Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[Random Task]

Not yet. But a precedent has been set. If there is a clear winner, crown a champion (French League) If there is no clear winner don't crown a champion (Dutch League)

Earlier, French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe told the country's national assembly, while addressing plans to ease the lockdown in France that had been put in place to fight the coronavirus pandemic, that "the 2019-20 season of professional sports, including football, will not be able to resume" before September.

No other country has such a system in place.

Your precedent was bourne and died in France, mate.

My condolences for your loss.

 

[christinaa]

what do you expect?! I expect t-shirts next. Utter twonks.

Liverpool mayor fears ‘farcical’ scenes if Premier League resumes

The mayor of Liverpool fears restarting the Premier League could lead to the “farcical” situation of fans congregating in large groups outside Anfield despite the coronavirus crisis.


When the Premier League was postponed on March 13, runaway leaders Liverpool were just two wins from clinching the title.


Premier League chiefs still hope to complete the season but their “Project Restart” plan has come under fire from current and former players, who think it is too soon to resume while the virus is still a major problem.


Matches would be played behind closed doors but Liverpool mayor Joe Anderson said he did not believe that would be enough to stop fans from gathering.


He highlighted the potential issue of fans ignoring social-distancing guidelines to celebrate Liverpool’s first English title in 30 years.


“Even if it was behind closed doors, there would be many thousands of people who would turn up outside Anfield,” Anderson told BBC Sport on Thursday.


“There’s not many people who would respect what we were saying and stay away from the ground. A lot of people would come to celebrate so I think it’s a non-starter.”


There have been reports that the remaining 92 Premier League fixtures could be staged at approved neutral venues that are well-positioned to limit the virus spread.


But Anderson is concerned that Anfield would act as a magnet for supporters when Liverpool matches were played, even if the team were elsewhere.


“Even then, I guess that a lot of people would turn up outside Anfield to celebrate and I understand the police’s concerns around that, so there’s a real difficulty here for us,” he said.


“I think it would be really difficult for the police to keep people apart and maintain social distancing if they were going to celebrate outside Anfield. It would be farcical.”


Anderson added: “I think the best thing to do is to actually end the season.


“It isn’t just about Liverpool—they’ve clearly won the league—they deserve it, they should be crowned league champions.


“The bottom line is, though, this is about health and safety and people’s lives.”

 

[christinaa]

Earlier, French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe told the country's national assembly, while addressing plans to ease the lockdown in France that had been put in place to fight the coronavirus pandemic, that "the 2019-20 season of professional sports, including football, will not be able to resume" before September.

No other country has such a system in place.

Your precedent was bourne and died in France, mate.

My condolences for your loss.

I hope that Niall will be around if they are 'given - handed - gifted' the title.

 

[TheReligion]

Not yet. But a precedent has been set. If there is a clear winner, crown a champion (French League) If there is no clear winner don't crown a champion (Dutch League)

Nah. That's written into French rules. That's not the reason why they've done that.

 

[Pexbo]

This is embarrassing, the club is just as bad as its fanbase.

They're having a pop at their own mayor who recently voiced his concerns about football resuming behind closed doors - the same concerns every sane person shares might I add.

Liverpool (at Home).


The club have zero grace and zero self awareness. Absolutely disgusting club.

 

[golden_blunder]

From a friend:

Premier league is back in June. A sport travel agency that manages logistics for some top teams (spurs, city, wolves, newcastle, rangers to name a few).
Has been tasked with arranging hotels and travel for 8 weeks starting mid may.

All premier league teams will play their remaining games at St. George’s Park, behind closed doors and for TV only. The complex will host 2/3 games a day that will be streamed live.

The players will go into isolation mid may at select hotels in the vicinity of st georges and will train at local clubs grounds.

They will not be able to see family and friends during the period of games. Each player will be tested regulary to ensure safety and hotels will be locked down for players only.

Looks like we are going to have a world cup style June with loads of games to watch.

Not sure how true. Sent via WhatsApp. True or not how would you guys feel if this was the solution?

