I am not passing to you. You are dead to me.
Cristiano Ronaldo: Set to leave by mutual agreement
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I am not passing to you. You are dead to me.
All this forensic investigation of the interview is a waste on energy you will need one day. If Ronaldo was our top scorer this year I would still immediately show him the door after this interview with Arsenal fanboy Morgan. There is no rational reasoning with Ronaldo's and he knows it. Even more Morgan wont state when the interview was done other than recent. Hopefully as stated by a lawyer that its a contract breaker with United holds the cards. P45 in Bruno's luggage so he can hand it to him at camp.
Not in the slightest. If Ronaldo was still a top footballer and would fit tactically into the side and he'd be moaning about low standards and lack of ambition, it'd be the same.
The funniest thing about this topic for me is it actually highlight a lot of the problems we have had for years.
The club has been giving far too much respect to both current and former players, and as a result, we really haven't been able to move in the right direction until this season. Our decisions have consistently been based on sentiment and appeasing vocal members of our fanbase, such as our ex players. The club is constantly apologizing, revering to critics and trying hard to appease past representatives of the club. This is why we signed an aging Ronaldo. Its why we hired and kept Ole on. It's why managers like Moyes and LVG far overstayed their welcome. Woodward allowed these people to take advantage of the club. All of whom still ended up feeling bitter when they inevitably left (well except Ole). Being a nice front office doesn't work if you don't have a strong hand there to enforce standards. That's what ETH has been. It's also what we need to start seeing from our directors. As a club, we are way too soft on people within and outside the club. Yes, we have been poor for some years and are not where we expect to be, but constantly apologizing and feeling the need to appease hasn't been helping us at all.
This is also why Ronaldo felt he could get away with this at United. Juventus didn't bow to his demands and if he did this publicly at Madrid, despite being where he was greatest, they would have booed him out of the Bernabeu. United fans have been really gullible for years in this regard and too respectful of our players. It's easy to sit back and blame the Glazers for all types of things. However, they haven't been playing on the pitch and for the most part, haven't been responsible for football related decisions at the club. Our decisions to support and keep aging players like Cavani, Matic and Mata for so long. Our promotion of average young players into the squad who have no business of being there at all just so we can keep the notion of the United way (players like Pereira, Lingard, Mctominay, Elanga). Giving players who haven't justified their positions in the squad with faith and time to make changes that they never end up doing (VDB, Fellaini, Martial, Bailly, Jones, Smalling). Giving assistant roles to ex players who haven't proven they could do that job, this also includes Ole's appointment.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a sentimental club. It's why we have been able to amass the number of fans we have. However, it also makes it quite easy for the club to be taken advantage of, our fans included. Certain fans, even during the golden age of Sir Alex, would always pile on the club and compare us in a negative light to our rivals both tactically and in terms of star power. The stark difference between the Edwards and Gill led United and the one we had under Woodward is the unwillingness to appease or apologize. We didn't sign superstars to excite fans, we didn't entertain poor performances because a player was adapting, we didn't hold forums to listen to the fans about their complaints or offer outrageous contracts just to appease a player who didn't deserve that type of contract. We were willing to let Keane walk in 2006 and willing to have stiff negotiations with him in 2000. We were willing to part ways with Stam in 2001 and sell Beckham in 2003 and Van Nistelrooy in 2006. It wasn't just Fergie who had that level of steel, it was the club as well. For me, at a leadership level, that's what our problem on the football and media side of things has been; Arnold and Murtough can set that standard now with Ronaldo.
The club has been giving far too much respect to both current and former players, and as a result, we really haven't been able to move in the right direction until this season. Our decisions have consistently been based on sentiment and appeasing vocal members of our fanbase, such as our ex players. The club is constantly apologizing, revering to critics and trying hard to appease past representatives of the club. This is why we signed an aging Ronaldo. Its why we hired and kept Ole on. It's why managers like Moyes and LVG far overstayed their welcome. Woodward allowed these people to take advantage of the club. All of whom still ended up feeling bitter when they inevitably left (well except Ole). Being a nice front office doesn't work if you don't have a strong hand there to enforce standards. That's what ETH has been. It's also what we need to start seeing from our directors. As a club, we are way too soft on people within and outside the club. Yes, we have been poor for some years and are not where we expect to be, but constantly apologizing and feeling the need to appease hasn't been helping us at all.
This is also why Ronaldo felt he could get away with this at United. Juventus didn't bow to his demands and if he did this publicly at Madrid, despite being where he was greatest, they would have booed him out of the Bernabeu. United fans have been really gullible for years in this regard and too respectful of our players. It's easy to sit back and blame the Glazers for all types of things. However, they haven't been playing on the pitch and for the most part, haven't been responsible for football related decisions at the club. Our decisions to support and keep aging players like Cavani, Matic and Mata for so long. Our promotion of average young players into the squad who have no business of being there at all just so we can keep the notion of the United way (players like Pereira, Lingard, Mctominay, Elanga). Giving players who haven't justified their positions in the squad with faith and time to make changes that they never end up doing (VDB, Fellaini, Martial, Bailly, Jones, Smalling). Giving assistant roles to ex players who haven't proven they could do that job, this also includes Ole's appointment.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a sentimental club. It's why we have been able to amass the number of fans we have. However, it also makes it quite easy for the club to be taken advantage of, our fans included. Certain fans, even during the golden age of Sir Alex, would always pile on the club and compare us in a negative light to our rivals both tactically and in terms of star power. The stark difference between the Edwards and Gill led United and the one we had under Woodward is the unwillingness to appease or apologize. We didn't sign superstars to excite fans, we didn't entertain poor performances because a player was adapting, we didn't hold forums to listen to the fans about their complaints or offer outrageous contracts just to appease a player who didn't deserve that type of contract. We were willing to let Keane walk in 2006 and willing to have stiff negotiations with him in 2000. We were willing to part ways with Stam in 2001 and sell Beckham in 2003 and Van Nistelrooy in 2006. It wasn't just Fergie who had that level of steel, it was the club as well. For me, at a leadership level, that's what our problem on the football and media side of things has been; Arnold and Murtough can set that standard now with Ronaldo.
