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What a shock that he’s been found out without that Madrid squad around him. No goals so far in a pub league. Juve have done the double 4 years running so unless they do the treble this season it proves he’s not in that elite calibre.
Hopefully joking around, but idiocy knows no bounds, so perhaps you're serious. If so, everything about that comment is frightfully daft.
 
What a shock that he’s been found out without that Madrid squad around him. No goals so far in a pub league. Juve have done the double 4 years running so unless they do the treble this season it proves he’s not in that elite calibre.
If this comment is serious he deserves an automatic ban for saying something this stupid.
 
What a shock that he’s been found out without that Madrid squad around him. No goals so far in a pub league. Juve have done the double 4 years running so unless they do the treble this season it proves he’s not in that elite calibre.
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I hope you're taking the piss
 
How can you compare Ronaldo transfer with those two? Neymar was 25 when PSG signed him from Barcelona and Barcelona signed Vidal for just €19 million. Ronaldo is 33 and signing a 33 year old player for €100 million who has spent all his peak years at his first two clubs is just daft no matter how you look at it. I actually hope Ronaldo turns out to be a success for Juventus but watching him in the past 2 games doesn't bode well. 180 minutes, 0 goals. He would need to average the kind of goalscoring ratio he gets for Real Madrid for Juventus to justify this transfer fee or he would be a flop and I think he might be in for a shock as the Italian Seria A is not an easy league to play in. Think he might be past it.

Judging Ronaldo after two games is ridiculous. The amount of times we have been told he’s past it only for him to get top goal score in the Champions League. And regardless Serie A is not as strong as it use to be.
 
How can you compare Ronaldo transfer with those two? Neymar was 25 when PSG signed him from Barcelona and Barcelona signed Vidal for just €19 million. Ronaldo is 33 and signing a 33 year old player for €100 million who has spent all his peak years at his first two clubs is just daft no matter how you look at it. I actually hope Ronaldo turns out to be a success for Juventus but watching him in the past 2 games doesn't bode well. 180 minutes, 0 goals. He would need to average the kind of goalscoring ratio he gets for Real Madrid for Juventus to justify this transfer fee or he would be a flop and I think he might be in for a shock as the Italian Seria A is not an easy league to play in. Think he might be past it.
No he really wouldn't. The CL is their biggest goals and he helps them win it regardless of goalscoring ratio, he'll be a success.
 
Yes, they are. You’re assuming Juventus will win the league this season because they did so last year which is obviously completely illogical.

It’s not just that but it gets even worse since you’re assuming they will win the league this year because they did it 6 years ago... with a completely different squad, a different manager and different competition.

You’re pretty much guaranteeing that if Juve had kept Higuain and not bought Ronaldo they would have 100% won this year’s Serie A... :wenger:

Keep convincing yourself that they will win the league this year only because of Ronaldo.
 
I suspect that CR7 accolytes will completely ignore yet another slow start, because league games don't matter right?

For 1m per week you want him ballin every single week and anyone denying this is clearly on *that* side of the fence(Messi versus one).

Makes sense commercially, ok then, we will see with financial results if they are 80m per year better off(wages plus amortization of transfer fee).
 
He’s played 2 friggin’ games. Give the man some time. New league, new team, new players. It’s not automatic.
 
Yeah pretty much everyone would have bet on Juve winning the title even if they didn't buy Ronaldo.

Bayern and PSG won the league last season and everyone expect them to win it again. They had different teams during all these years just like Juve but everyone considers Bundesliga and Ligue 1 a one horse league.

Last year Napoli got close but there's no guarantee they will get again 90 points and anyway Juve won again for the 7th time in a row.

Anyway the point is that Agnelli bought Ronaldo for the CL, not to win more league titles. Ronaldo only has to win a CL during the 4 years of his contract to be considered a success, they can lose every scudetto for 4 years but it would all be forgotten if they win the CL.

That’s true but what I’m saying is that he doesn’t need to win a CL for it to be a success either.