Good luck trying to keep a bunch of young lads from messing around together in a hotel.

 

[Megadrive Man]

Nah. That's written into French rules. That's not the reason why they've done that.

Seems like the fairest thing to do though if the season can't be finished?

Looks like its between finish the season based on the current table vs finish behind closed doors now though, that's what nearly all leagues in Europe are looking at doing now.

 

[P-Nut]

I can't believe people still think the season won't resume.

Football is one of the most money hungry sports ever, and there is zero chance the Premier league is going to say we'll scrap it if there's the tiniest chance of it resuming.

 

[TheReligion]

This is embarrassing, the club is just as bad as its fanbase.

They're having a pop at their own mayor who recently voiced his concerns about football resuming behind closed doors - the same concerns every sane person shares might I add.

Liverpool (at Home).


The club have zero grace and zero self awareness. Absolutely disgusting club.

What is wrong with them? For a big club they are astonishingly bad at PR. That reads like "we are really busy with helping with the Coronavirus but just to let you know we still deserve the league title and our Mayor is wrong"

Seems like the fairest thing to do though if the season can't be finished?

Looks like its between finish the season based on the current table vs finish behind closed doors now though, that's what nearly all leagues in Europe are looking at doing now.

It's only fair if you mirror this throughout the leagues. You can't just give it Liverpool but not reward others.

 

[TheOx]

So Ive been away for a while. After all this time and after all those people who died, people are still bitter at the thought of Liverpool being given the title? Wow. Shocking stuff. Each league will have a different outcome, and whatever it is itll be for the best. I dont give a shit if we win or not. I just want football to be back.

 

[pratyush_utd]

PFA really need to step up once for the players.

 

[Dave Smith]

What about EL/CL places?

Table as it stands or ppg.

 

[TheReligion]

BBC News - Glenn Murray: Brighton striker unsure about top-flight return
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52493894

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

I can't believe people still think the season won't resume.

Football is one of the most money hungry sports ever, and there is zero chance the Premier league is going to say we'll scrap it if there's the tiniest chance of it resuming.

To be fair it surely makes sense to give it every chance, and try and come up with innovative ways for this to happen, everyone knows the repercussions will be massive if it all goes wrong, but likewise it'd be a feather in the cap for English football if they get it right, and without any undue strain on outside resources in doing so.

I don't think there is anything wrong with saying lets just see where we are by the end of May/early June, if things are still looking bleak then call it a day, and concentrate on next season, and if that's the case then it really has to be points per game (to include CL, EL, promotion, relegation, etc), or null and void, to just give it to Liverpool without everyone else been involved would be embarrassing even for them.

 

[arnie_ni]

Not yet. But a precedent has been set. If there is a clear winner, crown a champion (French League) If there is no clear winner don't crown a champion (Dutch League)

The French have a written rule they have to crown a winner in the event of a stoppage. No other country does

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

PFA really need to step up once for the players.

Like the majority of unions, it’s self interest before their members.

I’m sure the PFA only exists these days so that Taylor can continue to draw down his massive salary.

 

[Dave Smith]

It will finish on PPG or as it stands. Either way we will miss out having played a game less. Champions League football would be huge for our club and city, if we did get there. Would be cruel to miss out like this.

City will not be kicked out this year with everything that is going on and even then, questions need to be asked whether the competition will be played at all. All in all, 5th wouldn't do it for you, like it will not do it for MU either.

Further, and I mean absolutely no disrespect as SU have been amazing this year, but with your run in and the run ins of the teams around you, your chances of CL must be about 10/1 if played out.

Only teams that really win with the most likely scenario in my opinion - table as it stands/PPG, no relegation but Dippers given the title, is Norwich, Villa, Bournemouth and the Dippers.

 

[Dave Smith]

This is embarrassing, the club is just as bad as its fanbase.

They're having a pop at their own mayor who recently voiced his concerns about football resuming behind closed doors - the same concerns every sane person shares might I add.

I sometimes question if my visceral hatred of the Dippers is toxic/illogical as I am a pretty easy going person in real life. However, when things like this pop up, which the always invariably do with the Dippers, I am always reassured that I am not unhinged.

