Cristiano Ronaldo | Real confirm deal

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This got me thinking: let’s say Ronaldo does leave for Turin, what’s a realistic target for him in terms of goals? Only six players have ever scored 100+ goals in Juventus’ colours (Del Piero, Bonaperti, Bettega, Trezeguet, Sivori and Borel). Surely that’s an achievable goal for a player with such lofty ambitions and an incredible will to succeed. Over the course of four injury-free seasons with 50+ games a season, I wouldn’t bet against him surpassing the 100-goal mark.

Also, has any player ever scored 100+ goals for three top-level clubs before, let alone across three different leagues?

I think if he stays there 4 years, 100 goals is definitely achievable.

Plenty of records to be broken, if he wins the Ballon D'Or he'd become the first player to win it for 3 different clubs. If he wins the league he'd become the first player to win the Premier League, La Liga and Serie A. If he wins the Champions League he'd be the second player to win it 6 times and the second player to win it for 3 different clubs. It's the perfect move for his legacy, he could stay at Madrid and be comfortable but this is the right move for him.
 
I think if he stays there 4 years, 100 goals is definitely achievable.

Plenty of records to be broken, if wins the Ballon D'Or he'd become the first player to win it for 3 different clubs. If he wins the league he'd become the first player to win the Premier League, La Liga and Serie A. If he wins the Champions League he'd be the second player to win it 6 times and the second player to win it for 3 different clubs. It's the perfect move for his legacy, he could stay at Madrid and be comfortable but this is the right move for him.

Yep, I’m very impressed with his desire to continually improve and also prove his doubters wrong. When I theoretically posed the question about the 100+ goals, I also thought of his legacy in terms of Serie A titles added to La Liga and Premier League, his quest for further Champions League titles etc. He’s nowhere near finished and he’s already the greatest European footballer of all time, for me. Even if his Juve stint goes half as well as we all expect it to go, he’ll still have had an unsurpassable career for any European footballer ever.
 
Quite. I’m really not a Mourinho fan but those kind of posts are infuriating. Real lack of actual knowledge.

Your arrogance is even more infuriating. Your justification is based on past knowledge and you fail to consider the current situation. That was 6 years ago. Ronaldo's playing style has changed quite a lot in recent years in case you haven't noticed. Ronaldo has also been vocal with his criticism of Mourinho's emphasis on defence in the past. Imagine Ronaldo in that Sevilla game :lol:
 
I still don't see this happening. He'll be angry and upset till August, lineup for Madrid on September 1st, be rubbish till December, realize he's got a Ballandor to win and turn up from mid Jan to mid April and then go into depression and threaten to leave from the day after their CL final win till the end of August 2019.
 
Juventus' stock price going up is not particularly relevant to the actual impact of Ronaldo on their financials. It's a short term reaction to a news event, and there are many other indicators that will have to be monitored over the medium term to see how their financials are impacted. The jump in price is however a good sign of a deal happening as there is likely some insider information.

Souce: I'm a trader on the markets.
 
While we are on the topic of money :

For every season that Ronaldo trained with United - from age 18 to 23 - the club receives 0.5 per cent of the overall transfer fee.

Ronaldo was there for six seasons in that time frame, which means £440,000 (0.5 per cent of £88m) needs to be multiplied by that number
Therefore, United should pocket around £2,640,000 if Juventus sign Ronaldo for £88m.

Sporting Lisbon will also earn a little reward, and should receive around £1,320,000.
 
While we are on the topic of money :

For every season that Ronaldo trained with United - from age 18 to 23 - the club receives 0.5 per cent of the overall transfer fee.

Ronaldo was there for six seasons in that time frame, which means £440,000 (0.5 per cent of £88m) needs to be multiplied by that number
Therefore, United should pocket around £2,640,000 if Juventus sign Ronaldo for £88m.

Sporting Lisbon will also earn a little reward, and should receive around £1,320,000.

Glad that's Alexis' weekly wages covered.
 
Juventus' stock price going up is not particularly relevant to the actual impact of Ronaldo on their financials. It's a short term reaction to a news event, and there are many other indicators that will have to be monitored over the medium term to see how their financials are impacted. The jump in price is however a good sign of a deal happening as there is likely some insider information.

Souce: I'm a trader on the markets.

Yeah I dont doubt that. But a 20% jump is a massive one indicating just how marketable a player like Ronaldo is. Noodles and tractor sponsors incoming
 


450 is a nice number to end it on. Won't be an easy record to be broken.

@Cezzine you vastly underrate what Ronaldo is if you think it's the players around him that are making him look as good as he does. You talk about the service he gets from Marcelo, Modric, Benzema, etc. but just wait and watch the service he'll get from Pjanic, Douglas Costa, Dybala..

With Ronaldo it's always been the same, he wouldn't look good without Rooney alongside him, then he wouldn't look good without Ozil or Di Maria and now he won't look good without Marcelo and Modric. If you think it's impossible for him to keep scoring once a game then I think you'll be shocked.

