Cricket

[The Man Himself]

It is really incredible to see that someone could make 264 in a 50 over game.

I don't understand why people are undermining what he did simply because he did it in India and is used to the conditions. If it was that simple, it would have been happening much more regularly.
The 5 highest runs in test cricket (Lara, Hayden, Lara, Jayawardene & Sobers) have all come in their own backyards. Does it mean that we should just undermine them?

It is incredible, yes.
No, even in Indian condition, we won't be seeing 200 made so easily, let alone 264.

The problem or difference with all those whom you have named (including Mahela) is that everyone knew they were great players who achieved that feat at some stage whereas with Rohit, you know that more disappointment will be in store for Indian fans.

It is not fair to play down his achievement, even with how shite SL were and how many catches they dropped but because it is Rohit Sharma, you know that this won't mean that he will suddenly become more consistent or deliver for us overseas.

 

[sport2793]

This particular record is impressive for its sheer magnitude. But double centuries were unprecedented in the history of sports and now they happen every year in India, it'll rightfully get looked at. Indian batsmen are notoriously bad away and good enough to score double centuries at home in a regular basis. That says something about the lopsidedness of the conditions, no?

Plus, sports fans(or purists) usually sympathize with defenders, bowlers, whoever is limiting the attack.

Do you see the fault in your argument? We are talking about an ODI. If it was a test I would wholeheartedly agree.

 

[kiristao]

Even though he has done it twice now, I am not saying it makes him a great player (nor do I think anyone else was implying that).

I was merely pointing out to the fact that it is incredible what he has done and it should not be put down simply by saying it was scored in India, It was a flat pitch, SL are shit, etc.

Anyone who has played decent level of cricket will be able to tell you that it is incredible to maintain that kind of hitting for that long a period even against the worst of attacks.

 

[MJJ]

It is really incredible to see that someone could make 264 in a 50 over game.

I don't understand why people are undermining what he did simply because he did it in India and is used to the conditions. If it was that simple, it would have been happening much more regularly.
The 5 highest runs in test cricket (Lara, Hayden, Lara, Jayawardene & Sobers) have all come in their own backyards. Does it mean that we should just undermine them?

High scores
Player Runs Balls 4s 6s SR Team Opposition Ground Match Date Scorecard
RG Sharma 264 173 33 9 152.60 India v Sri Lanka Kolkata 13 Nov 2014
V Sehwag 219 149 25 7 146.97 India v West Indies Indore 8 Dec 2011
RG Sharma 209 158 12 16 132.27 India v Australia Bangalore 2 Nov 2013
SR Tendulkar 200* 147 25 3 136.05 India v South Africa Gwalior 24 Feb 2010

 

[KM]

Scoring 264 in 50 overs against an international team is an astounding achievement, no matter how you look at it. Again people who haven't played Cricket won't appreciate this achievement.

 

[KM]

Even though he has done it twice now, I am not saying it makes him a great player (nor do I think anyone else was implying that).

I was merely pointing out to the fact that it is incredible what he has done and it should not be put down simply by saying it was scored in India, It was a flat pitch, SL are shit, etc.

Anyone who has played decent level of cricket will be able to tell you that it is incredible to maintain that kind of hitting for that long a period even against the worst of attacks.

Exactly.

Undermining this and saying "oh it's India, lol!, #Banter" is extremely stupid.

 

[KM]

High scores
Player Runs Balls 4s 6s SR Team Opposition Ground Match Date Scorecard
RG Sharma 264 173 33 9 152.60 India v Sri Lanka Kolkata 13 Nov 2014
V Sehwag 219 149 25 7 146.97 India v West Indies Indore 8 Dec 2011
RG Sharma 209 158 12 16 132.27 India v Australia Bangalore 2 Nov 2013
SR Tendulkar 200* 147 25 3 136.05 India v South Africa Gwalior 24 Feb 2010

Do I need to guess your reaction when Saeed Anwar scored 194 on an indian pitch against the likes of Kuruvilla, Sunil Joshi whilst scoring half of the runs with a fecking runner?

