You've got the gall to come here and call United members of this forum names when you've been cornered for saying shameful words about Deeney !!
You should apologise for your shameful post.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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You've got the gall to come here and call United members of this forum names when you've been cornered for saying shameful words about Deeney !!
You should apologise for your shameful post.
I agree - his latest posts were despicable.
Its not me with the agenda! If you search for the interview on Youtube its titled 'Troy Deeney worries footballers will be blamed for wasting covid 19 tests!
My original view was that the season should be played out later this year, so long as it is safe to do so. It then became clear that this wouldn't be an option and that the two options are finish behind closed doors in June and July or finish without playing and either use the current table or some form of points per game. Of those two options my preference would actually be the latter. Sure Liverpool will get the *title, but all season opposition fans have been trying to invent a reason for the #tainted title because of VAR or its only because its a weak year etc
Why should Deeney not give an interview to the media?
Because there's no need to! If he doesn't want to play, fine he can stay at home with his family indefinitely. He's in a fortunate position where even as a dad of a new baby he can afford to take as much time off as he needs. Ask yourself this, Would he have been doing that interview if he was happy to restart? No chance. Interestingly they didn't have another player who was happy to restart to provide some balance to the interview either.
See above.
Why can't he voice his concerns and opinion publicly though? Should everyone just be quiet and get on with it so you can win your title?
It all seems a little bit self obsessed from where I'm sat. People have a right to speak up in any place of work if they feel they are being placed at risk unnecessarily. In fact the government are encouraging people to speak out if this is the case.
Why is it always the first course of dismissal to say something is an "agenda".
Not just you, but it's seen so often on here.
I'm by no means defending our handling of the crisis but that's not true. Spain, Italy and Belgium all ahead of us in terms of deaths per million.
It's not a big deal at all, plenty of players will no doubt not fancy it. but so many more will be desperate to get back, and we need to respect that view just as much.
Just let the players decide with no repercussions, way too much focus on the minority view as always.
In your opinion you mean?
He said the PL officials couldn't or wouldn't answer some of his questions and give him the reassurance he feels he needs to return to training/playing. I doubt he's the only player who has similar concerns so it's a good thing that he's speaking up about the situation as raising awareness and shining a light on the situation in the public eye might lead to more clarity from the PL.
Why should he stay silent?
Now there's 2 more Watford player's self isolating. I wonder if the Premier league has anything in place for clubs that have multiple players quarantined or if this was just hit and hope.
Enough of this shit now, please. You look ridiculous.
Points deduction for the club, and an extra 3 points to Liverpool
He also won’t be the only one and isnt even the only one who didn't return to training at his club.
Don’t see what the big deal is either myself
I don’t have one I’m afraid, I heard it verbally from an ITK
An ITK? I'm not calling into doubt what you say but it's like saying a football club is preparing to sign a player and they think he might cost more than the last one they signed. Of course the government is preparing and planning for a second wave, and of course it could be worse than the first. That much is obvious.
You're missing the point. If the Premier League officials couldn't or wouldn't answer some of his questions, why not take it up with them, or through the club rather than helping Piers Morgan pedal this narrative that Premier League football players are taking testing off key workers? I'm not asking him to stay silent, I just think it's wrong the way that he is going about it. Nobody is forcing him back to training or to carry on playing.
why? for having a different opinion to you?
Is this the biggest wall of text in the history of mankind? Possibly
Alternatively, don'y finish this season but put all planning into next season to ensure any disruption is minimised.
Better to have only one season disrupted than two.
Well said.
Really? Sounds like you have a shit employer.
My employers has already told everyone that even when we start going back to work in the second half of the year nobody will be forced to until they feel ready.
Kante potentially out for the season (should the Premier League return) would be a big blow for Chelsea and could be the difference between Champions League and Europa League.
"There was an interview about a guy who really likes Coca-Cola but the fact that They didn't interview another guy who likes Pepsi to balance things out is beyond me"Gib Liverpool title pls
Good post, I agree.
the Goverment, industry body and Deeney’s club have decided EPL should go back to work. And from what I read, playing football will be one of the safest workplaces in the country. Of course there is risk, as there is for every body returning to work. It is what it is.
So Deeney has an obligation to his employer and fulfilling his contract. I have a lot of sympathy for him; surely the compromise is that he stay in isolation from his child and family during the period he feels vulnerable? Plenty of NHS and key workers have done the same during this crisis. And with the regular testing, he can always visit his home for a day or so in between games.
Sure it’s not ideal with a new born, but we are not living in an ideal moment right now. Pretty much every person in Western Europe will have to make sacrifices, compromises and adjustments.
Personally I think football should be voided til a vaccine is found. It’s only entertainment and far from being an essential service. Ditto EPL standard football under covid19 biosecure conditions is a mockery for what the game at this level should be.
