So how does it differ from the media spin then?
Could Utd be sold soon?
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So how does it differ from the media spin then?
Why are you drawing Kostur into this
Hey, I can fecking see that.
Companies don’t announce “we’re for sale”. This just means there is nothing serious being discussed with this particular “buyer.” The Glazers would clearly sell up for the right price.
Oh come on man, which of these billionaires are politically neutral? They all fund one side or the other, most often than not. Don’t we have Rothschild employees on the board, and they aided the Glazers takeover. It doesn’t have to mean anything but it’s never as clean as it looks. It’s not the same as the Saudis owning the club, but I mentioned US and UK politics in general of course it’s a drastic difference.
If the Prince is serious about buying Utd then its just a matter of time, not a chance the Glazers are turning down anything north of £4bn,in the meantime the not for sale line is a predictable opening gambit in order to protect the share price,everything has a price but everything is buyable when the buyer in question is worth £850bn!
If you really give that much care. The truth is, most won’t leave their comfort zone, and don’t care how their government provides it.
The Saudis have already invested in F1 and also made a ridiculous deal with WWE. I don't see this rumor as being far fetched to be honest.
Starting to get suspiciously conspiracy like in here...
Yeah it’s better, but as I said it’s hipocricy. I’ve felt as a hypocrite myself, and can’t really pretend as different.
It’s really not that hard to find out about anything today, people just rarely care enough.
If an alt-right member of the Caf was to say he was really proud of what Trump was aspiring to - he would be rightfully called out on it as an idiot. I don't think Bin Salman has succeeded in changing this bad stereo type, in fact I can only see the perception of Saudi Arabia getting worse under his reign. His faux liberalism in allowing 'women to drive' isn't fooling anyone.
As a muslim, I've pretty much always destested your nation's rulers and all the signs are pointing towards that feeling intensifying. They're corrupt and bring shame to Islam.
Not sure what you are getting at tbh. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt about the Rothschild reference but there is a world of difference between holding political views or even making donations to a party and running the country.
Don’t be, i clearly overstated the case. Although if you dig deep enough you never know what might pop out about abou our owners.
I agree, you are right. I overstated the case, it’s not even close enough.
Of course doesn’t everyone go and first ask where the crude oil that was used to produce the fuel you are about purchase was sourced from, before deciding whether or not to buy?
Because obviously if you don’t it means you are not allowed to have an opinion on any country that sells oil.
If this bid goes through, I'm going to do the smart thing. Listen to what Gary Neville says and copy his sentiments. Its the only way.
We’ll be quiet then, they don’t want to know about their ways of democracy. Yeah they are misinformed, but usually because they don’t really care. I mean how hard is it?
The embassy, it’s a fecking fortress overlooking the whole city. What can you do eh?
Pozdrav brate.
Apparently the directors have been spending a lot more time at the club over the last three weeks, however there could be a whole host of reasons for that, I'm guessing they're busy thrashing out the finer details of a lucrative new mushy peas sponsorship.
This is from the Sky article.
What it's essentially saying is that we are for sale, they just want a lot more money for us. Surely if they're looking to sell we can find a better owner?
This is the guy in the John Oliver show this week isn't it?
If so off course he is going to buy us so the media will run loads of stories about evil he is and abuse of human rights while they ignore City's owners .
If he is serious though with that money he isn't going to be put off with one or two refusals from the Glaziers and will just keep going to get what he wants .
If so off course he is going to buy us so the media will run loads of stories about evil he is and abuse of human rights while they ignore City's owners .
If he is serious though with that money he isn't going to be put off with one or two refusals from the Glaziers and will just keep going to get what he wants .
Correct, he isn't and judging from Sky the Glazers at least seem to be open to offers, if the football world hates us now just imagine what they'll think if we had Saudi owners.
It's not about a comfort zone is it? There are good reasons people are not able to just up sticks and move to another country.
For example, in my case, I don't have the wealth to do so. I own nothing. I don't work in a particularly sought-after field. I have no special qualifications.
Which of these magical, completely-innocent-throughout-their-entire-history, totally-liberal-paradise countries are going to want me? Oh, and offer the rest of my family a home and jobs too?
You're talking simplistically naive nonsense, mate.
Thinking about it, this is probably the perfect time for the Glazers to sell up.
Not sure how I'd feel. Unfortunately it's the way things are going.
I can see how Paris can be attractive to build a club there. The future might be more capitals who before don't have the history and those who accept to be bought. If we don't accept then someone else will and how long can you compete for?
