AlexUTD
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Feels like the ex gf that broke up with you but got rejected by the new guy so she is coming back home
Michelle Platini and zinedine Zidane didn’t have Ronaldo levels of stardom. Not comparable.And players before grew up idolising Michele Platini and Zinedine Zidane. How’s that helped their reputation in the outside world.
I’d actually be interested in if, legacy wise, Messi even manages to live on as much as Ronaldinho despite being the far more successful player.
Ronaldo has completely misread the room. I expect he will be booed next time he playsWell that's all good and well but nobody wants him...
Yes because we now believe literally every media report. Plus nobody wants him. What other choice does he have, not train or play for the entire season?So this makes it clear that him having personal issues which ruled him out of pre-season had nothing to do with wanting to leave.
If i remember correctly the Ronaldo song was replaced by 'Viva John Terry!' pretty quickly at the start of the 08-09 season and a lot of people were pissed off with him, me included. We started that season in not great form though and as soon as he made his return from injury against Villarreal he actually got a really good reception and lifted the mood when he came on as a sub.Ronaldo has completely misread the room. I expect he will be booed next time he plays
Didn't Palace have unvaccinated players that didn't travel to Australia? Could the "personal issues" simply be that he wasn't vaccinated and as such couldn't travel there?So this makes it clear that him having personal issues which ruled him out of pre-season had nothing to do with wanting to leave.
He is quite capable of playing the way we need. ETH might just be the man to get him to do this every game.If i remember correctly the Ronaldo song was replaced by 'Viva John Terry!' pretty quickly at the start of the 08-09 season and a lot of people were pissed off with him, me included. We started that season in not great form though and as soon as he made his return from injury against Villarreal he actually got a really good reception and lifted the mood when he came on as a sub.
Wonder if the same thing might happen again.
He is quite capable of playing the way we need. ETH might just be the man to get him to do this every game.
He is quite capable of playing the way we need. ETH might just be the man to get him to do this every game.
This is all just your opinion and doesn’t come close to reflecting the truth. How can Ronaldo be much closer to phelps - who in your opinion doesn’t belong in the company of the others as far as sports icons are concerned yet you label Messi close to them. So you’re saying Messi has been a far bigger icon than Ronaldo over the past decade? That isn’t remotely true.
Go check up on who the current generation of players idolised growing up (18-21). It’s 90% Ronaldo. Mbappe, Sancho, Vlahovic, Halaand, Rodrygo, Grealish etc etc. Even guys that are now 26-29 grew up idolising him more than any other footballer. Not to mention his superior social media following.
Your loath of Ronaldo is clearly clouding judgment here.
I get your point but the report does say he still wants to leave. And he was given compassionate leave so technically he has no apologising to do. The club accepted the reason for his absence.If he apologises to the locker room for his antics despite not publicly saying he wants out like Rooney did and he gives 100% to ETH in training and on the pitch then no harm done.
Yawn.Total BS..
Messi is by far the more admired player both in the managers and players world. Even Ronaldo's teammates think Messi is easily better other than a few exceptions. That tells you everything you need to know about Ronaldo's standing.
Ronaldo is the most famous footballer in the world for a reason as well as being more idolized by younger generations.Total BS..
Messi is by far the more admired player both in the managers and players world. Even Ronaldo's former United teammates think Messi is easily better other than a few exceptions. That tells you everything you need to know about Ronaldo's standing vs Messi.
sure care to post a reference to this BS percentage?90% of the younger generation idolise Ronaldo.
Messi doesn't give a feck about social media, doesn't even have a twitter. Imagine thinking social follower count is what determines the legacy of a player.They were all posting about him on their social media accounts as kids and really cba to dig it up now. I’ve hardly seen that for Messi.
And how many of Ronaldo’s teammates have said Messi is better? I only know of a few.
Ronaldo is the most famous footballer in the world for a reason as well as being more idolized by younger generations.
Who people believe is better is a never ending debate however the most popular player in the world? Ronaldo. Social media following is only a portion of the reason.
