Cristiano Ronaldo | Signs for United! Fcuk City

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A fee City reportedly don't want to offer even though it's supposedly just 30m
 
snk123 said:
Think about this. We could have signed him if we didn't sign Donny Van De Fecking Beek.
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How does those two even connect? VDB was signed two fecking seasons ago. Anything to bash our own players. Why even bring VDB in a Ronaldo thread? Not like they even play the same position. Some fans pshh.
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
The people who don’t care are clearly the ones who never really loved Ronaldo that much. That’s fine, in fact that’s probably the adult way to behave. That doesn’t change the fact that for many fans, myself included. He’s the best player I’ve seen in the league at the club, he symbolises a period of domination from a Utd side I haven’t seen after and growing up as a young Utd fan I absolutely idolised him. Even as I’ve got older the respect I have for him as a character and person is monumental. Part of that respect is that fact I thought he had a genuine love and connection to Utd and the fans but clearly that was all one sided and he couldn’t give a toss. I get why to some that wouldn’t matter, but for me it would be a proper heartbreak. I’d happily burn effigies of the cnut round the city if he goes to those oil funded cheats.
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You’re kinda right but you really shouldn’t hold footballers to that high of a pedestal. They only look at it as a job and they will move to rivals if the money and the chance of winning trophies is there. And especially now with Messi moving to PSG he cares more about his legacy than his standing with United fans.
 
Judas said:
? That's a random conclusion jump, fair play.
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You are being too generous, that was one of the stupidest takes in a thread filled with stupid takes.


Skills said:
Wild to think about City's growth in the last 12 years. They'll easily be the biggest club in the country by the end of the decade - an entire generation will have watched them win for almost 20 years by then, while also playing the most attractive football in the country by miles.

They've done well
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So much growth that they had 10 people show up for Grealish’s signing.
 
harms said:
What I don’t get is that this move is a bit questionable for him in terms of maintaining/increasing his own following. So far every club that he had played for only increases it, but by signing with a United rival he surely would lose a lot of sympathizers amongst United fans?

Although he obviously had the matter thoroughly research by his people, so maybe I’m overlooking something important.
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I agree. For a player so obsessed with his image and legacy, pissing off the biggest fan base in world football just feels like a massive error. I just think even if he wins a champions league at City his overall legacy will be diminished. He would still fare worse in the votes, the Messi vs Ronaldo polls etc. Just doesn’t make any sense unless it’s purely for money.
 
Wish we had signed Messi now just to piss off City but nope can't even sign a PROPER DM
 
Judas said:
It would have been ridiculous for them to fail, it's not impressive when you think what they've put into it. They had to succeed.
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Of course, but think the fans they create over these years will care? They will be a global giant, if they aren't already
 
Skills said:
At least they've done it in style. Chelsea had money but served up crap for the most part.
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Well yeh that’s because ones backed by a country and blown away the other. It’s not so much style it’s more quantity of money.
 
Admittedly I think we should be trying to acquire him if he is indeed available and in an ideal world, as much as I like Cavani, a swap involving both players would be a great solution (though improbable). However, I think he is probably pushing specifically for them lot given what Messi has done in this transfer window. If he does indeed go there, then he will no longer be looked at favourably at this club, especially by the fans and rightfully so. The abuse he would and should get would be substantial, the move would highlight exactly what type of person he is.
 
Rolaholic said:


A fee City reportedly don't want to offer even though it's supposedly just 30m
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A bit greedy by City if they dont even want to offer a fee. 30 mil is nothing these days and pretty fair considering his fitness despite his age.
 
Ooooft this is picking up far too much steam for my liking,

Make no mistake Mendes would not be speaking to City if Ronnie had not said yes to the idea, this guy was an Idol to the fans and the youngsters at this club, his legacy will be tarnished in a flash if he signs for City, strip his mural off those training walls now
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
The people who don’t care are clearly the ones who never really loved Ronaldo that much. That’s fine, in fact that’s probably the adult way to behave. That doesn’t change the fact that for many fans, myself included. He’s the best player I’ve seen in the league at the club, he symbolises a period of domination from a Utd side I haven’t seen after and growing up as a young Utd fan I absolutely idolised him. Even as I’ve got older the respect I have for him as a character and person is monumental. Part of that respect is that fact I thought he had a genuine love and connection to Utd and the fans but clearly that was all one sided and he couldn’t give a toss. I get why to some that wouldn’t matter, but for me it would be a proper heartbreak. I’d happily burn effigies of the cnut round the city if he goes to those oil funded cheats.
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Well, it's a good lesson then. I mean, having 'monumental respect' for a footballer 'as a character and person' is a bit silly, most of the time: we just don't know them outside of a few soundbites in the press and the way they choose to present themselves in public.