 

[wr8_utd]

I have no issue with final results being declared and following either of the French or Dutch versions. The most important thing is that football is not allowed to be played and lives are saved and resources are allocated where they're truly needed.

 

[Sigma]

What happens if by September the season won't be able to start? What's the point of stopping one season when you can't start another. If by that time football is only allowed to start by January of next year, what do you do in that case? I would say it's best to keep all options open at the moment.

 

[Sandikan]

Not yet. But a precedent has been set. If there is a clear winner, crown a champion (French League) If there is no clear winner don't crown a champion (Dutch League)

When have the arrogant English ever followed anyone else?
We brought in VAR but thought we knew better than to do it like others. And funnily enough made a massive hash of it

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

What happens if by September the season won't be able to start? What's the point of stopping one season when you can't start another. If by that time football is only allowed to start by January of next year, what do you do in that case? I would say it's best to keep all options open at the moment.

for a start we would be out of sync with the rest of Europe. That option, whilst ridiculous for many reasons is without doubt now off the table.

 

[cyberman]

City will not be kicked out this year with everything that is going on and even then, questions need to be asked whether the competition will be played at all. All in all, 5th wouldn't do it for you, like it will not do it for MU either.

Further, and I mean absolutely no disrespect as SU have been amazing this year, but with your run in and the run ins of the teams around you, your chances of CL must be about 10/1 if played out.

Only teams that really win with the most likely scenario in my opinion - table as it stands/PPG, no relegation but Dippers given the title, is Norwich, Villa, Bournemouth and the Dippers.

Why wont they be kicked out? If anything, a delayed start to CL works against them.

 

[Storm Force]

Why do people think we should void this season now on grounds/pretext we need to save lives

BUT are happy to

start a new season in August
and return to bars clubs garden centres social gathering etc in June or July.

What magical end to Covid happens in July or August

This pandemic is not going away

If you Void then

We follow France & belguim and announce final standings as the end result for champions and qualifyers and relegation on PPG basis.

Second we DO NOT start another season until 2021 until the pandemic is over and vaccine in place.

OR we do what the FA , the GOVT and UEFA are suggesting finish the season behind closed doors which is what is happening in Germany Itlay & Spain

 

[FootballHQ]

What happens if by September the season won't be able to start? What's the point of stopping one season when you can't start another. If by that time football is only allowed to start by January of next year, what do you do in that case? I would say it's best to keep all options open at the moment.

That's the part that isn't really getting explained to me either.

It's getting pretty clear now it will still be unsafe to play football in June. Even if proposals are drawn up you can certainly see many footballers objecting to playing which is very understandable.

Not sure why if it's unsafe to play on June 30th it's going to be fine on August 11th or whenever new season is starting, is the virus evaporating in July? Even if next season starts around then it will likely have to be stopped I fear so can't see it finishig before May unless loads of cup competitions get culled which could happen of course.

23 team league also seems a bit of a long shot but I can see some logic behind that, keeps WBA and Leeds happy and also in case of major disruption next season it might turn out to be one long 20-22 season.

Let's not forget 22-23 is going to be disrupted because of a world cup in the middle of it. Could be August 2023 before we get a normal season again.

 

[RedDevil@84]

What happens if by September the season won't be able to start? What's the point of stopping one season when you can't start another

One, Closure.
Two, sync up with other European nations rather than screwing up this season and next as well.

 

[pratyush_utd]

This is embarrassing, the club is just as bad as its fanbase.

They're having a pop at their own mayor who recently voiced his concerns about football resuming behind closed doors - the same concerns every sane person shares might I add.

This is disgraceful. I hope the season gets voided and they don't win the league now. I was almost feeling sorry for them. This just reminded how wrong is that.

 

[RedDevil@84]

This is embarrassing, the club is just as bad as its fanbase.

They're having a pop at their own mayor who recently voiced his concerns about football resuming behind closed doors - the same concerns every sane person shares might I add.

