This argument has been made before by someone else and it's still worthless. The rules were well established and known to all on beforehand
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This argument has been made before by someone else and it's still worthless. The rules were well established and known to all on beforehand
Now you are just being an ass for the sake of it.So now the new rules don’t count either? Talk to UEFA about that not me.
Also you ignored every other thing I mentioned above
So now the new rules don’t count either? Talk to UEFA about that not me.
Also you ignored every other thing I mentioned above
Quick, someone tell UEFA/FIFA that a team made three subs the other day.
As I said before insecurities.
If anything all this nonsense just proves that Ronaldo, at almost 35, is still fecking box office. Love him or hate him - the sheer amount of clicks he generate is insane.
And it wasn’t for Real Madrid when they had an even bigger goal differential at times?
But I suppose Messi getting Hatricks over Real Madrid should be downplayed as well?
I don’t know man, goals don’t count now rules don’t count , I must of missed all of this.
do people count those? I don’t think so, no?
What is downplayed is the fact Messi plays with the best player’s in the world, setting him up for over a decade
well, it was Ronaldo fans that brought out Messi. untill then it was Ronaldo (Juve) vs Ronaldo (NT), which isn't offtopic.
Really hope we manage to finish 3rd on our Euros group again
Imagine the meltdown
Imagine the meltdown
Anyone moaning about Ronaldo's goals, needs to look at the quality of opponents Ali Daei scored his 109 against!
Yes says the guy who writes Siuu ?
No international goals don’t count. We shouldn’t even air international goals on TV nor should the fans attend the games at the stadium.
They are just training sessions.
That’s actually @SirAF but even then what does that matter?Yes says the guy who writes Siuu ?
Yes says the guy who writes Siuu?
Fixed.
You should just start posting the “calma” gif of Ronaldo instead.It's fun, but I've posted it so many times I do get a bit bored from it at times
I feel like that would be more funny
You should just start posting the “calma” gif of Ronaldo instead.
I feel like that would be more funny
Certainly more appropriate considering how riled up some people get. Alas, it's not allowed to post gifs in the football forums
I like and admire Ronaldo but the false narrative pushed here that Ronaldo delivers for his country while Messi doesn’t is insane.
Fact is Messi was player of the tournament in WC 2014 and Copa America 2015 and was great overall in 2016. Ronaldo has never produced anything close to that at a major international tournament.
Fact is Messi was player of the tournament in WC 2014 and Copa America 2015 and was great overall in 2016. Ronaldo has never produced anything close to that at a major international tournament.
So do the picture instead! Beat the system!Certainly more appropriate considering how riled up some people get. Alas, it's not allowed to post gifs in the football forums
Wrong thread. There is a dedicated "Messi v Ronaldo" thread. I posted a linked just a few posts up.
However, he just played down any miscommunication or supposed resentment at club level https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Seri...o-il-milan-non-stavo-bene-3501167792601.shtml , so just play on and seeyouuu at Atalanta next Saturday
Ya he also did confirm he has been playing with a bit of a knock the past few weeks.However, he just played down any miscommunication or supposed resentment at club level https://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Seri...o-il-milan-non-stavo-bene-3501167792601.shtml , so just play on and seeyouuu at Atalanta next Saturday
The fecking barca fans will belittle anything associated with Ronaldo. Thought Messi vs Ronaldo thread was enough.
And ronaldo has been playing with bums his whole life? United were stacked, Madrid were stacked, and Juventus are stacked
even Portugal in recent years without fare very well when he doesn’t play
In recent seasons messi’s teammates have been way below par outside of Suarez in la liga and yet Messi still is by far and away the biggest reason for the trophies he does win. Even after iniesta and xavi left Messi is still having career level years. So that’s a weak argument. Especially considering all his rivals have been on incredible teams in their own right.
If Messi was the best player of the tournament in 2014 then so was I.
Ronaldo was easily better in 2012 and if we win the penalties instead of Spain then he wins player of the tournament instead of Iniesta. We would have beaten that italian team in the final too.
He'd have more chances of being the best player in continental tournaments if there were Euros every year like the Copa America too.
Ronaldo's played in great teams, nobody denied that. Messi simply played in better ones for almost every year of their careers, especially when they were both in their primes.
not in recent years no way, city and pool have been battering epl teams far more than Madrid/Barca in la liga.
not since 2016 have the 4-0, 5-0 been the norm for the best la liga teams against the rest. More so during the guardiola days and then Enrique
I’m going to leave now, I know this thread is getting side tracked.
Congrats on the 99 and see you boys in the other thread!
Congrats on the 99 and see you boys in the other thread!
If we face you guys, Im not fecking watching.
Better watch out for 2020... he knocked the dutch out in 2004 and 2012, might want to make it an 8 year tradition
Still great but currently may not be top 5 players on the world.
Oh great, I go to the real thread for this MvR discussion, taking like 1 hour to make an effort of a post, then when I did it I noticed you have been discussing this for 2 pages... and in the wrong place! Y for Shame.
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Both are amazing players but I think at the end of the day their international career won't be that impressive. The World Cup is the biggest stage and they have both generally been disappointing.
Ronaldo started off excellently but then was terrible in the last 2 games. Missed a penalty vs. Iran and almost got sent off. Then he was invisible vs.. Uruguay and even loat his cool to get a yellow and be suspended for the quarter final if they have managed to get an equalizer.
Messi was non-existent vs. Croatia and also missed a penalty in the group stage. His tournament was opposite of Ronaldo as he started awful but stepped it up against Nigeria and assists 2 goals against France.
The Brazilian Ronaldo was a beast in the World Cup knockout compared to Messi and Ronaldo. Sure he did have a better team but he elevated that team as well. Luis Suarsz hasn't been part of a better team than Cristiano or Messi but has done more in the World Cups. Uruguay are known for their defense not creativity so Suarez often is their only threat. Cavani typically choked for Uruguay and only stepped it up recently. Luos Suarez also managed to do what Ronaldo and Messi haven't which is score in an international final - he scored the winning goal to win Copa America.
Ronaldo started off excellently but then was terrible in the last 2 games. Missed a penalty vs. Iran and almost got sent off. Then he was invisible vs.. Uruguay and even loat his cool to get a yellow and be suspended for the quarter final if they have managed to get an equalizer.
Messi was non-existent vs. Croatia and also missed a penalty in the group stage. His tournament was opposite of Ronaldo as he started awful but stepped it up against Nigeria and assists 2 goals against France.
The Brazilian Ronaldo was a beast in the World Cup knockout compared to Messi and Ronaldo. Sure he did have a better team but he elevated that team as well. Luis Suarsz hasn't been part of a better team than Cristiano or Messi but has done more in the World Cups. Uruguay are known for their defense not creativity so Suarez often is their only threat. Cavani typically choked for Uruguay and only stepped it up recently. Luos Suarez also managed to do what Ronaldo and Messi haven't which is score in an international final - he scored the winning goal to win Copa America.
Don't worry, I've pointed the crazies in the right direction. Several times.
Counted 6 league batterings of 4 or more goals just in 2017-18
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017–18_FC_Barcelona_season
7 x3 goal margins in 2018-19
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018–19_FC_Barcelona_season
6x 3 goal margins already this season
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_FC_Barcelona_season
7 games out of 38 isn’t the norm. City had 7 games of 3+ goal victories by January of last season alone.
City are one of the all time best Premier league teams.
Barcelona and Real even in "quieter" times are still racking up loads of goals and comfy winning margins.
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