So Deeney has an obligation to his employer and fulfilling his contract. I have a lot of sympathy for him; surely the compromise is that he stay in isolation from his child and family during the period he feels vulnerable? Plenty of NHS and key workers have done the same during this crisis. And with the regular testing, he can always visit his home for a day or so in between games.
Sure it’s not ideal with a new born, but we are not living in an ideal moment right now. Pretty much every person in Western Europe will have to make sacrifices, compromises and adjustments.
Personally I think football should be voided til a vaccine is found. It’s only entertainment and far from being an essential service. Ditto EPL standard football under covid19 biosecure conditions is a mockery for what the game at this level should be.
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This season is already void in my eyes. Massive break, behind closed doors, players not training properly, players too scared to turn up for training.
They'll finish up the remaining fixtures because money rules but this season will always be seen as an abomination.
I don't know about the economic health of your company but I assure you where I live most small and medium businesses just break after being inactive for too much time.
In fact, a lot of them already did, lots of people are now unemployed and desperate, and no amount of the so called public money can solve this shitshow.
The world is not a save game file that you can leave for months and restart from where you stopped.
Some of the posts about footballers owing their employers are ridiculous, especially Deeney but I’ll make a wider point.
The social contract of working in a fair way for a fair wage went by the wayside years ago. We all know the drill now, we get paid and our employer tries to squeeze every last drop out of us for that wage. I don’t see why there should be any love for the organisation a person works for under the circumstances we increasingly find ourselves in work wise, it is a productivity rat race that damages our health and wider lives. To reiterate, I don’t see why anyone, paid millions or not, should feel a sentimental loyalty to going back unless strictly necessary in the work circumstances that have now been manufactured in this country.
The social contract of working in a fair way for a fair wage went by the wayside years ago. We all know the drill now, we get paid and our employer tries to squeeze every last drop out of us for that wage. I don’t see why there should be any love for the organisation a person works for under the circumstances we increasingly find ourselves in work wise, it is a productivity rat race that damages our health and wider lives. To reiterate, I don’t see why anyone, paid millions or not, should feel a sentimental loyalty to going back unless strictly necessary in the work circumstances that have now been manufactured in this country.
Any season in which that bunch of shite finish on top is an abomination to me. Luckily I had a nice 30 year gap between this one and the last and saw my own team win about 30 trophies.
Yeah, I agree with this. I feel I've already checked out from this season, seeing pics of the Utd players returning to training didn't get me excited at all. I guess I'll watch Utd games when they're on, because... it's Utd, but it'll feel like watching pre-season games for me.
If you think the scousers are pushing for bcd because they really care about economies and business.... yeah right.
They'd be the one pushing for safety once they got that 2 game.
Feck em. If there's a silver lining in voiding the league it's them not winning.
Had it with them, always tried to be objective and reasonable but they're not helping eh
They'd be the one pushing for safety once they got that 2 game.
Feck em. If there's a silver lining in voiding the league it's them not winning.
Had it with them, always tried to be objective and reasonable but they're not helping eh
Agree with you here dumbo and most of them are getting worse.
You’re seriously saying the man should care more about playing football than seeing his child? fecking hell.
Someone said it in a previous post, but this stance of "Deeney should just shut up" completely ignores the fact that as a senior player and club captain, him speaking up about it may encourage more junior players who share the same concerns but who may not otherwise speak up (because of the general pressure, because they don't want to make waves, whatever) to come forward and not join a re-start they're not totally comfortable with.
Liverpool supporters should also shut the feck up about this, the posts reek of ignorance.
Liverpool supporters should also shut the feck up about this, the posts reek of ignorance.
There are reports of allowing small crowds back into British stadia as early as October. It's speculation at this point and we will have to wait how infection numbers develop but in Germany some state PMs have also said they are planning to let crowds back in on Sep 1. This is of course of massive importance for particularly the lower league clubs who rely on gate money. Realistically we would probably have to cap it at 25% capacity to ensure social distancing.
I heard that all sports will be behind closed doors until November but I there's a chance they will just keep adding a month onto that depending on situation.
I still can't see any of us getting inside the ground until the start of next year but I reckon that will be at full capacity, basically need a solid year of fighting this thing to ensure it doesn't feck up 2021.
I used to think the same, but things have opened up so rapidly in Germany (often it feels like if it wasn't for compulsory face masks indoors the virus might as well not be a thing) that I wouldn't rule anything out. Well perhaps a full standing area.
I respect your opinion but I would like to ask you one thing. Would you still be for playing those 38 games no matter what if Liverpool won the title and there were 7-8 games left? Just so you know, I'm for stopping this season for lot of other reasons then just health (even if that is the most important of course). It is about contracts, sponsors, cups, european games and so on. This is now just a mess. And I am also for giving you title and than try to fix the rest in some way.
I wonder who the other clubs are that have had positive tests, my money is on Liverpool.
Of course Liverpool is one of them. Team full of corona players