He'll end his career with more goals for his country than anyone in football history... while playing for Portugal. He makes the service look better than it is and you'll see it next season when Marcelo, Kroos and Lucas Vasquez get into crossing positions and there will be noone to aim at or noone dragging 2 or 3 defenders away. Madrid have enough money and quality to still be at the top but you vastly underrate Ronaldo's influence on the way this Madrid team works. Plenty will have to change, you won't just get a good striker and play the same way. That won't work.


100 per cent. Ronaldo will score at least 40 goals wherever he plays next season.

People are forgetting a 35 year old Zlatan scored 50 times in a calendar year in 2016 and Ronaldo is a far superior player to Zlatan.

I can't believe some posters seem so blind to Ronaldo's quality as a player. As I've said repeatedly, the kind of names being floated as replacements for Ronaldo come nowhere near to his goal scoring record. Not to mention his record in big games. How many Classicos has he been decisive in? How many Champions League ties has he decided?

We're talking about a player who has scored 60 goals in a season twice, a player who has routinely scored 50 goals a season, a player who has more goals than games for Madrid. It actually makes me laugh that some people think Neymar or Hazard can replace Ronaldo. It reminds me of people saying Ariel Ortega could replace Diego Maradona.
 
Expect Ronaldo's goal tally to go drastically lower in Juventus. He won't have Marcelo, Kross, Modric, Benzema, Carvajal, Vazquez sending giving him 20 assists per game.

As for Madrid, they need to get a killer like Kane (would score the double of goals in Madrid than in the Spurs) that would give them something similar to what Ronaldo gives in the last years that he became more a striker, instead of a player like Neymar that plays more from the wing, Madrid has plenty of players in that position.

They would still be the best club in the world, with most UCLs won, twice as Bayern and Barca.

Do you really think that Madrid has won all of this because of Ronaldo??! Madrid has the best squad in the world by far, even without Ronaldo... Marcelo, Ramos, Varane, Carvajal, Casemiro, Modric, Kross, Isco, Bale, Benzema, Asensio, Vazquez, Kovacic, Nacho. Plus others that also helped Madrid to win UCL this years like Xavi Alonso, Pepe, James, Morata, Di Maria, etc.... Really??!! :wenger::lol:


Its easy to talk shite when you have no idea of what you are talking about... Real Madrid fans are hard to please, that is true, that level of demand is what makes Madrid so successful. They would never keep in the team players that do not perform top level always.

But Madrid fans booing Ronaldo is not because they are classless, but because every single Madrid fan knows that the club is bigger than any player, but Ronaldo has tried several times (and failed all of them) to prove that he is more important. Ronaldo hasn't been booed in the last 2 years from Madrid's fans, but after his attitude and words after thet last UCL final, you can be sure if he stayed he would be booed again. Thats it.

Its a shame that he will have to learn how big is Madrid when he goes out the club, and he never wins a UCL or a Ballon D'or again, and he stops scoring 1 goal per game.

Ah yes, so Ronaldo consistently clutching it in the knockout stages of the CL year in year out is nothing to do with him.. I especially liked that wonderful assist from Carvajal in the quarter final against Juve, all Ronaldo had to do is fall over backwards and it went in.. Messi has a great team around him and they've struggled to get past the QF 3 years in a row now. Pre-Ronaldo your all mighty Real failed to get past the R16 stage 5 years in a row.

Good luck leading the line with Benzema up front.. or with Kane. As good as he is, he doesn't hold a candle to Ronaldo. Good finishing, hold up play, but nowhere near the same dribbling, athleticism or movement as Ronaldo. You'll see that once you get him.

And yes, Modric, Ramos, Marcelo, Benzema are all key players in your team, but they're reaching the tail end of their careers. Football is very cyclical, teams reach a peak, and then decline, and it's very hard to replace world class players for a variety of reasons - the young guns coming up might not reach that level, new signings are a gamble, and the old-timers hang on to the shadow of a team. Outside of Benzema your best attackers will be Isco, Asensio and Bale.. one's injured half the time and for the other two look at Spain's performance in the world cup. Isco's skillful but with next to no end product, Asensio is very talented and could imo be great but currently about half the player Ronaldo was at the same age, when he was on his way to banging in 42 goals in a season and winning the Ballon D'or with United.

You can't simply buy the Ronaldo's, Bale's of this world anymore either - PSG can beat you easily financially as they have for Neymar and Mbappe, and City, Barca, United and probably even Liverpool can match you financially for other players. You think it's a coincidence that players like Morata and James have left and you've barely signed any replacements? You think it's a coincidence Zidane's jumped ship if he didn't think the team was coming to the end of its cycle?

Look, I get it, when players want to leave, it leaves a bitter taste and you tend to want to downplay that players achievements. We had that with Rooney wanting to leave around 2010. But you are talking about a player who's consistently ranked as one of the best of all time.. to downplay his achievements so much is incredible. He didn't become great at Real, he was great at United and won the CL, 3 leagues and the Ballon D'or by the time he was 23. After he left, in the next 4 years we won the league twice and finished level on points (lost to GD) and 1 point behind the other two times. Pretty easily he could've won at least say 3 out of those 4 leagues with us had he stayed, instead he left to play at a poor Madrid team in 09 that regularly fielded players like Granero, Garay, Albiol and Guti. He actively pushed for that transfer, and yet he gets little love at Madrid.

