Why do people think we’re not in for him? Who says Perez would sell us CR7 for €100m?
Cristiano Ronaldo | Real confirm deal
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Pretty sure Jose and Ronaldo don't want to work with each other again
Last year's biggest problem in the league was motivation. Then the lead started growing bigger by the point they knew they wouldn't catch up.
This time they'll have new players, a new manager, a new way of playing... they'll obviously miss him but I wouldn't be surprised if they won the league. Either way they definitely won't do worse than this season in the league.
Yeah, but they already finished third 17 points off with him in the team, so he's hardly some sort of league performance guarantee anyway.
IMO, any self respecting borderline WC striker given penalties and freekicks should easily match Ronaldo's numbers given the overall quality present in RM's squad, that whole story about his goals being impossible to replace is just hogwash. Kane for example scored at a slightly worse clip last couple of years, in a theoretically much tougher league and obviously with way weaker support.
Real Madrid finished 17 points behind partly because of Ronaldo. He had horrible finishing at the start of the season and didn't get going until the CL. The whole team was built to facilitate Ronaldo and if he isn't scoring then the team struggles to score. Benzema was in the team for that reason and he has been shockingly bad for most of the season.
I'm not convinced they will be better - they just lost Zidane as manager and their leading goal scorer. No one in that side is capable of contributing remotely that amount of goals, so its hard to see how they wouldn't be significantly worse than this year. They would have to buy someone like Lewandowski or Cavani to make up for the lost production, and still, it may not be enough.
That's because Kane is probably one of the top 3 strikers in the world at the moment (possibly the best). Unless they are buying someone of that calibre, they have no prayer of finishing better than 3rd next year - especially with Barca improving and Atletico retaining Griezmann.
Seconded. Real have been CL specialists in recent season. If Ronaldo switching teams suddenly makes fortune favour Juve, that’s definitely a boost to his legacy.
I'm waiting for the Griezmann-style Netflix docu
If they let Ronaldo go, i'd reasonably expect his replacement will be of the highest caliber available. Say if not Kane, then Icardi or whomever strikes their fancy. Atletico is not good enough to last a title race IMO, four consecutive seasons they are clear also rans, i don't see that changing Griezmann or no Griezmann. Barcelona obviously looks better on paper, whether it will translate into league performance remains to be seen.
It is also worth noting that the end of Ronaldo at Real Madrid certainly means the end of Benzema also, so it is not simply a case whether say Neymar/Hazard is better than Ronaldo, but more of whether Neymar/Hazard on the wing alongside Kane/Icardi/Lewandowski etc. in the middle is better than Ronaldo/Benzema pairing.
I think we're past that point, but yes
Either way football definitely needs a Juve vs Madrid CL quarter/semi final next season. I don't think Ronaldo will be enough for Juve, they need a midfielder and picking Cancelo for rightback was a big mistake imo.
You mean his massive 4 goals in the first 19 games? Somehow i don't think we'll be worse off in the league next season. Maybe we won't win it, then again, we've won 2 in 9 years with him
CL is another story, sure. Let's see who we replace him with
If he wants to leave, he has to be brave and explain his reasons. It will be complicated because he will have to ignore his problems with the president and talk about "new challenges" and similar things that nobody believes.
You guys will probably be fine. Do you really think he will leave? I cant see that this will go down quick and without drama.
Juventus had our number this season. Their goalkeeper situation is nowhere as tragic as people here think it is, the defence should be better, they're replacing Khedira's ageing tired legs with Emre Can, Douglas Costa is now fully settled, and Cristiano is the most decisive player in the competition. Maybe it won't be enough -you still need the little and big things outside your control going your way- but i'd say they were already good enough to win it the last two seasons, and adding Cris should give them an even better chance. Perhaps his influence will even be enough to counter their CL finals curseI think we're past that point, but yes
Either way football definitely needs a Juve vs Madrid CL quarter/semi final next season. I don't think Ronaldo will be enough for Juve, they need a midfielder and picking Cancelo for rightback was a big mistake imo.
The last thing Perez will want is for Ronaldo to say his reasons though.
Yes, it's done. 120mil euros to us i think. He's set his mind and we will not make the extra effort needed to change it.
Heh, not really. It's the other way around i think. The Ronceros are a minority within Madridismo
We could sign Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe and Neymar and we still wouldn't win the league. We don't have any semblance of a style of play, we have many mistmatched players (square pegs in round holes) and we have a manager who thinks more of himself than the club. Now some of you want to bring a player like Ronaldo, with his ego, who needs a team built specifically around him? It would only end in tears I'm afraid, no matter how good he is.
