 90 minutes every game as he never gets subbed while the others likely got subbed in the majority of their appearances. But maybe I'm being unfair comparing them to Ronaldo who's body is seemingly supernatural.
In actuality, it doesn't really make sense how his legs have held up this long with all things added up. And they haven't just about held up, it's like they're almost brand new at times. He's not a GK - he plays in one of the most physically demanding positions on the pitch that require regular sprints and quick bursts of acceleration. Wingers and generally fast explosive players lose a great deal of their edge earlier/quicker than other players. The position and role he plays is also the riskiest in terms of injury - particularly his role at United where he was a winger and took on players. He was the most fouled player in the premier league when it was probably more physical than it is now and as a youngster. You would think all the kicks and hacks would've taken a toll, yet he was almost never injured. His physical endurance and invulnerability is almost a medical marvel.