And, well, it's Ronaldo. Of course we don't know him either but the way he presents himself makes him look like an egotistical poseur. I always found it quite funny how full of himself he seemed, increasingly so as he was getting better as a player. He was always a bit of a cringe monster, really.

As for genuine love and affection for the club: by now you really should know that's the exception, rather than the rule. Football's a job, most footballers treat it as a job and their sole concern is their own career, their own advancement, not some romantic notion of love for their clubs.
 
Affirmation said:
Admittedly I think we should be trying to acquire him if he is indeed available and in an ideal world, as much as I like Cavani, a swap involving both players would be a great solution. However, I think he is probably pushing specifically for them lot given what Messi has done in this transfer window. If he does indeed go there, then he will no longer be looked at favourably at this club, especially by the fans and rightfully so. The abuse he would and should get would be substantial, the move would highlight exactly what type of person he is.
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I would hope that Utd fans give him absolute hell! Might go down as the biggest snake in our history for me!
 
harms said:
Although he obviously had the matter thoroughly research by his people, so maybe I’m overlooking something important.
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His people are his family and his entourage of yes men.

There isn’t a lot to see here
Ronaldo has always been about himself.
Juve are terrible and won’t compete for CL anytime soon.
He has been desperate for attention with all the chatter about Messi, Mbappe and Kane. And how to turn the conversation back to him.
Joining the other oil super club in City is his desperate measure.
 
MrEleson said:
If it was Darren Fletcher (good player for us, probably not quite a “legend”) at Juve joining City, do you think anyone would care this much? I mean people would dislike for it but that’s it.
I’m not even defending Ronaldo (I’ll be astounded if he goes through with this) , I’m just debunking the idea that he’s not a legend here.
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No, 36 year old Fletcher moving to City wouldn't be debated so much. One of the greatest players of all time who played for us for 6 years and can still score plenty obviously will, especially when we are speaking about challenging this season.

When it comes to legend status (my theory, which of course can be argued against) is that any player who has a pretty open debate about whether he is legend or not, is not one in my book. You will not see many, if any arguments against Charlton, Cantona, Robson, etc... while many United supporters thought Ronaldo wasn't one even before all this.

So, this wouldn't prove the man is a legend, no. This would seal and end any talk about him ever being one and clearly push him towards cnut territory.
 
FreakyJim said:
Remember his first three seasons here? He was inconsistency personified. I don't think any big club anywhere would've given him the patience and playing time the way SAF did. And as soon as he stepped up and became what he is, he started making noises that he wants to leave for R.Madrid. I enjoyed his time here but he'll never be a special player for me, just another mercenary. I don't really care what he does. He can go to city or liverpool if he wants, he can kiss their badge and it won't matter to me in the slightest.
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He came at 18. Any club would be crazy not to give him time and patience with the insane talent he displayed from day 1.

Granted, United still molded him into the player he became so it’s definitely a spit in the face if he moved to City.
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
The people who don’t care are clearly the ones who never really loved Ronaldo that much. That’s fine, in fact that’s probably the adult way to behave. That doesn’t change the fact that for many fans, myself included. He’s the best player I’ve seen in the league at the club, he symbolises a period of domination from a Utd side I haven’t seen after and growing up as a young Utd fan I absolutely idolised him. Even as I’ve got older the respect I have for him as a character and person is monumental. Part of that respect is that fact I thought he had a genuine love and connection to Utd and the fans but clearly that was all one sided and he couldn’t give a toss. I get why to some that wouldn’t matter, but for me it would be a proper heartbreak. I’d happily burn effigies of the cnut round the city if he goes to those oil funded cheats.
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Everyone gets their heart broken for the first time. Those that don’t care have just seen it all before.

I’m not too bothered personally, I just think it’s a huge shame. Having an affinity with fans is a great thing, United have an illustrious list of players who we still revere, going back over half a decade now. Ronaldo just ensured he won’t have that longevity with us, and it’s quite sad to throw that away at the end of your career and he could have been a player our fans still talked about in 50 years time. But he clearly doesn’t care so neither should we.

*Assuming this is actually happening, which is seemingly very possible now.
 
TrustInJanuzaj said:
I agree. For a player so obsessed with his image and legacy, pissing off the biggest fan base in world football just feels like a massive error. I just think even if he wins a champions league at City his overall legacy will be diminished. He would still fare worse in the votes, the Messi vs Ronaldo polls etc. Just doesn’t make any sense unless it’s purely for money.
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He might fare worse in the polls, but if he can add at another PL and CL to his name, I doubt he cares much.
 