 

[MJJ]

Scoring 264 in 50 overs against an international team is an astounding achievement, no matter how you look at it. Again people who haven't played Cricket won't appreciate this achievement.

Was wondering who would bring this up, just like people who havent played football couldnt really appreciate cleverley or similar bollocks about berbatov,moyes,etc on here.

Do I need to guess your reaction when Saeed Anwar scored 194 on an indian pitch against the likes of Kuruvilla, Sunil Joshi whilst scoring half of the runs with a fecking runner?

Let me guess what that has to do with the post you are replying to or the post I am replying to. Hint: Same thing it does with rohit sharmas record.

 

[KM]

Was wondering who would bring this up, just like people who havent played football couldnt really appreciate cleverley or similar bollocks about berbatov,moyes,etc on here.

Oh dear. It takes incredible endurance and skill to score that runs at that runrate. Take offence any way you want, but anyone undermining this record

1) Hasn't played cricket or;
2) Extremely dumb

Reading your posts in here, I'm guessing you fall in both of the categories.

 

[Spoony]

High scores
Player Runs Balls 4s 6s SR Team Opposition Ground Match Date Scorecard
RG Sharma 264 173 33 9 152.60 India v Sri Lanka Kolkata 13 Nov 2014
V Sehwag 219 149 25 7 146.97 India v West Indies Indore 8 Dec 2011
RG Sharma 209 158 12 16 132.27 India v Australia Bangalore 2 Nov 2013
SR Tendulkar 200* 147 25 3 136.05 India v South Africa Gwalior 24 Feb 2010

Flattest of flat tracks eh. Shame everything is loaded in favour of batsmen thesedays.

 

[MJJ]

Oh dear. It takes incredible endurance and skill to score that runs at that runrate. Take offence any way you want, but anyone undermining this record

1) Hasn't played cricket or;
2) Extremely dumb

Reading your posts in here, I'm guessing you fall in both of the categories.

Arent you suppose to be a newbie mod? Setting a good example I see.

Keep believing all Indian batsman have incredible endurance and skill that magically disappears away from home, come back to me when rohit sharma's incredible skill and endurance moves his average into the 30s overseas.

 

[KM]

Arent you suppose to be a newbie mod? Setting a good example I see.

Keep believing all Indian batsman have incredible endurance and skill that magically disappears away from home, come back to me when rohit sharma's incredible skill and endurance moves his average into the 30s overseas.

Well seeing as you got promoted, I must not be doing a good job then!

and I'm not surprised to see you not understanding my point.

 

[MJJ]

Well seeing as you got promoted, I must not be doing a good job then!

Nope, the admins just had more sense back then, then to make the likes of you a mod.

 

[Skills]

Flat tracks everywhere tbf - plenty in England. Unfortunately, we seem to attract the greatest set of dullards to ever walk on this planet to play cricket here who wank themselves silly as soon as they go above 4 RPO.

T20s (a.k.a. the greatest form of the game) done a lot for the game as well, so thankfully no longer a sport for the boring bastard. Nedt step in this process is booing off dickheads like Alastair Cook, Jonathan Trott and Ian Bell as soon as they show their faces to 'bat'.

 

[Skills]

This is like being back in primary school.

 

[KM]

Anyway back to more pressing issues in world cricket right now.

Seems like Srinivasan won't be getting back into BCCI fold back quickly. Been named in the Mudgal report.

 

[kotha]

Anyway back to more pressing issues in world cricket right now.

Seems like Srinivasan won't be getting back into BCCI fold back quickly. Been named in the Mudgal report.

Saw some reports that said there are some big name current players involved.. Hope that is not true.. Don't think ill trust cricket ever again if match fixing rears its ugly head again in our team..

 

[KM]

Saw some reports that said there are some big name current players involved.. Hope that is not true.. Don't think ill trust cricket ever again if match fixing rears its ugly head again in our team..

