You been drinking diesel this evening or something? If not, you're in danger of coming across as a bit of a berk.
Could Utd be sold soon?
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Hope it happens so I can witness the mental gymastics by some people to defend our Saudi overlords.
I know they are thrilled, they simply don't care because before it, they were nothing. United right now are the complete opposite of nothing, were not some project for some questionable state to flaunt as a sort of advert to show how none questionable they are.
It's not a case of United being different, simply a case of United already having enormous success, following, brand, everything City, and to a similar extent, PSG didn't have. Hence why they were ripe for these sorts of investors.
That could be true, but doesnt every owner of a business take money out of it otherwise why have the business in the first place if you are not gaining from it? I dont like the Glazers but them or anyone else who bought the club wouldnt just plough any profits back in to the business 100%
Always an undertone of xenophobia. Its less about United and more about racism. Feck them. Hope it happens.I get the impression the people who voted for Brexit are now posting in this thread #racistCnuts
Well, for one, the current "regime" are purely businessmen and women. I'm sure plenty of United fans have a whole host of issues with them, most of which, are purely based on the way they operate the club as a business. The debt, the taking out of money, the takeover itself, few of us are fans.
What they haven't done, is bomb people into oblivion, beheaded a few dozen people recently, disappeared a journalist or a whole host of actions that should lead anyone to be at least concerned over such people taking over United.
If this happens at least if our new owners ever feck off we will still be an absolutely huge club. City and PSG just don’t have the fan base. I’d rather the club was better run, especially the footballing side. City’s owners have done a far better job than the glazers when you consider how much they had to catch up initially, how far ahead they are now and the excellent work they’ve done in the community and with youth football (which will probably see a few top players break through from them in the PL soon, maybe at different clubs but having come through their academy)
Morally I’m against it, these guys are the absolute worst of the worst. I’ve been drifting away from football more and more anyway. The money is obscene and the celebrity is often unjustified. It’s just another nail in the coffin for me to be honest. I would like to be entertained again though however that happens.
Morally I’m against it, these guys are the absolute worst of the worst. I’ve been drifting away from football more and more anyway. The money is obscene and the celebrity is often unjustified. It’s just another nail in the coffin for me to be honest. I would like to be entertained again though however that happens.
Swing and a miss...
Are you guys for real?!? Racism?!
Perhaps the problem people have on here is being purchased by Saudi Arabians, a nation with atrocious human rights records and the ongoing debacle with the current suspected murder of Jamal Khashoggi. Even US lobbying companies are currently cutting ties with Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia are one of the most sexist, racist, homophobic nation on the planet. I’d want nothing to do with it.
United doesn’t need to affiliate itself with evil; the club is one or two key appointments away from being a superpower again. It doesn’t need to sell it’s soul to default human rights violators to be relevant like City did. (Something which made it impossible to continue to support the club with any real enthusiasm anymore)
Trust me, seeing your club become a propaganda vehicle for a Sharia state of misogyny, homophobia, slavery and dictatorship invalidates any ‘success’ that occurs as a result.
Trust me, seeing your club become a propaganda vehicle for a Sharia state of misogyny, homophobia, slavery and dictatorship invalidates any ‘success’ that occurs as a result.
Actually, you have City and PSG the wrong way round. PSG are a ‘new club’ formed in the 1970s. City on the other hand, whilst being in the wilderness for thirty odd years, were a force previously. Growing up in Manchester in the early 70’s was a pain in the arse I can tell you. Our problem now is that our historical ability to blow everyone else out of the water financially has gone. We still compete at the top table for the best players, but there are now others, namely Chelsea and City who can match us. On a pan European basis, there are others (although outside the U.K., that was always the case). However unpalatable a Saudi buy out might be for you, it is the only way we may re acquire our historical hegemony.
Yes, absolutely. Being concerned about the actions of some people who cut people's heads off... publicly as if its the fecking medieval age is definitely about racism...
I detest the Glazers, they are bloodsucking Trumps supporting weasels but jesus there couldnt be a worse bidder than this. Even Murdoch would be more desirable and only Putin would be worse.
PSG are the result of two clubs merging so have "history" beyond the 70s. United were a bigger, more successful club than City at any point in history post ww2, probably earlier. The 70s may have been a low point for United, but they were hardly the glory days for City either, I would consider the 60s better for both clubs.
The fact remains though, City in 2008/9 were nothing. The decade prior saw them play in Division 2. The worst United have seen in this past decade in 7th place.
Saw this on r/reddevils. A reputed journalist with the Washington Post who covers the Middle-East, she tweeted that Bin Salman is looking to buy the club.However, it is based on a Sun article. People from the UK, do journalists there post any tweet at all based on what's in the Sun? By journalists, I mean like Barney Ronay, Daniel Taylor, Henry Winter etc. This story seems to be gaining some traction.
Looks like we are in for a ride both on and off the pitch, my fellow red devils.
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I'd rather Trump bought us and plastered his name on the shirt as a sponsor then sanctioned a tan orange away kit.
And that would be very unpleasant.
