I was laughing about the relegation bit. Imagine the wailing on this site? Yes the saudis are a bad regime and has done atrocities but no worse than what any country's govt does or has done in the past.
Could Utd be sold soon?
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Glazers are shit, they have no idea about football they are just investors and businessmen whom were saved by SAF decision for many years. Anyone would be better surely!
Rather them than Glazers, who fund Israel.
Don't think anyone would be happy. However comments like "I'd rather see us relegated than owned by the likes of them" or "I will support another club if this comes to fruition." is just ridiculous. How can you even support another club? It's not like a fecking Football Manager where you change teams every week (or based on these comments maybe some of you do...)
Uk, US and other big nations love off (in a poltical sense) Saudi. If you guys have such moral issues, you should also leave England, US or any other country that you live in that sides with Saudi.
People like to take the moral high ground when it's easy for them, like saying they'd stop following the club!
People like to take the moral high ground when it's easy for them, like saying they'd stop following the club!
Just to be associated with a global brand such as Manchester United would be worth the initial buyout cost alone.
The idea of making money off the club is non-factor. We would be used as a branding vehicle for an international regime first and foremost.
Relegation isn't the end of the world - you can still support your club, still feel attachment, even pride.
Being owned by the likes of the Saudis? I'd feel ashamed, I'd feel no attachment to the club - no pride, no affection, just regret and disgust.
So yes, I'd rather see Utd relegated than sold to the likes of the Saudis - and it's not even close.
It was about his ownership of other franchises outside of his home market. But it's important to remember that NFL teams are franchises of the NFL, they are not independent, that's why the other 31 owners have a say on who is the 32nd. Football clubs aren't franchises, they are independent from each others and from a property law standpoint the FA has no say on who owns the clubs. Though the FA can under certain circumstances suspend the club of league membership which could deter the potential owners.
So as long as they promised to buy us a new right winger, ISIS or a Mexican drug cartel owning United would be perfectly okay in your book?
If the Saudis buy, I'm done supporting football clubs.
Why, what a well thought through and practical solution!
Either that or continue to speak freely about our view that our governments should not be trading arms with the Saudis or supporting their despotic regime - as is our right to do so in this country. The same cannot be said for the people in SA who disagree with their leaders.
For 4bn the Glazers will sell to anyone, and if it is the Arabs, there is nothing we can do about it. So everything said here is meaningless.
That last sentence applies to everything said on this forum, it kind of defies the purpose of the whole thing.
Seems like plenty of people would be happy, and saying you'd sooner see United relegated really isn't in any way an odd stance.
I'd be done with football if it ever happened.
Well if you're so up in arms about their freedom of speach, how about you do something about it? Your government support SA, you and your government do something about it!
People often want to be associated with a popular brand when the goal is profit so if that's the rationale the end goal would still likely be to profit from the club.
I just think that the 3bn valuation is so high that any buyer that drops that will tighten their purse strings after. Billionaires range from money-savvy to money-stingy and what they have in common is none of them will drop 3bn with the expectation of making a loss
Says the poster who quoted the fecking daily Star. This is also the same paper that reported today that there is a 138 mile long alien spacecraft on the moon, and that NASA are lying to us about it. If Paul the Octopus predicted something you wanted to hear, you'd report it as news.
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Football is our business.
Many people, including myself, do not like United being a cash cow, a property of a billionaire. But this is what it is, football has changed, it is all about money now. But whatever happens i will not stop supporting the club because i love football and i love United.
Excuse me, please prove that it's wrong? See, you can't!
Could not agree more.
You were telling us to emigrate a minute ago, make your mind up! What are you now suggesting people should do about it? All I and others on here were saying is that we have the right to criticise Saudi Arabia's ruling family and their awful human rights record.
Yep, exactly this. But anything is a cash cow. Martin Edward didn't lose money owning the club. He was making profits. When it was a plc, shareholders were getting paid. Glazers owning the club, they're getting paid.
I stand corrected!
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You and others were saying you'd disown United if SA took over. So why stay in and support a country that supports SA?
My main point here is, people talking rubbish about taking the moral high ground. If you're going to take the moral high ground, do it properly, not half arse comments on a football forum.
Agree. #heart
I love the fact you think people can pop round to the Government’s house and have a word with them.
What people can do is make the informed choice not to be associated with something they rightfully find abhorrent.
Everyone is entitled to disagree with this approach but people mocking it are making fools of themselves.
What's more foolish is doing a half a job of standing on their high horses. Do it properly or just don't do it at all.
Also, you know you don't have to walk in a governments house to be heard? If that's all that has stopped you from doing half a moral high ground job, dm me, I can guide you in different ways you can make yourself heard to your government.
I mean everyone's ideal owner would be a billionaire who made money the 'right way' and has the club's best interests in his heart. I don't know if such a person even exists in this world.
This takes me back to 2010-2011 when there were heavy rumours about the qataris taking over the club. The glazers probably didn't budge, so they went and bought psg instead.
This takes me back to 2010-2011 when there were heavy rumours about the qataris taking over the club. The glazers probably didn't budge, so they went and bought psg instead.
Man utd will be the last club blazers could sell. Not happening.
Yes couldnt agree more. Anyone who makes comments like supporting another club or hope we get relegated makes me wonder whether they are proper supporters or fans anyway
They're juat "fan boys" and not supporters.
Im on about you saying ban me because I started a thread on a forum which I thought was what this forum is for to discuss things related to Utd. At the end of the day its a bit of fun, stop taking it so seriously.
And some reds apparently,
Arrogant little chap aren't you? Do you know these posters personally? Do you know if they aren't actively involved in protest groups, contacting their mps, or possibly even MPs themselves who actively disagree with relationships with the Saudis? No, you know nothing about them, so wind your neck in.
Or perhaps people who don't want to be associated with human rights atrocities?
Have you read their comments?clearly they're not doing as your aforementioned comments.
And who are you exactly telling me what to do? Don't act Billy big bollocks on forums. Speak respectfully or take some proper action, instead of some half arse shit like the posters you're defending!
How about the human right atrocities that have been performed by the likes of the clubs sponsors? They don't seem to be so concerned when SA companies are sponsoring the club.
Again, confirms my point of half arse actions!
Good post, I was about to say similar.
Indeed, also do people really think our many sponsors don’t have dodgey ties