Either they are plain idiots when it comes to PR
Or the club knows that frantic dippers would keep calling them or harassing the administration to know if the title is slipping away

 

[McGrathsipan]

From a friend:

Premier league is back in June. A sport travel agency that manages logistics for some top teams (spurs, city, wolves, newcastle, rangers to name a few).
Has been tasked with arranging hotels and travel for 8 weeks starting mid may.

All premier league teams will play their remaining games at St. George’s Park, behind closed doors and for TV only. The complex will host 2/3 games a day that will be streamed live.

The players will go into isolation mid may at select hotels in the vicinity of st georges and will train at local clubs grounds.

They will not be able to see family and friends during the period of games. Each player will be tested regulary to ensure safety and hotels will be locked down for players only.

Looks like we are going to have a world cup style June with loads of games to watch.

Not sure how true. Sent via WhatsApp. True or not how would you guys feel if this was the solution?

You can have my fakenews title for posting this! Thats some ITK bullsh*t.

All PL Players to hell with your wives and kids and you are living in a hotel for 2 months! I dont think so

 

[ClaytonBlackmoorLeftPeg]

Either they are plain idiots when it comes to PR
Or the club knows that frantic dippers would keep calling them or harassing the administration to know if the title is slipping away

they honestly have the worst PR dept in football. Suarez, furlough, this. They honestly have no clue.

 

[clarkydaz]

in the meantime, our primary focus remains responding to the humanitarian crisis which continues to unfold and in particular providing ongoing support to various NHS initiatives and those experiencing food poverty and social isolation.

i thought it was taking money off the taxpayer

 

[klayton88]

You can have my fakenews title for posting this! Thats some ITK bullsh*t.

All PL Players to hell with your wives and kids and you are living in a hotel for 2 months! I dont think so

Didn't claim it as fact mate. If you read the bottom you'd have seen that.

 

[Blades1889]

City will not be kicked out this year with everything that is going on and even then, questions need to be asked whether the competition will be played at all. All in all, 5th wouldn't do it for you, like it will not do it for MU either.

Further, and I mean absolutely no disrespect as SU have been amazing this year, but with your run in and the run ins of the teams around you, your chances of CL must be about 10/1 if played out.

Only teams that really win with the most likely scenario in my opinion - table as it stands/PPG, no relegation but Dippers given the title, is Norwich, Villa, Bournemouth and the Dippers.

We were also favourites to go down and we continued to defy the odds all season. I was commenting on if the season couldn’t be played out and how we had the issue of having one less game played than the majority of the table.

 

[Dave Smith]

Why wont they be kicked out? If anything, a delayed start to CL works against them.

I just do not see how CAS hears their appeal in time. As I have said elsewhere, you cannot ban them first and have the possibility of them winning an appeal. Otherwise it is like executing a death row prisoner then finding out on appeal a month later that they were innocent.

As for the CL not being on next season if that happens then all things are moot anyway as there will be no one playing in it. For sure, they probably will be banned for 2021/22 but qualification for that will be on 2020/21 tables. Either way I am fairly certain they will be safe next year.

We were also favourites to go down and we continued to defy the odds all season. I was commenting on if the season couldn’t be played out and how we had the issue of having one less game played than the majority of the table.

Yes, that is true. However, as I have said above, I just do not see a way that City get banned for 2020/21. UEFA want confirmation by end of August (I think the 29th) so I just do not see how CAS will hear it in time with the backlog and if that is the case then all SU miss out on is Ropey League automatic qualification vs play off qualification. However, Ropey League always appears to be a poisoned chalice for teams like SU as it doesn't pay enough for you to get higher quality players and you have to play so many games plus Thurs/Sun which seems to have some sort of psychological hit. I mean even Burnley who are a pretty stable PL club now had a tough time last year managing it and they have a lot more experience of playing in the PL.

 

[thegregster]

I just do not see how CAS hears their appeal in time. As I have said elsewhere, you cannot ban them first and have the possibility of them winning an appeal. Otherwise it is like executing a death row prisoner then finding out on appeal a month later that they were innocent.