If he has great 4 years and they win 3 league titles in the process they’ll be delighted even if they don’t win the CL. Winning for the past 7 years does not in any way guarantee that they’ll win it again, especially when the gap is obviously nowhere near as big as it is in Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga.

With that said, if you offered to win 1 CL or 4 league titles, they’d probably take the CL.
 
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He plays 2 good games, doesn’t score and there are people talking about a slow start. What slow start ffs? It’s been as much of a fast start as anyone could have hoped for.

The goals will come and anyone who’s watched the games knows he’s going to score loads of them. The only difference from these 2 games and the 10 games in the middle of the season where he’ll score 15 or more goals is that he’ll get an extra bit of luck and there won’t be any keepers pulling off great saves.
 
He wasnt bought foe serie a. He was bought to win them the champions league and if they manage that once throughout his time there it will be 100mil well spent
 
He plays 2 good games, doesn’t score and there are people talking about a slow start. What slow start ffs? It’s been as much of a fast start as anyone could have hoped for.

The goals will come and anyone who’s watched the games knows he’s going to score loads of them. The only difference from these 2 games and the 10 games in the middle of the season where he’ll score 15 or more goals is that he’ll get an extra bit of luck and there won’t be any keepers pulling off great saves.
In his first 2 games he is unlucky to have not scored 3 goals. He is playing well and the goals will come ,then it will be just like ketchup.
 
That’s true but what I’m saying is that he doesn’t need to win a CL for it to be a success either.

If he has great 4 years and they win 3 league titles in the process they’ll be delighted even if they don’t win the CL. Winning for the past 7 years does not in any way guarantee that they’ll win it again, especially when the gap is obviously nowhere near as big as it is in Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga.

With that said, if you offered to win 1 CL or 4 league titles, they’d probably take the CL.

No it doesn't guarantee that they'll win it again but they're huge favourites like every year.
 
Funny how the Ronaldo fanboys just move the measuring stick so that they can still gloat about their idol. Suddenly Serie A titles and "good games" (with the fanboys themselves determining what a "good game" is) are good enough to call his time at Juventus a success. Make no mistake, if they fail to win the CL with him this is one of the biggest transfer busts in history.

And to the people talking about how he had a slow start at RM last season (for which he was responsible himself because he shoved the ref and got suspended) or the last few seasons: That's exactly why I'm glad we got rid of him because there will be a time when that slow start isn't just a start but his new norm. He is old for a player and has a lot of mileage on his body (don't believe the marketing he has the body of a 20-year-old). And once the wheels come off they come off suddenly. Look at Schweinsteiger, he won the World Cup and was instrumental in that tournament and 12 months later he was playing like the guys on the senior/legends tour.

Ronaldo will still have single games where he dominates, just like at the World Cup against Spain. But over an entire season he is a burden for his team - but his fanboys will never ever admit it.
 
CR7 is such a flop. 2 whole games and no goals? Clearly the man's a fraud and is now being found out without his Madrid mates around him, setting things up on a plate. Sarcasm
 
Funny how the Ronaldo fanboys just move the measuring stick so that they can still gloat about their idol. Suddenly Serie A titles and "good games" (with the fanboys themselves determining what a "good game" is) are good enough to call his time at Juventus a success. Make no mistake, if they fail to win the CL with him this is one of the biggest transfer busts in history.

And to the people talking about how he had a slow start at RM last season (for which he was responsible himself because he shoved the ref and got suspended) or the last few seasons: That's exactly why I'm glad we got rid of him because there will be a time when that slow start isn't just a start but his new norm. He is old for a player and has a lot of mileage on his body (don't believe the marketing he has the body of a 20-year-old). And once the wheels come off they come off suddenly. Look at Schweinsteiger, he won the World Cup and was instrumental in that tournament and 12 months later he was playing like the guys on the senior/legends tour.