Aye very worrying that.

Due to legal reasons, we shouldn't speculate on the names of cricketers in this list but the rumor says that Mr. Cool and a leftie are also on the list which makes me extremely sad.

 

[zing]

Cricinfo's magazine had a cover story on Dhoni, in which he is quoted telling his agent he's done nothing wrong and there's nothing to be afraid of. I'm inclined to believe that.

Do not like Srinivasan, but my gut instinct is that there's a good amount of rumour mongering happening from the opposition here to unseat him at the BCCI.

 

[MJJ]

This is like being back in primary school.

 

[Donaldo]

Again people who haven't played Cricket won't appreciate this achievement.

Err, what?

 

[KM]

Err, what?

C'mon, are you seriously telling me that undermining that an individual scoring 264 in 50 overs just because it was played on an Indian pitch is a fair thing?

 

[Donaldo]

It's a superb achievement, just left me absolutely cold watching it. Unfortunately, watching sixes sail in well trod arcs isn't my idea of cricket.

The masses lap up this uneven combat though, so it will continue.

 

[kiristao]

Arent you suppose to be a newbie mod? Setting a good example I see.

Keep believing all Indian batsman have incredible endurance and skill that magically disappears away from home, come back to me when rohit sharma's incredible skill and endurance moves his average into the 30s overseas.

So basically what your saying is that what rohit Sharma did is no big deal because he is poor overseas.

 

[MJJ]

So basically what your saying is that what rohit Sharma did is no big deal because he is poor overseas.

Am saying that the fact the 200 marked has been breached four times in the past four years in India might have some relation to his achievement. Anyway am done arguing it, celebrate it like it means something and wasnt achieved with a massive amount of help.

 

[kiristao]

I don't think people are so impressed by those innings either tbf. Don't know about Sobers or Lara's 375.

If people are not impressed with those performances than they probably have very little knowledge of cricket.

 

[zing]

If people are not impressed with those performances than they probably have very little knowledge of cricket.

Hayden made 380 versus Zimbabwe. No one cares about that. There are around 2 triple centuries scored on average per season in the Ranji trophy for last 10 years. Given time and a shit enough bowling attack, for professional batsmen it is not much of an accomplishment. See Ravindra Jadeja. 3 triples and averages 21 in test cricket.

Jayawardene's averages 60 at home, 40 away. If you break down the away record excluding the sub-continent, he averages 35 in England, South Africa and 30 in Australia.

Most >300 scores are a waste of time and do not tell you anything about the batsman. Knuckling down on day 4-5 and saving a test after playing 300 balls to play for a draw is a far greater skill. Du Plessis in Adelaide and then in the India test last year, De Villiers in Adelaide, Amla's last knock in Sri Lanka are far greater accomplishments than smacking around some ordinary bowling attack on a pitch that doesn't bounce above knee level.

You sound like you have very little knowledge about cricket.

 

[zing]

264 will remain unachievable for a bit I would think, but 200 is not going to be so astonishing in a few years time unless they change the rules. Sachin's is the only 200 that came without the new rules, right? I saw that game live and that actually took effort -- and it was a very small ground.

I can genuinely see any top order batsmen in the Indian line-up getting there. Dhawan, Kohli for example.

 

[crappycraperson]

Cricinfo's magazine had a cover story on Dhoni, in which he is quoted telling his agent he's done nothing wrong and there's nothing to be afraid of. I'm inclined to believe that.

Do not like Srinivasan, but my gut instinct is that there's a good amount of rumour mongering happening from the opposition here to unseat him at the BCCI.

There is hardly any opposition to Srinivasan inside the BCCI, they were all set to elect him again. Also I doubt Justice Mudgal has put in his name as one of the accused in a SC report due to rumours. There is a reason why 4 out of total of 13 original names have been put in public domain. It is not necessarily that all 4 were directly involved in betting or fixing. In case of Sundar Raman and Srinivisan it could simply be the case of knowing about such activity and not stopping/reporting it.