I generally agree with what you say, but PSG as an entity did not exist and City go back a long way. As you say however, from the 1950s onwards, we were always bigger - I was around in the late 60s as well and for quite a long period into the late 70’s, they were better than us. However, eventually, our greater spending power and their piss poor management set the tone for the next 30 years. What City, amongst others prove is that it’s clubs with the money that win things and dominate.
The Glazers are money driven, so predictable. This would be a whole new level of sinister undertones associated with the club and they would be under no financial pressure to let it go in future
When were United ever able to blow everyone out of the water on a Domestic and/or European level in the transfer market?
United haven't been the biggest spenders in English football in any of the last 5 decades. In the 90's we were able to go big domestically on transfer fees for select players mostly due to an excellent academy producing a string of world class players. But with the wage structure in place at the club back then, (no player earned more than £25k per week) We could never compete with the European giants and even some of the other English clubs for top players. We lost out on the likes of Desailly to Chelsea and Ravanelli to fecking Middlesbrough because we couldn't compete with the wages they were offering those players.
The irony here of course is we probably have more financial power now than we've ever had in the past. United's success was never built upon spending big or at least outspending everyone else. It was built on excellent management, producing top youth players and making shrewd purchases mostly of other young promising players and developing them. Basically the exact opposite of what we've been doing since 2013.
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This might be cynical but I do half wonder if this may be a leak to try and calm the storm that is brewing again over the Glazers. A sort of "be careful what you wish for" type message.
We've gone from having problem with eye poking to being Ok with eye gouging.and Sir Bobby wasn't happy with Jose...
I'm curious what you think of jamal khashoggi disappearance and western media's response to it?
I think the Saudi royal family is desperate to launder their reputation after that journalist's assassination. Buying a football club worked for the UAE, so why shouldn't it work for them, is probably their thinking.
It will do wonders for their reputation and that's why I'm worried that it might happen. Also, British tabloid journalists( likes of Martin Samuel) are so easy to have in your pocket that once We( Uggh! can't say that if saudi own us) start winning, they will write articles after articles praising the great visionary MBS.
I’m ready to kneel to our new overlords
If it happens I expect us to turn into a real life version of Football Manager.
Like Chelsea and Manchester City.
This is not the place to discuss the current events involving Khashoggi. If you want that, go to the thread in the CE Forum.
The success belongs exclusively to the Arabs - nobody with reasonable cognitive capacity regards it as a victory for Manchester; most City fans are just hypocritical sheep who soon gave up on the pride they took in being a ‘proper club’ once tyrannical charity came their way.
Clubs like Liverpool and Spurs show that you can be competitive with clever recruitment, faith in youth and recycling the funds you generate properly - their fans can take more pride in their relative success than blues can in whatever they win via £1b+ in handouts from an Amnesty-condemned Sharia state.
Ferguson’s dynasty was primarily built upon identity and principles; to abandon them in return for something as vulgar as joining the camel race with the other Arabian propaganda projects is shameful, and any fans who endorse such immorality might as well go and fill some empty seats at the Etihad.
Saudi Arabia? Feck off!
The purchasing of football clubs by states should be banned.
The purchasing of football clubs by states should be banned.
It was inevitable since we became a PLC that we would some day end up with an entity that had unlimited funds buying the club.
Nothing lasts forever. I just did not expect my club to be gone in my own lifetime.
I am of course looking ahead here.
Should this happen the club would officially be dead for me.
Nothing lasts forever. I just did not expect my club to be gone in my own lifetime.
I am of course looking ahead here.
Should this happen the club would officially be dead for me.
Lets say that MBS buys up United and spends $4Billion in doing so.
Under the FFP doesnt he have to have a business case to ensure that its a legit business ie ROI? If so, wouldnt that start to throttle our spendings/operational budget without actually increasing revenues tremendously?
The City's method of bloating up their sponsorship deals can only go so far with that sort of investment levels. Saudia Airlines sponsorship of 200million per year?
Under the FFP doesnt he have to have a business case to ensure that its a legit business ie ROI? If so, wouldnt that start to throttle our spendings/operational budget without actually increasing revenues tremendously?
The City's method of bloating up their sponsorship deals can only go so far with that sort of investment levels. Saudia Airlines sponsorship of 200million per year?
I see a possible kinship developing between new owners and manager in attitudes to media. Bad taste I know, but it will be all over in terms of taste anyway if Saudis take over Utd.
I get the impression the people who voted for Brexit are now posting in this thread #racistCnuts
Condemning child marriage, slavery, public stoning and beheading, murdering homosexuals, treating women as inferior property and dictatorship isn’t racist.
To dismiss everybody who voted to detach from an exclusively white European Union dictatorship that presides over a predominantly white continent, to open the door to new trading and mutual migration with a diverse range of nations and races around the world, as racist, is incredibly stupid.
Yeah but it's easy and he's never really put his mind to it.
Exactly. Whatever one's views on Brexit, that sort of whataboutery is amazing.
Reopening the thread now.
No more personal attacks and accusing other people of racism just because they don't agree with your views.
No more personal attacks and accusing other people of racism just because they don't agree with your views.