The simple reality is that you remove Ronaldo from that Real team and they don't win anywhere close to 3 CL's in the last 3 years (a combined total of 43 CL goals in those 3 seasons!), whereas most other players in that team you could replace reasonably easily with subs. You'll learn that once he leaves.
 
Quick...someone scour Mourinho's family twitter for a whiteboard picture!
 


450 is a nice number to end it on. Won't be an easy record to be broken.

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That's got to be impossible to beat, as it'd be pretty amazing for a striker to last there 9 years, let alone score 50 a season!

The Real Madrid fans suddenly downplaying the man are incredible. At least wait until he's gone before pretending he was rubbish :)
 
How Real can agree to sell him?

They are losing around 45 goals for each season. It's not possible with one player.
Barca had to replace Neymar with Coutinho and Neymar and they still had Messi, how this should be possible for Real without paying 400-500€M?
This is only true if we would replace him with a training cone.
 
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Make no mistake, Juve IS NOT Real Madrid, and you will start seeing it soon. Just ask Ozil, Di Maria, Alonso, Pepe, Morata, James, etc how much have they won after going out from Madrid...:nono:

In the same manner, let's compare what you win in the next few years, compared to with Ronaldo...
 
He is one of the best players in the world, who is at the tail end of his career. He learnt from Zlatan that it is best for the longevity of your career to take the easiest path to success.

To move to a physical and fast paced league (he knows from first hand experience how rough PL defenders are) to a club that will have to compete with 2-3 other clubs is not a rational decision.

Juventus are the big dogs in their league, and can focus on the CL more. That fits Ronaldo to a tee.

I see that, but it would be special if he had joined us again. Would be a huge lift for us. Then again, other players probably make more sense.
 
I hope we're not in for him. If we sign him it will sum up how poorly the club has been run since SAF.
 
I've got to be honest, a part of me hoped we'd land Ronaldo or Bale this summer, looks like that's very much off the table now. Just hope we do some quality business, time is running out.
 
This is only true if we would replace him with a training cone.

Neymar has never scored 40 goals in a season.

Madrid has had some superb strikers. You must remember many. I'm guessing neither of us is old enough to remember much beyond Hugo Sanchez but in recent memory we've seen Zamorano, Raul etc. Neymar is on that level. Ronaldo is on a whole different level.

Replacing him will be like replacing Di Stefano. Its something that may never happen in the history of your club ever again.
 
We should’ve been all over this, he’s still clearly an absolute machine and he’d be our best chance of clawing City back. Really hope we’ve got some good stuff in the pipeline.
 
Neymar has never scored 40 goals in a season.

Madrid has had some superb strikers. You must remember many. I'm guessing neither of us is old enough to remember much beyond Hugo Sanchez but in recent memory we've seen Zamorano, Raul etc. Neymar is on that level. Ronaldo is on a whole different level.

Replacing him will be like replacing Di Stefano. Its something that may never happen in the history of your club ever again.
Agree with everything you say. My point is that we won't be losing 45 goals a season unless his replacement scores 0 goals.
 
Juventus' stock price going up is not particularly relevant to the actual impact of Ronaldo on their financials. It's a short term reaction to a news event, and there are many other indicators that will have to be monitored over the medium term to see how their financials are impacted. The jump in price is however a good sign of a deal happening as there is likely some insider information.

Souce: I'm a trader on the markets.
Maybe they can issue shares at the inflated price to fund the transfer?
 
It will be hilarious when he announces he's in fact staying put. He's a fabulous, magnificent player but there's always a soap opera around the corner with him.
 
100 per cent. Ronaldo will score at least 40 goals wherever he plays next season.

People are forgetting a 35 year old Zlatan scored 50 times in a calendar year in 2016 and Ronaldo is a far superior player to Zlatan.

I can't believe some posters seem so blind to Ronaldo's quality as a player. As I've said repeatedly, the kind of names being floated as replacements for Ronaldo come nowhere near to his goal scoring record. Not to mention his record in big games. How many Classicos has he been decisive in? How many Champions League ties has he decided?

We're talking about a player who has scored 60 goals in a season twice, a player who has routinely scored 50 goals a season, a player who has more goals than games for Madrid. It actually makes me laugh that some people think Neymar or Hazard can replace Ronaldo. It reminds me of people saying Ariel Ortega could replace Diego Maradona.

No one can come close to Ronaldo. He is one of the best goalscorers ever. You're not going to find anybody of his caliber. But a good striker can score a lot of goals in this Real Madrid. Take Morata for example, last year he scored 20 goals playing very little or Bale this year, he scored 21 goals being a substitute or injured almost all season. Someone like Kane would score 40-50 goals easy. But I think they should give Bale the oportunity to be the man, if he stays healthy, which is a big IF, he could be what their looking for.
 
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Winning a Champions League with Juventus would do absolute wonders to Ronaldo’s legacy.
 
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