£30m for a season or two of Ronaldo sounds too good to be true. Still scored 29 in 31 last season. I'm surprised we aren't trying to tempt him when we only have one true centre forward, who doesn't appear to be close to match fitness yet.
 
OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
£30m for a season or two of Ronaldo sounds too good to be true. Still scored 29 in 31 last season. I'm surprised we aren't trying to tempt him when we only have one true centre forward, who doesn't appear to be close to match fitness yet.
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Probably cause we can't.
 
Gehrman said:
He might fare worse in the polls, but if he can add at another PL and CL to his name, I doubt he cares much.
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He will 100% care.

He has always been about attention and spent a decade trying to keep 2 of the 3 biggest fanbases in United and RM onboard
 
YooNow said:
I have no idea why people here are so pissed off against Ronaldo for going to Man City.

The focal point of the problem is not with Ronaldo trying to move himself away from Juventus, and there being only one club which is Man City interested; it is about Man Utd not being interested in the player.

I am sure the man would join Man Utd in a heartbeat if, Man Utd did make an offer for him.

Obviously, Ole feels it not necessary to buy Ronaldo at the moment, which is unfortunate, and Cristiano has found himself only one viable option which is City.
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That’s not the issue, we understandably don’t want to pay someone 37 next year up to €30m a year, there’s a reason why Man City are the only club in for him, they’re the only team who could reasonably afford that without selling a good chunk of the squad. We just bought Varane and Sancho, United are rich but not unlimited funds and oil state rich.

This also isn’t like Messi going to PSG because Barcelona literally released him. Ronaldo could stay at Juventus but him and Mendes have actively courted City, that makes it even worse.
 
For him its just business. He wants individual accolades and trophies. He'll have a better chance of winning at City than at Turim.

We should be all over this, swap deal involving Martial, but apparently we'll let him move to City. If we presented an offer that suits Juve, and he still chooses to go to City, that's a spit in the face. But since we are doing nothing, then we can't complain about his destinations.
 
I was very disappointed when he forced his move through to Real Madrid. He will never be a legend for Man Utd in my eyes. I couldn't care less if he went to Man City.
 
Siorac said:
Well, it's a good lesson then. I mean, having 'monumental respect' for a footballer 'as a character and person' is a bit silly, most of the time: we just don't know them outside of a few soundbites in the press and the way they choose to present themselves in public.

And, well, it's Ronaldo. Of course we don't know him either but the way he presents himself makes him look like an egotistical poseur. I always found it quite funny how full of himself he seemed, increasingly so as he was getting better as a player. He was always a bit of a cringe monster, really.

As for genuine love and affection for the club: by now you really should know that's the exception, rather than the rule. Football's a job, most footballers treat it as a job and their sole concern is their own career, their own advancement, not some romantic notion of love for their clubs.
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Football is about emotion. Strip that out and at its core it’s a pretty crappy game with a sack of air being kicked about. The reason I absolutely love it is about that emotion, the love for Utd and the love that is returned by the players. Its not true at all that it’s all the exception, there are hundreds of Utd players who have been and gone without shitting all over the fans and their legacy. People came to this club knowing nothing and then left as fans, see Rio, Evra, Vidic etc. They grew their affection while at the club just as the players grow in the hearts of the fans.

I will say, I would only have this reaction to one player and that’s Ronaldo. He’s just been a massive influential figure on my life. I’ve watched hundreds of hours of footage over and over again from him in a Utd shift and as I say it’s different when you idolise someone while growing up. You can claim it’s silly to respect his character but ultimately he’s been a model professional who has worked exceedingly hard to get to where he is. That’s admirable in any profession. I can tell though that he’s always been a person whos rubbed you up the wrong way so I’d say honestly you probably don’t really get it.
 
I know a lot of fans didn’t have time for him after he left United, but I just felt it was a Portuguese player going to play for his dream club. It didn’t hurt that much because, at the time, it just felt like Madrid was the biggest stage.

The memories he gave us at United were incredible. Watching him grow from a gangly teenager with straw hair and too many step overs to this force of nature was an incredible journey. The excitement every time he picked up the ball was palpable. He became my favourite player and I admired his dedication and desire to be the best.

The minute he signs for City, that ends for me. It means he doesn’t even consider us as the club that helped make him. Sir Alex was always so happy to see him at events afterwards and I know he will be absolutely heartbroken to see it too. It probably confirms, what deep down, we already knew…that Ronaldo only really cares about himself.

It seems dramatic, but he goes from being one of my favorite players of all time to nothing with this move. I thought he was bound to have, at least, a little affection for our club, and it’s really gutting to see where his desperation for attention will land him. It’s really sad, and him and Messi at THOSE two clubs is a dark day for football.
 
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