Ronaldo will still have single games where he dominates, just like at the World Cup against Spain. But over an entire season he is a burden for his team - but his fanboys will never ever admit it.

For your sake I hope this is satire.

One thing is for sure, he’s the only player in football history that can take this level of ignorance and stupidity out of people.
 
Two decent games from him so far but nothing special. To classify them as «great» you must have some serious fanboy glasses on surely. Thought his best spell was vs Chievo when he played on the left in the latter part of the 2nd half. He will score A LOT of goals, no doubt about that. This Juventus team are so much better than most of the league, even when playing 2nd choice midfielders/strikers.
 
For your sake I hope this is satire.

One thing is for sure, he’s the only player in football history that can take this level of ignorance and stupidity out of people.

And here is the fanboy cavalry - quod erat demonstrandum. I pity you and people like you who are so into something that they just ignore the real world to live in their dream bubble. Cristiano as a player has been in a constant decline for 2-3 years now but don't let that get in the way of your fantasies, dream on.
 
Keep convincing yourself that they will win the league this year only because of Ronaldo.

I never said that :wenger:

What I said is that your incredible idea that Juve are 100% guaranteed to win the league this season even if Ronaldo doesn’t play one game is actually very stupid.

You replied to that by not even defending yourself because I’m guessing you actually agree with me.
 
And here is the fanboy cavalry - quod erat demonstrandum. I pity you and people like you who are so into something that they just ignore the real world to live in their dream bubble. Cristiano as a player has been in a constant decline for 2-3 years now but don't let that get in the way of your fantasies, dream on.

No, the problem here is that you’re incredibly ignorant and you’re a lot more obsessed about Cristiano Ronaldo that the fanboys you so pretend to hate.

Calling Cristiano Ronaldo a burden to his team and pretending he’s holding the team down is not only incredibly stupid but shows a level of delusion that’s completely bonkers. Doing it while he’s winning every individual award imaginable and then accusing others of being the ones living in a dream bubble shows a level of insanity that is concerning at the very least.

So no... the problem here aren’t the fanboys. The people obsessed with Ronaldo aren’t rooting for him.

I thought the best thing about this transfer was that it would finally stop all this nonsense and Barcelona fans would turn their obsessive hatred towards Bale or Modric instead but it seems like it only made things worse and these people actually started watching Serie A games... I guess the only hope as the 6th Ballon D’Or gets closer and closer is to pretend he’s having a bad start at Juve. So be it, but other people don’t have to pretend.
 
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In his first 2 games he is unlucky to have not scored 3 goals. He is playing well and the goals will come ,then it will be just like ketchup.
I said the same thing a year ago after the away game at alaves. Turned out the bottle didn't open until the new year :(
 
I said the same thing a year ago after the away game at alaves. Turned out the bottle didn't open until the new year :(

He scored 16 goals in 22 games before the new year... Juve fans would be happy with that, especially if the level of performances continues the same even without the goals and he ends the season scoring goals at a better rate than any other player in world football by a big margin while resting for a bunch of the easier games.

It’s probably a good thing Juventus don’t depend on him scoring 2 goals every single game to be able to keep themselves in a title race and get out of the CL group stages.

I have absolutely no doubt he’ll end up scoring goals for fun and I really don’t understand how anyone can doubt it without a serious amount of wishful thinking involved. By the new year he’ll have more goals than games played in a Juventus shirt.
 
He scored 16 goals in 22 games before the new year... Juve fans would be happy with that, especially if the level of performances continues the same even without the goals and he ends the season scoring goals at a better rate than any other player in world football by a big margin while resting for a bunch of the easier games.

It’s probably a good thing Juventus don’t depend on him scoring 2 goals every single game to be able to keep themselves in a title race and get out of the CL group stages.

I have absolutely no doubt he’ll end up scoring goals for fun and I really don’t understand how anyone can doubt it without a serious amount of wishful thinking involved. By the new year he’ll have more goals than games played in a Juventus shirt.