You misunderstood what I said. I didn’t say social media count. I said that most of the top young talents of today idolised Ronaldo as a kid and celebrated him on their social media accounts. I’ve since edited my post to show a few anecdotes so you can go back and check. Your current wonder kid striker thinks he’s the GOAT too.Messi doesn't give a feck about social media, doesn't even have a twitter. Imagine thinking social follower count is what determines the legacy of a player
I remember a Fergie interview where he was asked why Ronaldo didnt help defend and Fergie said "Because I dont want him to, he has a job elsewhere". I am pretty sure he will if askedI was just coming here to post this. You beat me to it.
Just a shame Bruno took and missed the pen that would’ve helped cap off a great performance and probably salvage our top 4 hopes for another matchday.
If only Ronaldo would have been as selfish as people on here lament him for eh?
You can say that all you want but their is a Messi Vs Ronaldo debate for a reason for the past 15 years and it is not just because of Portugal and Madrid Or else it would be a landslide. We know your ignorance already when it comes to this topic but it shocks me you continue to comment on it despite being taken to the cleaners every single time. "Relevant with stat padding" just happens to be yet another of your long list of awful takes.The debate is already settled outside Portugal, has always between Maradona, Pele and Messi with Ronaldo fanbois attempting to desperately make their guys relevant with stat-padding..
Having millions of followers in the football illiterate regions does not make you popular.. Based on your logic, Maradona or Pele are irrelevant with many random influencers more popular than them because of well social media count..
Randomly ask 100 managers/players from now, from history, Messi will be selected over Ronaldo easily almost every time other than a few times unless you are from Portugal or a Real fan. You are not impressing managers/players with your gym/sauna pictures on instagram..
Good shout.I’d actually be interested in if, legacy wise, Messi even manages to live on as much as Ronaldinho despite being the far more successful player.
My sentiments exactly.As I always said....He is staying.
Probably good news for United.
As for Ronaldo I understand he also wants the CL but listen, your 37 it is what it is your already the greatest CL player ever it is basically his competition their is nothing left to prove. Then again he has that relentless mindset but he has to let it go.
In conclusion finish up your contract at United, score your 30 help them make top 4 under ETH and come back home next summer
Least to say, Messi's superior teammate Mbappe admires Ronaldo more though.Total BS..
Messi is by far the more admired player both in the managers and players world. Even Ronaldo's former United teammates think Messi is easily better other than a few exceptions. That tells you everything you need to know about Ronaldo's standing vs Messi.
Least to say, Messi's superior teammate Mbappe admires Ronaldo more though.
But anyway, its rather pointless to argue who is the most "admired" player here. Messi could be the most talneted/best player in players mind, but Ronaldo could have the most admired career in player's mind too. While Messi could be the most talented/best player in coach mind, Ronaldo could be the ideal player managers most wanted too.
You misunderstood what I said. I didn’t say social media count. I said that most of the top young talents of today idolised Ronaldo as a kid and celebrated him on their social media accounts. I’ve since edited my post to show a few anecdotes so you can go back and check. Your current wonder kid striker thinks he’s the GOAT too.
Not really interested in going back and forth on this discussion.
Christ, we get it, you want to rim Messi.what are you talking about?
Messi is even more popular on this United forum than Ronaldo and that's before his pre-season antics, imagine the situation for other teams' neutral fans... and how everybody views Ronaldo now, the guy became the laughing stock of the football world, managed it all by himself thanks to his narcissism..
Former real United legends like Rooney, Giggs and Scholes explained their views clearly. Yeah, Ronaldo definitely has more admired career jump-shipping two years in a row now like a true leader and being whored around Europe just like last year & getting rejected left-right with no major award in years now. He definitely showed he is an ideal team player that put his team's interests over his own stats, last time I checked he was trying to make a move to Atletico even lowering his salary to switch from United, the club that made him for a so-called new "challenge", so noble
Messi and Ronaldo cannot be substituted one to one (as you always desperately attempt to suggest) as Ronaldo lacks top level technique, playmaking, passing, dribbling skills unlike Messi. Both are top goal scorers, that's the only are where they have similarities. Trophies, individual awards wise, Ronaldo is well behind as well.. No wonder Ronaldo's most passionate fans on this forum are Portuguese, I am not even an Argentine just like most Messi fans on this forum..
This is my final post about both players on this thread..