Yes it will, there won't be much drama if we have a good summer of transfers.
The timing of the official announcement might be delayed for a while, but the deal itself will be closed and signed very soon
Juventus had our number this season. Their goalkeeper situation is nowhere as tragic as people here think it is, the defence should be better, they're replacing Khedira's ageing tired legs with Emre Can, Douglas Costa is now fully settled, and Cristiano is the most decisive player in the competition. Maybe it won't be enough -you still need the little and big things outside your control going your way- but i'd say they were already good enough to win it the last two seasons, and adding Cris should give them an even better chance. Perhaps his influence will even be enough to counter their CL finals curse
Juve outplayed you in the CL quarters but in the round before they were one foot and a half out of the competition against Tottenham.
Plenty of very good teams in the CL next season, Barca, Madrid, Atleti, City, United, Tottenham, Liverpool, PSG and Juve all seem very strong. Juve are definitely good enough to win it but things will have to go their way.
Is there any chance that United will hijack the deal and sign Ronaldo? It's worked with Lukaku
All these years waiting for him to come back home and now when he finally leaves Madrid, he goes to Juve. Tragic.
All these years waiting for him to come back home and now when he finally leaves Madrid, he goes to Juve. Tragic.
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Lack of investment in the team, Spain-Lopetegui fiasco, Zidane out and now Ronaldo out with him being the reason it's happening. No Neymar and the fans won't be happy. It's all fine to be mad at Ronaldo but the way Madrid fans work is that it will stop as soon as he's gone.
Every source is saying you offered him the exact same deal as Juve and he still chose to go, the Jugones guys who broke the story said they had confirmed that from sources from both sides, Madrid and Cristiano. Perez will want to give him a nice sending off and for Ronaldo to say it's his decision to leave and that he's looking for a new challenge, it's what will happen.
Except for the massive flood of press about Juventus being interested, reported in 100s of sources, what's your hunch based on?
Cristiano winning all there is to win in Spain, Real starting a new cycle, Zidane leaving, Spanish Tax Authorities being a nuisance - think he's done in Madrid
It does make you wonder why Zidane abruptly left. Something rotten behind the scenes?
I'm expecting a much stronger United in Europe this time around. I think you'd have caused big problems to any big team even last year, completely fecked it up against Sevilla though.
Is there any chance that United will hijack the deal and sign Ronaldo? It's worked with Lukaku
All these years waiting for him to come back home and now when he finally leaves Madrid, he goes to Juve. Tragic.
If we didn't go for Sanchez in the Jan window I reckon Ronaldo would've been coming to us. Kinda annoying, cus I've always wanted Ronny back at some point, but it is what it is.
Yeah, but if his reasons are the ones reported in the papers, people won't be angry at Flo for this. Said this before, but the way Mendes and Cris played their hand during the whole saga since last year, Flo couldn't have done a better job of covering his arse if he planned it(or..did he? I wouldn't rule out all this being planned by Flo honestly
)Besides, the default state of madridistas outside the periods between Sergio lifting a CL and the start of the new season is Hate Florentino
"Cristiano believes that there has been a strategy to get him out of Madrid"
Pedrerol: Zidane asked Florentino to negotiate if they receive an offer for Cristiano
Pedrerol: Zidane asked Florentino to negotiate if they receive an offer for Cristiano
Have to do this now
I wouldn't rule out all this being planned by Flo honestly
Yeah, but if his reasons are the ones reported in the papers, people won't be angry at Flo for this. Said this before, but the way Mendes and Cris played their hand during the whole saga since last year, Flo couldn't have done a better job of covering his arse if he planned it(or..did he? I wouldn't rule out all this being planned by Flo honestly
Besides, the default state of madridistas outside the periods between Sergio lifting a CL and the start of the new season is Hate Florentino
Perez couldn't have made it more obvious if he tried.
That's why I said the last thing he'll want is for Ronaldo to give his reasons and say what happened. Ronaldo will get a send off and he'll say it was his decision and that it was time for a new challenge... that's the only way he leaves. No chance he gets to leave by saying what happened between him and Perez, that's for Perez to tell Marca what to write and for us to find out in 20 years when there's a Ronaldo biography to read.
It is a bit bittersweet that after leaving Real, he won't return here, but I just don't see any viable reason he'd return here.
And Serie A will be far more kind to him. Juventus dominate the league, and he'll have full focus on the CL again.
And Serie A will be far more kind to him. Juventus dominate the league, and he'll have full focus on the CL again.
https://en.as.com/en/2018/04/13/football/1523646275_090122.htmlHave to do this now
Expect Ronaldo's goal tally to go drastically lower in Juventus. He won't have Marcelo, Kross, Modric, Benzema, Carvajal, Vazquez sending giving him 20 assists per game.
