Suddenly he's odds on to go to Sporting.....yesterday he was 4/9 to stay at United... Let's get rid and get in Antony and Gakpo. Can rotate with Rashford, Martial, Sancho, Garnacho, Elanga.
Cristiano Ronaldo (I stay)
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How is it revisionism if we scored more goals before his arrival, more points and a better league finish? Performances might not have been great, but that trend continued last year, so it's a bit of a "much of a muchness". Fact remains, no one knows how we would have performed had his signing never happened but yet there are still some who thinks we'd have been in a relegation scrap "without his goals"....as if they would have just magically not been spread out to the rest of the team etc.
Depends whether we sign a new striker or not.
For who? What do we get out of it? We pay his wages, he plays CL with Sporting and what's exactly left for us?
First of all, if we can't use Ronaldo now why would we ever want him back one year older? Makes zero sense.
That would be nice and all with Osimhen for us, but why would Napoli ever go for that?
I mean for him. If he goes he will be playing in an easier league with CL football and will be close to family. I'm assuming that if he goes he'll terminate his contract with us.
Who gives a crap what makes sense for him? He won't terminate his contract with us because it's a lot of money and Sporting would like to pay even half of that salary. So his only option is to play for free which I don't see the "King" doing.
I can see it. We send Ronaldo on loan after extending his contract, admiting our inferiority here and allowing the king to play his CL football by a matter of divine justice. We need him but we can't get in his way. It's May 2023 and we've qualified for the CL, so we become worthy of his presence. Fans are delighted, Ronaldo is here! He'll save us in the CL group stage again!
The manager is buzzing, finally he can play a 38 years old Ronaldo in his "pressing all day" tactics. Nobody is stopping us. When his new gold statue is unveiled at Old Trafford the aliens come, and they name him the best player in the whole universe. Suck it up, Messi. Then Ronaldo wakes up, it's summer 2022. The phone is ringing. Sad news. He's been rejected by Copenhagen.
I can see it. We send Ronaldo on loan after extending his contract, admiting our inferiority here and allowing the king to play his CL football by a matter of divine justice. We need him but we can't get in his way. It's May 2023 and we've qualified for the CL, so we become worthy of his presence. Fans are delighted, Ronaldo is here! He'll save us in the CL group stage again!
The manager is buzzing, finally he can play a 38 years old Ronaldo in his "pressing all day" tactics. Nobody is stopping us. When his new gold statue is unveiled at Old Trafford the aliens come, and they name him the best player in the whole universe. Suck it up, Messi. Then Ronaldo wakes up, it's summer 2022. The phone is ringing. Sad news. He's been rejected by Copenhagen.
Ive always been kind of amused by players in this situation. He has clearly made a shit ton of money, more than he and his family will ever need/be able to spend. He has set up his kids to be in a situation where they never will have to work or do anything. He still could clearly make a lot of money on advertising/non soccer on field pay. So if you truly want one last shot at UCL go to one of the top teams and tell them youll play for peanuts and just make that last hurrah. Shit im sure even bayern would say ok to adding ronaldo if he wanted like 15k a week or something. Do some advertising work in germany to make up some of the lost money to add to your ridiculously huge stack of money youve made
Ronaldo scoring at Anfield for Napoli will be nice.
Not only players, but people in general. Fat cats like Musk and Bezos, they got the money to eradicate homelessness and end poverty but they keep wanting more and pay their workers shit.
They could be real life Santa or Batman but instead they are hoarding gold like a fairytale dragon.
Same with Ronaldo. He could play for free for Sporting and help them, but he wants to add to his gold hoard.
There is some excelent stuff they are smoking in Napoli.
feck Napoli.
Funny thing is if Woody was still here, he’d probably sanction it.
who would be stupid enough to go for a deal like that? Ridiculous!
Hat's off to the PR team at Napoli, that's some high-quality trolling right there
Ronaldo that desperate to leave he wants to run home back to Sporting.
Loves the club though...
Loves the club though...
Give them Maguire+AWB and Ronaldo, that should cover their request.
He probably wouldn't have scored as many here given that the team behind him would not be anywhere near as good (Madrid invested ALOT in their team beyond Cristiano). And he would have played under the likes of Moyes and Van Gaal. So it is more likely we would have deprived him of his success.
That would probably increase the price to 150 million, plus cover all of their wages.
Sporting's coach has said they don't want him.
