If you honestly believe the reality of the situation is "not that bad", you need to get your head checked. The only reason we've managed to prevent a much more significant death toll is because of the lockdown measures. Depending on where you are, it might well be too early to lift the restrictions.
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The lockdowns caused more harm than good. Further reading:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...rove_unnecessary_global_lockdowns_143253.html
It shut the whole world down for months, affected millions and even the properly recorded deaths are in the multiple hundred of thousands, let alone the actual count.
Sounds pretty bad by most standards.
Of course they weren't.
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...s-government-backs-return-as-soon-as-possible
And just in case you don't believe anything written in the Guardian, this source might be more to your liking.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/s...ue-urged-government-step-planning-return.html
By the way the Tories are Thundercunts mate
Let's be honest the rest of 'the season' is a farce. Home and away advantage has gone, form out of the window and clubs battling to keep hold of players they had on loan or who are now out of contract. None of the teams will be at match fitness and it's just an exercise to tick a box that the season was finished.
Surely you don't disagree?
Don't get sucked in mate.
Amazing isn't it. Not that bad! I for one do not look forward to something bad happening then.
So, if it's 1992, the Beeb NEVER managed to show us lifting the thirteen (13) PL Trophies?!
Well mine aren't opening on June 1st, and as far as i know neither are any other practices in Northern Ireland opening on June 1st.
Do you have a link saying that any dentists are re-opening on June 1st?
BBC says they can open in England on June 8th. So where do you live that they are opening a week earlier?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52838072
The virus itself wasn't bad. It was the subsequent panic and overreaction that was the problem.
I can't see how there will be European football as things stand unless they cancel the Euros again or abandon the group stages.
Or maybe just not bother with the qualifying rounds and let teams in via rankings.
I'm sorry but I don't need to read any links you post to tell you with absolute certainty that the lockdowns did not cause more harm than good. Were it not for these restrictions, the number of people succumbing could easily have been 10 times higher, and I say this from the perspective of a front line healthcare worker who spent the last 2 months treating patients in one of the worst affected regions worldwide.
I'm trying my best, but I've had a couple of days off the booze and with this heat let's just say I've been a bit stressed today.
Basingstoke.
I've got an appointment on 4 june and my son on 9 June. No problem booking at all.
They've been open during the 'lockdown' for emergency work as well, so the receptionist said.
It was in Italy. Did you not see the news reports?
No health system in the world could have coped without lockdown.
If you're not willing to even read the abundant evidence showing how destructive and pointless the lockdown was, then there's no point discussing it with you.
Yeah but they've all got extra games
Just saw the breakdown a The Athletic journalist
That's just blatantly false. Be prepared for people to call you out if you're going to spread misinformation.
"Italy’s alarming number of deaths fanned many of the early fears across the world, but by March 17 it was clear that the median age of Italian deaths was over 80 and that not a single person under 30 had died in that country. Furthermore, it was known that 99% of those who died had other existing illnesses"
I'm not the one spreading misinformation.
I get all the relevant information and evidence from epidemiologists and actual doctors who know what they're talking about. And I can assure you every single one of them would concur that the lockdown was an absolute must. How you're even trying to debate that is beyond comprehension.
Probably one of those guys on the news having lockdown protests or still arguing flu is as bad.
Just have to leave it mate. Can't argue with some people.
AHH, cheers. Nice of sky to show the ones they got for free, you would of thought BT would follow them.
Surely not 9 friendly matches per team? When are they going to play those? Bundesliga teams had zero friendlies before restarting the league.
Sure, and ignore the countless doctors and epidemiologists arguing the exact opposite. But they're opinion isn't valid, right? Since it goes against the doom and gloom narrative.
You're posting information from articles that were published before the pandemic peaked in Italy, so obviously those numbers do not represent the whole truth. How about you post the most recent numbers?
So the FA Cup then...
I usually wouldn't engage over such topics as it is detrimental for my mental health and IQ, but I just can't help myself today.
Taken from the BBC website - The last time a live, top-flight league football match was broadcast on the BBC was during the 1987-88 season.
Google the source he provided Real Clear Politics and you'll see where he's getting that idea.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...hKY1-YhgiTbLsHiTLsCjLBtYw7Yk2ZSU8WMYQCMT5-rPL
Show me data from any of the badly affected regions in the world where doctors/epidemiologists have said that the lockdown has not helped mitigate the overall number of cases and prevented the number of deaths from being much higher. Go on, I dare you. I'm actually doing research on the epidemiology of the virus these days, just so you know, might take any "evidence" you find to show my colleagues so they can have a good laugh during this distressing period.
I’ve found some of the comments a bit sad tbh.
Ah, there we go, mystery solved.
Surely the virus got out of hand in Italy in Lombardia because of the Atalanta CL game and in the UK and Spain because of the Livepool* vs Atletico Madrid match?
Funny how football is to blame for much of the contagion.
Should we treat people over 80s and people under 30s differently? Just because under 30s are underrepresented doesn't mean we should stop caring about Lifes for those who are very old.
Why is existing illnesses important? We are talking about people. With or without. People are people. Why are some using this as a excuse to open up everything?
I wouldn't call it a farce, I'd say it's what we have as the only available option when everything is taken into consideration. It's not like positions aren't going to count. Norwich and whoever else in the bottom three at the end will get relegated. If there's European football next season, teams will qualify via the top six etc.
If the Bundi is anything to go by that isn't nesseserily true.
Apart from Hertha Berlin no clubs form since the restart has wavered that far from what we were seeing from them before the shutdown.