As for Madrid, they need to get a killer like Kane (would score the double of goals in Madrid than in the Spurs) that would give them something similar to what Ronaldo gives in the last years that he became more a striker, instead of a player like Neymar that plays more from the wing, Madrid has plenty of players in that position.
They would still be the best club in the world, with most UCLs won, twice as Bayern and Barca.
Do you really think that Madrid has won all of this because of Ronaldo??! Madrid has the best squad in the world by far, even without Ronaldo... Marcelo, Ramos, Varane, Carvajal, Casemiro, Modric, Kross, Isco, Bale, Benzema, Asensio, Vazquez, Kovacic, Nacho. Plus others that also helped Madrid to win UCL this years like Xavi Alonso, Pepe, James, Morata, Di Maria, etc.... Really??!!
Its easy to talk shite when you have no idea of what you are talking about... Real Madrid fans are hard to please, that is true, that level of demand is what makes Madrid so successful. They would never keep in the team players that do not perform top level always.
But Madrid fans booing Ronaldo is not because they are classless, but because every single Madrid fan knows that the club is bigger than any player, but Ronaldo has tried several times (and failed all of them) to prove that he is more important. Ronaldo hasn't been booed in the last 2 years from Madrid's fans, but after his attitude and words after thet last UCL final, you can be sure if he stayed he would be booed again. Thats it.
Its a shame that he will have to learn how big is Madrid when he goes out the club, and he never wins a UCL or a Ballon D'or again, and he stops scoring 1 goal per game.
You've said it before bro, 'no one is bigger than the club'.
Of course the fanbase doesn't likes tomsee him go, but when you try constantly to steal the attention from the club's achievements, specially when they just have made history, just because you had a shite game and no one will talk about you this time just makes it easier.
Btw, Ronaldo is NOT Madrid's best player ever, that is Di Stefano. In fact, he isn't even Madrid's most important player of the team currently, that is Sergio Ramos.
OMG hahahaha funiest and dumbest comment I've read in the forum...
Its ALL ABOUT THE MONEY.
Its not that he needs it, thats for sure. But for his enormous ego and pride, it is an insult that the club pays him less much less than what PSG pays Neymar or Barca pays Messi. He is that competitive! So yes, it is the money, but more because of pride and ego, not because he is not rich enough...
Hahahaha really?! So I think Keylor Navas, Varane, Carvajal, Kross, Casemiro, Kovacic, Isco, Asencio, Vazquez, Morata, James, Nacho, Bale, etc... are old and ageing players that can't shine without Ronaldo. For sure!! Also Ordiozola, Theo, Llorente, Mariano and Vinicius as youngsters just can't shine...
Not really. Florentino has been buying young and cheap players the last 4/5 years just because of that, and now the team is full of great young players.
Of course its hard to replace Madric but that is why they bought Kovacic, for Ramos you have Nacho and Vallejo. For Benzema and Bale you have Isco, Asensio and Vazquez. Yet for Ronaldo they will have to spend a lot and buy Kane or Mbappe... but Madrid hasn't spend almost nothing in the last 3 years, so they can afford it.
Its a no brainer that its easier for Madrid to win another UCL than for Ronaldo to win a UCL with Juve. For Ronaldo, just like Messi, its much easier to perform like they do and score like they do when they have players with Madrid and Barca quality.
Make no mistake, Juve IS NOT Real Madrid, and you will start seeing it soon. Just ask Ozil, Di Maria, Alonso, Pepe, Morata, James, etc how much have they won after going out from Madrid...
Overall you make some good points, but you overplay the strength of the squad tremendously. Real Madrid have won 2 league titles in 9 years, so they're definitely second tier to Barcelona.
Yes, Madrid have won a lot of CL's, but quite frankly some of those were ill-deserved. You won one against AM by drawing in the last minute, and won another on PK's- then the shameful refereeing vs Bayern etc, yes the team have been successful, but it's not been Sacchi's Milan or Pep's Barca. This cycle is over, it might be awhile before RM wins in Europe again.
You have a coach that emphasizes Spanish players, will see how successful he will be in Europe. If you think Vasquez and Isco and Asensio will bail you out, well we've seen how good Spain have been recently.
Are you seriously thinking of replacing Ronaldo with Kane? I mean, go for it, but it would be a huge step down.
I wholeheartedly agree that none is bigger than the club tho, so I see why Flo is telling Ronnie to go away.
Bale is a Ronaldo wannabe but never will be.
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