 

[Insanity]

There is hardly any opposition to Srinivasan inside the BCCI, they were all set to elect him again. Also I doubt Justice Mudgal has put in his name as one of the accused in a SC report due to rumours. There is a reason why 4 out of total of 13 original names have been put in public domain. It is not necessarily that all 4 were directly involved in betting or fixing. In case of Sundar Raman and Srinivisan it could simply be the case of knowing about such activity and not stopping/reporting it.

That is exactly right. Due to the zonal system, it was east zone's turn to propose a candidate and Srini was a unanimous choice.

I do not understand how the president of the board was allowed to own an IPL team. It's a clear case of conflict of interest. Then he allowed his son-in-law and others to run amock under his ageis. The court named him in the report and the first thing the BCCI lawyers do is to inform them that the AGM will be postponed by a month. What is the job of the BCCI? To protect this tainted man or work for betterment of cricket in India?

It is unbelievable that a multi-billion dollar organisation has been allowed to run as fiefdom of politicans and rich businessman for so long in India. The only sports body in the world that is run as someone's "baap ki jaagir" (father's estate). High time that the government and supreme court do something to stop the hegemony of certain individuals from Indian cricket. A professional sports body, that uses the countries name, should be fully accountable. Or they should start sending the team as a BCCI XI then 'Team India'. The game should be run with a full time CEO and management team who are answerable to a higher body. It's is time to clean Indian cricket and release it from the clutches of the Pawar's, Jaitley's, Shukla's and the Srinivasan's. The zonal quota system doesn't make any sense either.

Remains to be seen if it will be done though. Sharad Pawar is already pulling his weight around to become the next president. As they say, 'Asman se gire, Khajur mein aatke'.

Dhoni should also not captain India anymore. Being the owner of Rhiti sports, he represents players that are currently in the India team. Again a case of conflict of interest. In addition, he lied in front of the committe on the role of Meiyapan and therefore committed perjury. I won't be surprised if he is one of 9 (or 6, since the court named 3 players accidentally) current cricketers named in the Mudgal report.

 

[Insanity]

@MJJ most records in cricker or for that matter in any sport are made under helpful circumstances. How many times do we see scores of 8-0 or 9-0 between two top clubs? How many hatricks or four/five goals are scored by a player against top defenses?

Younis Khan recently scored, if I am not wrong, four consecutive centuries in two tests on spinner friendly tracks in the UAE against a team that aren't strong in the spin department and whose fast bowlers were rendered useless in those conditons. Does that take anything away from Younis' achievement? Indian beat that Australian team 4-0 in tests the last time they visited.

Your comparison of Rohit's averages is completely irrelevant to what is he being lauded for. However, If I am guessing correctly, you are a Pakistani, so it is but natural for you to be jealous of an Indian's achievement.

 

[MJJ]

@Insanity did you see me celebrating younis khan Or misbah achievement here ? but then again you are an Indian. its natural for you to worship players like gods.

 

[kiristao]

Hayden made 380 versus Zimbabwe. No one cares about that. There are around 2 triple centuries scored on average per season in the Ranji trophy for last 10 years. Given time and a shit enough bowling attack, for professional batsmen it is not much of an accomplishment. See Ravindra Jadeja. 3 triples and averages 21 in test cricket.

Jayawardene's averages 60 at home, 40 away. If you break down the away record excluding the sub-continent, he averages 35 in England, South Africa and 30 in Australia.

Most >300 scores are a waste of time and do not tell you anything about the batsman. Knuckling down on day 4-5 and saving a test after playing 300 balls to play for a draw is a far greater skill. Du Plessis in Adelaide and then in the India test last year, De Villiers in Adelaide, Amla's last knock in Sri Lanka are far greater accomplishments than smacking around some ordinary bowling attack on a pitch that doesn't bounce above knee level.

You sound like you have very little knowledge about cricket.