As for the CL not being on next season if that happens then all things are moot anyway as there will be no one playing in it. For sure, they probably will be banned for 2021/22 but qualification for that will be on 2020/21 tables. Either way I am fairly certain they will be safe next year.



Yes, that is true. However, as I have said above, I just do not see a way that City get banned for 2020/21. UEFA want confirmation by end of August (I think the 29th) so I just do not see how CAS will hear it in time with the backlog and if that is the case then all SU miss out on is Ropey League automatic qualification vs play off qualification. However, Ropey League always appears to be a poisoned chalice for teams like SU as it doesn't pay enough for you to get higher quality players and you have to play so many games plus Thurs/Sun which seems to have some sort of psychological hit. I mean even Burnley who are a pretty stable PL club now had a tough time last year managing it and they have a lot more experience of playing in the PL.

Highly likely IMO.

Holland and France aren't allowing football to be played till Sep?

So how can their teams play in the qualifers in July/Aug?

 

[Blades1889]

Yes, that is true. However, as I have said above, I just do not see a way that City get banned for 2020/21. UEFA want confirmation by end of August (I think the 29th) so I just do not see how CAS will hear it in time with the backlog and if that is the case then all SU miss out on is Ropey League automatic qualification vs play off qualification. However, Ropey League always appears to be a poisoned chalice for teams like SU as it doesn't pay enough for you to get higher quality players and you have to play so many games plus Thurs/Sun which seems to have some sort of psychological hit. I mean even Burnley who are a pretty stable PL club now had a tough time last year managing it and they have a lot more experience of playing in the PL.

I can see why you’d say that, but we are used to playing more games a season anyway and more importantly our medical team is extraordinarily good so I don’t see it as a problem personally.

 

[Dave Smith]

I can see why you’d say that, but we are used to playing more games a season anyway and more importantly our medical team is extraordinarily good so I don’t see it as a problem personally.

Do not get me wrong, seeing SU get CL would be a great advert for football and I would love to see it if it did not directly affect my team (and even then it would sweeten the pill). However, if the league cannot play out I do not see how the Dutch model, PPG or as it stands affects you as you get the same outcome unless UEFA go hardcore and ban City without an appeal which I think would be ridiculous and would open them up to a massive law suit if City did win the appeal.

 

[Amir]

One, Closure.
Two, sync up with other European nations rather than screwing up this season and next as well.

UEFA - or someone else, but there isn't one - really needs to take control over this or the different schedules of the leagues will create mayhem.

Unfortunately, all they've been able to do so far was make threats, then retreat. Useless.

 

[NinjaZombie]

This is embarrassing, the club is just as bad as its fanbase.

They're having a pop at their own mayor who recently voiced his concerns about football resuming behind closed doors - the same concerns every sane person shares might I add.

Wow. I take back what I said about the club itself staying classy while their ex-players, pundits and fans are shouting about resuming football in the middle of a pandemic for selfish purposes.

 

[doriandun]

Personally if i was to restart the league it would be jan 2021, with pre season from jan 1st.

The only way to restart the league now would be to utilize no more than two staduims in wales or scotland, as their numbers are relatively low, with two matches a day or every other day, again two matches a day, section of an area as a camp for all 20 teams in the premier league, with a view for the league to start in JUNE, and last no more than 6 weeks, once completed repeat the same process for the championship.

If unable to start in June, prefereably just void the season and hope the Jan 2021,things are better, and for the 1st 4 months of the year just have a tournament sort of event, 4 groups of 5 teams, utilizing hopefully social distancing in relation to gate reciepts, merchandise at just above cost price.

I would also float the idea to clubs about combining and taking on a new form, 'club name' i.e. loose 3 clubs from the premier league, 4 to 6 from the championship,league 1 and league 2 respectively, rather than bankcruptcy.

Listening to Boris harping on about past the peak, with over 500 deaths in the last day, is worrying, when 30 days from now, the Uk will easily have close to 40,000 deaths, this is on the basis that i am forecasting a minimum 250 people, pass away a day, and the uk still have over 144,000 active cases.