Yes.
Just because he's utterly deluded doesn't mean he deserves any sympathy whatsoever.
Pretty sure Ronaldo isn't bothered. He knows the cameras are on though so he can add this as evidence of how cold hearted Man Utd are freezing him out. It has shades of Pogba's "what did I do?" body language when Mourinho pulled up on him at training that one time.
Ffs Morgan is going to spend a week milking this gold bar he’s discovered.
People are saying it’s normal greeting. But sky showed a longer version where he does seem to hug other players after Ronaldo yet just gives a brief handshake to the wax work.
Sky did report earlier that the Utd team only found out about the interview on their way back from the match last night. They were said to be disappointed and shocked with the timing of it.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bruno is pissed off and so are the rest of the squad.
ETH clearly has the players onside, they're all working so much harder this season than last and they seem to like him. He's been the one toxic poisonous presence in the dressing room. Our best performance in years vs Spurs and yet all the talk afterwards is Ronaldo refusing to come on and storming off. A last minute winner by our new wonder kid and yet all the talk afterward is Ronaldo doing this interview.
Ronaldo has acted like a cnut all season and now has faked an illness to skip games so he can go on TV and slag the club and the manager they all like off.
I honestly expect the vast majority to be delighted when he fecks off.
ETH clearly has the players onside, they're all working so much harder this season than last and they seem to like him. He's been the one toxic poisonous presence in the dressing room. Our best performance in years vs Spurs and yet all the talk afterwards is Ronaldo refusing to come on and storming off. A last minute winner by our new wonder kid and yet all the talk afterward is Ronaldo doing this interview.
Ronaldo has acted like a cnut all season and now has faked an illness to skip games so he can go on TV and slag the club and the manager they all like off.
I honestly expect the vast majority to be delighted when he fecks off.
Ah it looks strained.
‘My mouthpiece talked me into it!’
he’s there by choice. he answered the questions that way by choice. this is all on ronaldo, get your head out the sand.
why are we still making excuses for him?
Yeah ronaldos facial expression suggests it was certainly a cold greeting. Bruno doesn’t even go to shake his hand until Ronaldo is the one to initiate it. Bruno obviously has to show some level of professionalism as they need to still play together but that’s certainly not a normal greeting.
Ronaldo isn’t stupid. He knows how to correct a misunderstanding. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
Piers Morgan even confirmed that it was Ronaldo who approached him and said he wanted to do an interview with him.
Ronaldo wanted this drama.
Is this a real quote?
Sounds like something Arsenal fans would've written up
The hand hung a bit alright, and Bruno looked at it instead of just extending his instinctively. Hilarious. He's proper one man carnival.
He had talking points. Ronaldo said yes when he brought the topic up he knew what was coming.
Bruno greets Ronaldo the way I used to greet my dad on Christmas morning after getting books under the tree instead of a Playstation
You guys are most definitely right. I’m just saying that Piers is deliberately adding fuel to the fire and trying his best to get the most divisive answers from Ronaldo because he knows it will stir more and thus sell more.
Don't fall for any of the criticism of the hierarchy and the club by Ronaldo. The man lives and breathes PR. He's an almost textbook case of narcissistic personality disorder. Those relatable comments aren't coming from a place of genuine concern, but rather a position of emotional manipulation. It's designed to get fans on his side. It's placed there to get fans to feel sorry for him. It's a means to an end.
Bothers me in the interview that he keeps saying sport directive instead of director.
And someone tell him our club doesn't have one
That's his job, what he's been doing for a quarter of a century. That isn't (shouldn't be) news to anyone and it's not relevant at all in mitigating Ronaldo's behavior in requesting, carrying out and okaying the interview. Good thing you weren't trying to do that, eh
When I was young I went through a phase of genuinely disliking my cousin because he said reflection rather than deflection when talking about football but eventually I just got over it and found other reasons to hate him.
Ronaldo is an idiot to speak bad against the manager. Had he not said anything about that and just ripped the club's hierarchy, I feel he would have been a bigger cult.
You can actually get a good idea what he was trying to achieve here from one of the first clips they put out. "As Picasso said, you have to destroy it to rebuild it [the artist's exact quote was: 'Every act of creation is first an act of destruction'] and if they start with me, for me, it's not a problem." So right away its clear hes egging the club on to get rid of him, I just hope they don't have to pay him anything. Let's see if its "not a problem" for him then if he's not picking up 30m in severance.
Absolute bellend.
Absolute bellend.
Did he do a televised interview too? I can help make a list
It got me when he was talking about the President. That would be Joel Glazer if he was elected rather than owning the fecking club.
Except MJ could respond to all his gripes, imagined or not, on the court with his play.
he wants out. Slagging off the manager is an effective way of burning that bridge for good.
If Ronnie loved the club he would realize we are better off without him and he should just terminate his contract and leave.
I’m sorry but I agree with everything he’s said bar the comments about ETH. The manager must have freedom to pick his team.
When is the full interview going to air?
We heard you the first time!
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