EyeInTheSky
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To all the accountants moaning about the cash involved
And it’s still nowhere near enough...
How much will it crash when he re-signs
To all the accountants moaning about the cash involved
This got me thinking: let’s say Ronaldo does leave for Turin, what’s a realistic target for him in terms of goals? Only six players have ever scored 100+ goals in Juventus’ colours (Del Piero, Bonaperti, Bettega, Trezeguet, Sivori and Borel). Surely that’s an achievable goal for a player with such lofty ambitions and an incredible will to succeed. Over the course of four injury-free seasons with 50+ games a season, I wouldn’t bet against him surpassing the 100-goal mark.
Also, has any player ever scored 100+ goals for three top-level clubs before, let alone across three different leagues?
I think if he stays there 4 years, 100 goals is definitely achievable.
Plenty of records to be broken, if wins the Ballon D'Or he'd become the first player to win it for 3 different clubs. If he wins the league he'd become the first player to win the Premier League, La Liga and Serie A. If he wins the Champions League he'd be the second player to win it 6 times and the second player to win it for 3 different clubs. It's the perfect move for his legacy, he could stay at Madrid and be comfortable but this is the right move for him.
Quite. I’m really not a Mourinho fan but those kind of posts are infuriating. Real lack of actual knowledge.
To all the accountants moaning about the cash involved
While we are on the topic of money :
For every season that Ronaldo trained with United - from age 18 to 23 - the club receives 0.5 per cent of the overall transfer fee.
Ronaldo was there for six seasons in that time frame, which means £440,000 (0.5 per cent of £88m) needs to be multiplied by that number
Therefore, United should pocket around £2,640,000 if Juventus sign Ronaldo for £88m.
Sporting Lisbon will also earn a little reward, and should receive around £1,320,000.
Juventus' stock price going up is not particularly relevant to the actual impact of Ronaldo on their financials. It's a short term reaction to a news event, and there are many other indicators that will have to be monitored over the medium term to see how their financials are impacted. The jump in price is however a good sign of a deal happening as there is likely some insider information.
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450 is a nice number to end it on. Won't be an easy record to be broken.
@Cezzine you vastly underrate what Ronaldo is if you think it's the players around him that are making him look as good as he does. You talk about the service he gets from Marcelo, Modric, Benzema, etc. but just wait and watch the service he'll get from Pjanic, Douglas Costa, Dybala..
With Ronaldo it's always been the same, he wouldn't look good without Rooney alongside him, then he wouldn't look good without Ozil or Di Maria and now he won't look good without Marcelo and Modric. If you think it's impossible for him to keep scoring once a game then I think you'll be shocked.
He'll end his career with more goals for his country than anyone in football history... while playing for Portugal. He makes the service look better than it is and you'll see it next season when Marcelo, Kroos and Lucas Vasquez get into crossing positions and there will be noone to aim at or noone dragging 2 or 3 defenders away. Madrid have enough money and quality to still be at the top but you vastly underrate Ronaldo's influence on the way this Madrid team works. Plenty will have to change, you won't just get a good striker and play the same way. That won't work.
Expect Ronaldo's goal tally to go drastically lower in Juventus. He won't have Marcelo, Kross, Modric, Benzema, Carvajal, Vazquez sending giving him 20 assists per game.
As for Madrid, they need to get a killer like Kane (would score the double of goals in Madrid than in the Spurs) that would give them something similar to what Ronaldo gives in the last years that he became more a striker, instead of a player like Neymar that plays more from the wing, Madrid has plenty of players in that position.
They would still be the best club in the world, with most UCLs won, twice as Bayern and Barca.
Do you really think that Madrid has won all of this because of Ronaldo??! Madrid has the best squad in the world by far, even without Ronaldo... Marcelo, Ramos, Varane, Carvajal, Casemiro, Modric, Kross, Isco, Bale, Benzema, Asensio, Vazquez, Kovacic, Nacho. Plus others that also helped Madrid to win UCL this years like Xavi Alonso, Pepe, James, Morata, Di Maria, etc.... Really??!!
Its easy to talk shite when you have no idea of what you are talking about... Real Madrid fans are hard to please, that is true, that level of demand is what makes Madrid so successful. They would never keep in the team players that do not perform top level always.