Napoli are fecking mad bastards. They have their own transfer fee system over there. Every player they have starts at £100m, then you roll a dice and add it together for the final price.
Didn't they pay about £70m for that lad though? I remember it being a stupid amount of money.
Going to Sporting is the end of his career at the top level. It's an admittance he is finished at the highest level in Europe.
A sentimental move but not pragmatic unless it is a short term loan. No one is going to touch him in 23/24 when he is 39.
A sentimental move but not pragmatic unless it is a short term loan. No one is going to touch him in 23/24 when he is 39.
It would be terribly amusing to see Messi score 5 in his first CL game with Ronaldo sitting in the stands scrambling for a CL club he can statpad at.
Lets do it, give them Casemiro and Sancho also. Anything so Ronaldo can play UCL.
It’s a shame it’s gotten to this stage and I’ve never really been drawn into the whole Messi v Ronaldo
But it would be sweet if Argentina and PSG won the WC and CL this season
The funniest would be Ronaldo being loaned to the likes of Rangers, dropping down to the EL and then getting hammered by a revitalized Utd. Coming from West Belfast it would be hilarious to watch the opinions change on Ronnie with a move like that, the shirts being burned.
I don't hate him, appreciate the great years he gave Utd but it was a stupid move by both parties and his obsession with pumping his record comes across as rather pathetic to me, but others might admire the ambition.
Because the Ole 2nd place season was built on sand.
We were getting away with things.
The same team and same strategy wouldn't have been 2nd the next year, with Chelsea and Liverpool resurgent.
With crowds back.
With us perhaps not coming back from deficits 15 or so times like we had the year before.
With us getting loads of pens.
I agree. Though I'm not sure how pumping a record by joining a team that doesn't really have a hope of winning the CL could be called ambition. I think that's more self-promotion, which was the thing that really irked me about him in his first spell at Utd.
Just told us to f...ck of. We can do nothing, but oblige.
Yeah, look I was no defender of Ole and after a certain point was always convinced he wasn’t the man to take us forward. But I just don’t agree with the “we would have been even worse off without Ronaldo last season” crowd because there’s just no way of knowing that and we have evidence that we were actually better off without him the season before.
He'd probably regard that as beneath him. I've no doubt that he genuinely believes he's still just about the best player in the world. So, from his perspective, these clubs should want him enough to pay what he's worth.
Anyway, I don't think Bayern or any other club competing for the biggest prizes would take him even if he agreed to 15k per week.
The problem for those clubs isn't first and foremost the money, but the fact the he is likely to want a lot of minutes/be a key player (to a considerable degree).
We finished 3rd the season before that too, so it's not like the 2nd place came out of the blue as an unprecedented Leicester style overachievement.
We overachieved a little bit, no doubt. We were definitely not the 2nd best team in the league in terms of potential before the start of last season. But then again, it reeks of agenda posting when people start suggesting that we were objectively a mid-table team.
We were - I'd say - the 4th best team in England during Ole's two full seasons in charge.
Aye, yeah it's all BS, truth be told. "We'd have been in trouble or even worse off without Ronaldo". Can't take anyone who says that with any conviction, seriously.
Hard truth is, no one knows, but at least there's some evidence backing up the opposing view - we were actually better off without him. The league table doesn't lie.
It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he stays and does well. But I think we'd have to adapt our system to accommodate him.
With De Gea's poor distribution and a lack of quality replacements available, it might make sense to play more direct up to a player that's decent in the air and at holding up the ball. Play for the second ball press and counter quickly, rather than pressing relentlessly from the front.
It's not the progressive football we want but with Martial's inability to stay fit, and time running out in the transfer market, we might just have to compromise.
Ideally, you disrespect the club like this, and you're gone. But no one fecking wants him. We're in a difficult situation.
With De Gea's poor distribution and a lack of quality replacements available, it might make sense to play more direct up to a player that's decent in the air and at holding up the ball. Play for the second ball press and counter quickly, rather than pressing relentlessly from the front.
It's not the progressive football we want but with Martial's inability to stay fit, and time running out in the transfer market, we might just have to compromise.
Ideally, you disrespect the club like this, and you're gone. But no one fecking wants him. We're in a difficult situation.
Agreed.
It's mostly based on the "no Ronaldo = 18 less goals = relegation struggle" logic. Which doesn't deserve any serious response, really.
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