The figure 28 is irrelavant to be fair. Ronaldo will naturally have missed more because he's been playing for 20 years. It has to be based on percentage. I would prefer Bruno simply because his conversion percentage is one of the best in the world. However, 83% for Ronaldo over a period of 20 years is pretty impressive too. I wouldn't be too fussed which one took them, but from a Utd perspective there is absolutely no reason Bruno should be taken off them.
Cristiano Ronaldo - Man Utd Player
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I know Ronaldo doesn't run around as much as he used to and reserves his energy for more explosive and effective bursts. But does anyone know if he still has explosive pace? Any stats to show this? He's always looked pretty sharp but I've not seen him in a long sprint for a while. I can imagine he's still quicker than most defenders.
Was just looking at his brief stats on FBref and he still does most things to a very elite standard. He surprisingly passes the ball a lot more than I expected (and decently accurately) considering he’s seen as a bit of a goal-poacher these days. His dribbling stats are surprisingly strong too.
Only thing I was surprised by — why is his aerials won so low? Is it just a case of him not competing a lot?
https://fbref.com/en/players/dea698d9/Cristiano-Ronaldo
Only thing I was surprised by — why is his aerials won so low? Is it just a case of him not competing a lot?
https://fbref.com/en/players/dea698d9/Cristiano-Ronaldo
Wouldnt be so sure, Bruno probably gets a nice pay bonus for the goals he scores.
I reckon Ronaldo at 36 is still faster than David Beckham was when he played on the wing for United. I don't know but I still think we will see Ronaldo skin a few defenders this season. I mean look at Giggsy.. he was still doing it at bloody 39!
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I hope Bruno keeps the peno duty, he's done alright.
Yeah, it's just because Juve don't play 'hoof it up to the big lad' football. His success rate is actually still decent and he averages a headed goal every 3 games.
Must be the only time these two players have ever been compared.
But yeah, most aerial duels are just attempted flick-ons on the halfway line from long balls, not contested headers on the 6 yard line leading to a possible goal.Yeah, it's just because Juve don't playing 'hoof it up to the big lad' football. His success rate is actually still decent and he averages a headed goal every 3 games.
Must be the only time these two players have ever been compared.
what a comparison that is. Cheers, makes a lot sense. Is that Squawka? I never know which stat site is most vogue — so many floating around!Might help us when we get into pen kicks in finals.
Ehh, not really. Rooney had a similar record, and nobody called him a good penalty taker.
One thing I'm worried about is his hold up play as a #9. I think Cavani has superior hold up play to him, and I think we will miss that aspect.
Rooney took nowhere near as many penalties. Ronaldo is definitely better at them than him.
Need to find a keeper who can save them first
Not really relevant, we are talking about rate of success here. He took enough(60) to get a good idea about his rate. Rooney's rate of success is 80% and Ronaldo's 83%. There's not much in it.
Yeah, just use it because their comparison thing is nice and easy to use and set up to only compare specific stats (so if you really want to so how Ronaldo stacks up to Chris Wood in the air, you can!).
I think the fbref one you're using has the more detailed stuff though and it's nice to see how one player compares to everyone else who plays the same position.
Penaldo will get his way. We'll see.
Stats can be misleading.
He's still (up until this very point) extremely dangerous in the air.
If the pass is good, he'll be a greater asset than any player in the world in terms of getting a dangerous header on goal. That's one thing nobody can take away from him - he's arguably the most lethal aerial threat ever (right up there anyway). And he still has most of that intact (I hope).
He obviously needs service, though (as any finisher does).
The club really are milking this, aren't they? Now I'm getting Ronaldo interviews as YouTube ads for MUTV.
I don't remember many complaining he was a bad penalty taker either. He was more than good enough on penalties. If he stepped up for a penalty majority of fans were always confident.
To say 83% conversion is not good enough is unrealistic. Anything with 8 out of 10 or above is a brilliant conversion rate.
Yeah also Rooney tended to miss more "unimportant" penalties, when the game was pretty much already won. When he stepped up for meaningful ones, he was usually switched on and was quite reliable. He was fine at it, just as Ronaldo is. Bruno's record is exceptional at this stage - it's probably it will go down somewhat, but he might just be a freak of nature when it comes to pens and keep up this exceptional record.
Either way, I really doubt CR won't be taking pens from now on, if he's on the pitch.
So true. There a new kid... Hendo something. Heard he ain't bad at pens.
At $400k per week, they better do.
Bailley's back in training. Hopefully, he doesn't karate kick Ronnie with his first contact.
All the hype and all i saw in his first training session was him kicking the ball three times. What was the cameraman doing?
Feels like forever ago since that mad Friday and then the actual signing on deadline day. Fecking international break
Feels like forever ago since that mad Friday and then the actual signing on deadline day. Fecking international break
Can you imagine if they listen to fecking Wenger and have the WC every two years? There will be nearly as many international breaks/matches as there are league matches. He can feck off with this stupid idea. I rather have the ESL than WC every two years.
It would literally destroy football. I have no idea why anybody would be that interested in international football to welcome a fecking WC every two years.
Absolutely ridiculous idea.
Oh there were complaints. That's why when RvP came he became the default penalty taker.
There were loads of complaints, and justifiably so.
Rooney scored 23 out of 33 penalties in the PL. He dragged his career numbers up significantly after moving to MLS and the Championship.
That's 69% conversion - not comparable to Ronaldo.
Yes, I know. His career conversion rate is 80%, which is comparable to Ronaldo
I was replying specifically to the poster who said they didn't remember United fans complaining about Rooney's penalties when there were actually a lot - as echoed just above my post
By the way, a more valid comparison for the people getting hung up on sample sizes* and confidently saying Fernandes's conversion rate will drop as he takes more and more of them (of course, there's every chance it will drop from 93% - literally no basis, however, to be so confident that the drop will be the nearly 10% it would need to take him below Ronaldo):
Fernandes has scored 42 out of 45 career penalties. Let's compare that with Ronaldo's last 45 penalties: 38 scored and 7 missed (which is virtually the same as his career percentage, incidentally - almost like that's how it works)
There's not really an argument to be had here if you're not biased one way or the other: Ronaldo is a very good penalty taker, Fernandes is simply better.
*for example, this guy (not picking on anyone but this has been said a bunch of times in the thread and this was the most recent example I found):
Fernandes has scored 42 out of 45 career penalties. Let's compare that with Ronaldo's last 45 penalties: 38 scored and 7 missed (which is virtually the same as his career percentage, incidentally - almost like that's how it works
)There's not really an argument to be had here if you're not biased one way or the other: Ronaldo is a very good penalty taker, Fernandes is simply better.
*for example, this guy (not picking on anyone but this has been said a bunch of times in the thread and this was the most recent example I found):
Bailly and Jones must be kept as far away from Ronaldo as possible.
Is there a full interview with him yet? Or only that initial one of 4 minutes?
His goal against Germany in the Euro he was lightning in the counter.
But as you said he tends to not do it much. Assumingly to save his body from injuries
Yup, basically the length of the pitch in less than 15 seconds if I recall correctly.
Sorry I just saw this. I'll try and find the quotes again shortly.
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