I hope you're ready that this post will be quoted A LOT on the 1st of January 2019 :lol: But I'm sure you'll have other excuses ready by then.

And regarding your other post: The Balon d'Or has to be for Modric this year, everything else would be a travesty.
 
I hope you're ready that this post will be quoted A LOT on the 1st of January 2019 :lol: But I'm sure you'll have other excuses ready by then.

And regarding your other post: The Balon d'Or has to be for Modric this year, everything else would be a travesty.
The same way it should have been for sneijder in 2010 ? Or would it be different since it was Messi ?
 
There was nothing great about either peformance. He's been okay. But it's early days and he'll definitely boss the league in his time there.


But a couple of shocking posts in the last page or two, by a few posters who dislike him - hinderence to the team, pointless transfer etc.
 
I swear people have been writing same shit non-stop in August for 5 years now and they end up eating their words by April/May. He's had an okay start to the season, played well in 2nd half v Chievo. Played well last night too. There are plenty on here who just automatically assume if Ronaldo hasn't scored, he must've had a poor game. It's ridiculous.

Juve are by far the best team in that league and he's going to rack them up once he gets going. All this talk about him being finished, hinderance, waste of money etc. will look stupid in few months time.
 
Funny how the Ronaldo fanboys just move the measuring stick so that they can still gloat about their idol. Suddenly Serie A titles and "good games" (with the fanboys themselves determining what a "good game" is) are good enough to call his time at Juventus a success. Make no mistake, if they fail to win the CL with him this is one of the biggest transfer busts in history.

And to the people talking about how he had a slow start at RM last season (for which he was responsible himself because he shoved the ref and got suspended) or the last few seasons: That's exactly why I'm glad we got rid of him because there will be a time when that slow start isn't just a start but his new norm. He is old for a player and has a lot of mileage on his body (don't believe the marketing he has the body of a 20-year-old). And once the wheels come off they come off suddenly. Look at Schweinsteiger, he won the World Cup and was instrumental in that tournament and 12 months later he was playing like the guys on the senior/legends tour.

Ronaldo will still have single games where he dominates, just like at the World Cup against Spain. But over an entire season he is a burden for his team - but his fanboys will never ever admit it.

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And for Ribery in 2013, it's just the same cyclical discussion in this topic.
Ribery did not even have remotely the same season as Sneijder and Modric had in retrospect so that point is null. Ribery was no where near the best player in the world that year and it can be argued he was not even the best player on his team....
 
Funny how the Ronaldo fanboys just move the measuring stick so that they can still gloat about their idol. Suddenly Serie A titles and "good games" (with the fanboys themselves determining what a "good game" is) are good enough to call his time at Juventus a success. Make no mistake, if they fail to win the CL with him this is one of the biggest transfer busts in history.

And to the people talking about how he had a slow start at RM last season (for which he was responsible himself because he shoved the ref and got suspended) or the last few seasons: That's exactly why I'm glad we got rid of him because there will be a time when that slow start isn't just a start but his new norm. He is old for a player and has a lot of mileage on his body (don't believe the marketing he has the body of a 20-year-old). And once the wheels come off they come off suddenly. Look at Schweinsteiger, he won the World Cup and was instrumental in that tournament and 12 months later he was playing like the guys on the senior/legends tour.

Ronaldo will still have single games where he dominates, just like at the World Cup against Spain. But over an entire season he is a burden for his team - but his fanboys will never ever admit it.
Dude are high? honest question? Unlike YOUR idol by the time Ronaldo retires will have proven himself in THREE different leagues and WON the CL in 3 different teams and believe me feel free to save this post and quote me. I have no clue if it will be this season or the next or whenever the feck but as sure as you were born it will happen. The amount of disrespect he gets especially from fanatic Messi fans baffle me its like they cant stand the thought and current fact that he is not the best player of his generation. get a grip son. When we have posters who are hoping and saying he will fail in his THIRD team and THIRD league when he has proven himself in every competition and wherever he goes while there idol refuses to test his wits elsewhere. Give me a break Jesus Christ.
 