Also what United needs down the line is an imposing 80-90k stadium with much better views from the high up seats. Could be a good way to get investment into this part of the city and even build a stadium for the women's team.
I can see how Paris can be attractive to build a club there. The future might be more capitals who before don't have the history and those who accept to be bought. If we don't accept then someone else will and how long can you compete for?
Also what United needs down the line is an imposing 80-90k stadium with much better views from the high up seats. Could be a good way to get investment into this part of the city and even build a stadium for the women's team.
Especially when we buy Messi for a gazillion quid and put him on the bench just cause we can.
Aren’t we worth more than we ever have been at this moment in time, so yeah probably makes sense to sell and there’s not many out there who’d throw 4-5 billion at a football club.
Also, the current UK Tory government were voted into power on the strength of the votes from 13m people - just under 1/5 of the population. In your idealistic little world, in order for us not to be hypocrites in your eyes, the other 80% of us can simply move to Iceland, right?
Especially a football club that isn’t currently one of the best in the world (on the pitch anyway). A club that some argue is in decline and needs a lot of work / money.
Makes sense for the Glazers to sell up soon really.
I wasn’t fully aware to be honest, and after the stuff I’ve read I retract my original statement.
So Utd are apparently not for sale but notice nowhere are the words at any price! The Glazers are probably encouraging all of this with the recent trips to Saudi, there's never been a better time for them to sell the club and walk away richer than ever.
Whilst I hate sugar daddy football and wish they’d all feck-off out of it, it does worry me slightly if the Saudis really are looking to invest in a Premier League football - if they look elsewhere then the very last thing we need is them pumping billions into a Newcastle, West Ham or worst of all: Liverpool
Not saying I want them to buy us necessarily, I just don’t want them buying anyone else either
Glazers will sell at some point. They know the Saudis can pay alot.
A long thread based on nothing. And some seem to have the view that anyone's better than the Glazer's
Whilst I hate sugar daddy football and wish they’d all feck-off out of it, it does worry me slightly if the Saudi’s really are looking to invest in a Premier League football - if they look elsewhere then the very last thing we need is them pumping billions into a Newcastle, West Ham or worst of all: Liverpool
Not saying I want them to buy us necessarily, I just don’t want them buying anyone else either
Reasons to be cheerful if they buy another club -
1. On a per capita basis, they are not that rich. Unlike Qatar or Abu Dhabi with their tiny populations, they have competing demands on their oil revenues and would find it politically awkward to pump billions over a sustained period into an overseas football club.
2. I very much doubt MBS has the patience to see through a long-term strategy of the kind we’ve seen at City the last 5 years (when they started preparing for Guardiola). He’d probably go through 5 managers per season.
feck no! imagine them buying Liverpool (it isn’t hard to do) so yeah sod the human rights issues, beheadings, killing journalists and bombing the shit out of Yemen, let’s get these feckers on board before they throw their petro dollars at anyone else.Whilst I hate sugar daddy football and wish they’d all feck-off out of it, it does worry me slightly if the Saudis really are looking to invest in a Premier League football - if they look elsewhere then the very last thing we need is them pumping billions into a Newcastle, West Ham or worst of all: Liverpool
Not saying I want them to buy us necessarily, I just don’t want them buying anyone else either
Ah the selective ignorance from fans right here. Maybe an undertone of Xenophobia. The Saudis are bad boohoo. Who sold them weapons? What country do the glazers come from? Wait is it the country that uses white phosporus on civilians and breaks international law. Wait it might just be me. Who knows.
I would not mind if we were being sold to a private business family from anywhere. But the club being owned by a regime, especially one that is one of the most oppressive regimes in the world with massive human rights violations just cannot be even a consideration. I for one would find it hard to support United if this happened.
This club is destined to be in the hands of very rich twats in the near future. All the top clubs in the world will be owned by multi-billionaires eventually. We've already got a few. Look at the situation with the next World Cup. The game is already overtaken by greed, its only going to get worse.
If the Glazer's are to sell this seems like the ideal buyer they would be looking for. If the intrest is real, the offer would be overvalue and may be too good for the Glazer's to pass up.
No one is saying that Saudis are bad people. People of Saudi are just regular people. Most fans here have a problem being owned by their ruling family though. Like I would have equally grave concerns if we were going to be owned by US government.
so sky saying Bin Selman's offer of 3 bn will be rejected and the Glazers wont discuss any price below 4 bn. Then it is a matter of time I guess.