The issue here is that you think I believe those scores mean they r great batsmen. I never said that. I just said it's incredibly difficult to do it and if u have played cricket yourself you would know how hard it is.
Secondly, I have never said that these scores are the greatest batting performances ever. A hundred on day 5 in trying conditions is an incredible innings as well but just because these highest scores were don't in easier conditions cannot be the reason to undermine them.
As far as performances in the Ranji go, someone like Yousuf Pathan made a 5th day century to help his team win the Ranji trophy a few years ago. The lesser we talk about Ranji performance the better

 

[Moonred]

@Insanity did you see me celebrating younis khan Or misbah achievement here ? but then again you are an Indian. its natural for you to worship players like gods.

Tbf hardly anyone has been lauding sharma as God. Most people know and criticize his shortcomings,his poor application, bad overseas record. It is almost expected that he will fail to deliver again. What is strange is to focus all the energy at poor pitch/bad bowling than crediting him for that innings.

 

[MJJ]

Tbf hardly anyone has been lauding sharma as God. Most people know and criticize his shortcomings,his poor application, bad overseas record. It is almost expected that he will fail to deliver again. What is strange is to focus all the energy at poor pitch/bad bowling than crediting him for that innings.

similarly people discrediting him aren't doing it because they are jealous of an Indian breaking another Indians record. that reminded me of dhoni saying whoever is complaining about the ipl, is jealous.

one bad assumption deserves another.

 

[Moonred]

similarly people discrediting him aren't doing it because they are jealous of an Indian breaking another Indians record. that reminded me of dhoni saying whoever is complaining about the ipl, is jealous.

one bad assumption deserves another.

Ofcourse not, as there are plenty of Indians who are part of the discrediting gang.

 

[Insanity]

@Insanity did you see me celebrating younis khan Or misbah achievement here ? but then again you are an Indian. its natural for you to worship players like gods.

I only actually "see you" pick parts of a post and then snipe at it. That is your specialty.

No wonder you discredit every achievement, and completely ignore any valid points made in a post. These seem to be issues way beyond the purview of this forum.

There is one way we can stop this run fest in India; may be next time we'll shoot at a players caravan, that way India will be forced to play it's cricket in empty stadiums in foreign countries.


**One childish post deserves other**

 

[KM]

I only actually "see you" pick parts of a post and then snipe at it. That is your specialty.

No wonder you discredit every achievement, and completely ignore any valid points made in a post. These seem to be issues way beyond the purview of this forum.

There is one way we can stop this run fest in India; may be next time we'll shoot at a players caravan, that way India will be forced to play it's cricket in empty stadiums in foreign countries.


**One childish post deserves other**

 

[MJJ]

I only actually "see you" pick parts of a post and then snipe at it. That is your specialty.

No wonder you discredit every achievement, and completely ignore any valid points made in a post. These seem to be issues way beyond the purview of this forum.

There is one way we can stop this run fest in India; may be next time we'll shoot at a players caravan, that way India will be forced to play it's cricket in empty stadiums in foreign countries.


**One childish post deserves other**

someone is very bitter.

am not even gonna respond to the stupidity in the rest of your post.

 

[Boycott]

Cricket should be a proper contest between bat and ball. I often look at scorecards from games in the sub-continent and it's tedious seeing the batting team at 262-2 chasing 350-4. In the same way test matches being constantly draws after batting stalemates of 700 vs 600. You're getting bowlers getting centuries, batsmen having the time of their lives boosting their averages and then when they go abroad they're all at sea technically and mentally.

The sight of seeing fast bowlers neglected in order for spin, more spin, dobblers here and there from part timers, back to spin etc causes no sympathy when they go away and get clobbered around the park, and when they're into bat the oppo pacers make a mockery. Oh and the spinner will take a few too.

Also there is too much cricket. How many India - Sri Lanka games have there been in the last 5 years? What's with the gimmicks and the pointless info that clusters the screen?

It's not just cricket.