But Madrid fans booing Ronaldo is not because they are classless, but because every single Madrid fan knows that the club is bigger than any player, but Ronaldo has tried several times (and failed all of them) to prove that he is more important. Ronaldo hasn't been booed in the last 2 years from Madrid's fans, but after his attitude and words after thet last UCL final, you can be sure if he stayed he would be booed again. Thats it.
Its a shame that he will have to learn how big is Madrid when he goes out the club, and he never wins a UCL or a Ballon D'or again, and he stops scoring 1 goal per game.
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450 is a nice number to end it on. Won't be an easy record to be broken.
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This is only true if we would replace him with a training cone.How Real can agree to sell him?
They are losing around 45 goals for each season. It's not possible with one player.
Barca had to replace Neymar with Coutinho and Neymar and they still had Messi, how this should be possible for Real without paying 400-500€M?
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Make no mistake, Juve IS NOT Real Madrid, and you will start seeing it soon. Just ask Ozil, Di Maria, Alonso, Pepe, Morata, James, etc how much have they won after going out from Madrid...
Only Juve want him. Perez is delighted he can now go for Neymar.a transfer of this magnitude is happening pretty bloody quickly and smoothly
Real are just too good with the transfersOnly Juve want him. Perez is delighted he can now go for Neymar.
Just wait for the CAF accountants though to tell us about the myths associated with player marketing.
He is one of the best players in the world, who is at the tail end of his career. He learnt from Zlatan that it is best for the longevity of your career to take the easiest path to success.
To move to a physical and fast paced league (he knows from first hand experience how rough PL defenders are) to a club that will have to compete with 2-3 other clubs is not a rational decision.
Juventus are the big dogs in their league, and can focus on the CL more. That fits Ronaldo to a tee.
This is only true if we would replace him with a training cone.
I think so too.He is not going. Classic ronaldo-perez story. He will sign new contract.
This is another very good example of why it’s nonsense and how said nonsense perpetuates.
I can see press conf. " It was not about money. I just wanted to feel appreciated. Madrid is my home and i will finish my career here."I think so too.
Agree with everything you say. My point is that we won't be losing 45 goals a season unless his replacement scores 0 goals.Neymar has never scored 40 goals in a season.
Madrid has had some superb strikers. You must remember many. I'm guessing neither of us is old enough to remember much beyond Hugo Sanchez but in recent memory we've seen Zamorano, Raul etc. Neymar is on that level. Ronaldo is on a whole different level.
Replacing him will be like replacing Di Stefano. Its something that may never happen in the history of your club ever again.
Maybe they can issue shares at the inflated price to fund the transfer?Juventus' stock price going up is not particularly relevant to the actual impact of Ronaldo on their financials. It's a short term reaction to a news event, and there are many other indicators that will have to be monitored over the medium term to see how their financials are impacted. The jump in price is however a good sign of a deal happening as there is likely some insider information.
Souce: I'm a trader on the markets.
100 per cent. Ronaldo will score at least 40 goals wherever he plays next season.
People are forgetting a 35 year old Zlatan scored 50 times in a calendar year in 2016 and Ronaldo is a far superior player to Zlatan.
I can't believe some posters seem so blind to Ronaldo's quality as a player. As I've said repeatedly, the kind of names being floated as replacements for Ronaldo come nowhere near to his goal scoring record. Not to mention his record in big games. How many Classicos has he been decisive in? How many Champions League ties has he decided?
We're talking about a player who has scored 60 goals in a season twice, a player who has routinely scored 50 goals a season, a player who has more goals than games for Madrid. It actually makes me laugh that some people think Neymar or Hazard can replace Ronaldo. It reminds me of people saying Ariel Ortega could replace Diego Maradona.
Maybe they can issue shares at the inflated price to fund the transfer?
It will be hilarious when he announces he's in fact staying put. He's a fabulous, magnificent player but there's always a soap opera around the corner with him.
He is not going. Classic ronaldo-perez story. He will sign new contract.
Fabregas, vidal, ronaldinho, ramos, sneijder all agreed terms with us. Some of them even did medical..... by media reportsHe has already agreed terms with Juve.
This.I hope we're not in for him. If we sign him it will sum up how poorly the club has been run since SAF.