He was the best player on the pitch yesterday so I’m not sure what the problem is unless his performances are judged on nothing but whether he scores a goal or not?
 
He was the best player on the pitch yesterday so I’m not sure what the problem is unless his performances are judged on nothing but whether he scores a goal or not?
New team and not one serious pre season game with them. He just jumped right in a. A lot of people must of just started watching football.
 
And here is the fanboy cavalry - quod erat demonstrandum. I pity you and people like you who are so into something that they just ignore the real world to live in their dream bubble. Cristiano as a player has been in a constant decline for 2-3 years now but don't let that get in the way of your fantasies, dream on.
I think I agree with this but the irony of it all is that even though he may have lost a step he is still the best player in the world.
 
Ribery did not even have remotely the same season as Sneijder and Modric had in retrospect so that point is null. Ribery was no where near the best player in the world that year and it can be argued he was not even the best player on his team....

First you're comparing winners of different years, apples and oranges, Ribery didn't have to beat 10' Messi or 18' Ronaldo, he had to have a better year than Ronaldo (won nothing) or Messi (won La Liga).

I think by this point we all know that award doesn't go to the best player in the world or even in his team that year, that's why it's more ridiculous that after the 2010' trophy were they had other options before Messi, they repeated the same mistake giving it to Ronaldo in 2013 when another club won a treble.

If one of the marketing powerhouses (Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar or even Mbappe right now) won a treble, there would be little doubt as to who the winner would be, even if they had better performers than them in their team.
 
How can you compare Ronaldo transfer with those two? Neymar was 25 when PSG signed him from Barcelona and Barcelona signed Vidal for just €19 million. Ronaldo is 33 and signing a 33 year old player for €100 million who has spent all his peak years at his first two clubs is just daft no matter how you look at it. I actually hope Ronaldo turns out to be a success for Juventus but watching him in the past 2 games doesn't bode well. 180 minutes, 0 goals. He would need to average the kind of goalscoring ratio he gets for Real Madrid for Juventus to justify this transfer fee or he would be a flop and I think he might be in for a shock as the Italian Seria A is not an easy league to play in. Think he might be past it.

I can pretty much all but guarantee Juventus will come out with a profit on CR7, he is a huge draw marketing-wise and the 100M is a bargain IMO. We've said it for the last few years where CR7 is starting slow and looks past it then he wakes up and becomes a devastating force. Last couple of years, no one would have thought that he would win the Ballon d'Or when we saw his start of the season and he's set to likely win another one in a few months. For sure, at some point, he will slow down and not have an awakening in the middle of the season, but I think he still has a lot to give but he's in a new league, with new teammates. It's going to take time. He had slow starts in Madrid where he was extremely familiar with everything, so I don't see why people expect him to come out of the gates firing in a totally new environment.
 
The same way it should have been for sneijder in 2010 ? Or would it be different since it was Messi ?
What is this myth that Sneijder should have won in 2010? Complete garbage. Nobody at the time was ever serious that he should win it it’s developed in hindsight. There wasn’t a blink when Messi won it he was far and away the obvious best player in the world.
 
Dude are high? honest question? Unlike YOUR idol by the time Ronaldo retires will have proven himself in THREE different leagues and WON the CL in 3 different teams and believe me feel free to save this post and quote me. I have no clue if it will be this season or the next or whenever the feck but as sure as you were born it will happen. The amount of disrespect he gets especially from fanatic Messi fans baffle me its like they cant stand the thought and current fact that he is not the best player of his generation. get a grip son. When we have posters who are hoping and saying he will fail in his THIRD team and THIRD league when he has proven himself in every competition and wherever he goes while there idol refuses to test his wits elsewhere. Give me a break Jesus Christ.


I didn't know it was a fact that Messi is not the best player of his generation.

You should get a grip too because plenty of people think that Messi is better than Ronaldo.
 
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