Leicester were in free fall.
Honestly seen us finishing 3rd, Chelsea 4th and Leicester 5th
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Honestly seen us finishing 3rd, Chelsea 4th and Leicester 5th
No they wouldnt have.
They used the uefa directive they annouced a day or two ago but not other position has been awarded
So it seems that some fans have gone from:
"null and void is the only way" to
"I like this Dutch model, because that way LFC don't get the title and Utd might even still get CL, its a win-win. Yeah feck that void nonsense lets go Dutch"
It's a great day when you wake up and realise that tribalism is alive and kicking, welcome back to the dark side lads.
I was never a null and void is the only way to go man, but I agree the Dutch have come up with a better solution for all involved
There wont be a winner if they follow the Dutch league thats the point. They only awarded the cl places etc because uefa ordered them to
Thats why I said some fans mate. It wasn't blanket support for a null and void across the board. I do think most people are realising it was never being considered as a legitimate option.
Yep. I'lll be happy if they use sporting merit in deciding the outcome of the PL (assuming that it can't be finished which is still my preferred option).
This. It fecks utd over but its the only fair way
There wont be a champion or relegation if its used.
Fecking us and yourself over but its the only fair way
it is a legitimate option
If they use sporting merit it would be an incredible decision for them to award European places which are still very tight and not the title which is 93% done.
Really? It hasn't been mentioned by any leagues or UEFA as such.
Its exactly what happened in holland. You can't award liverpool a title and not relegate the bottom 3.
You either do it all or nothing in that regard.
They only announced those that qualified for Europe because UEFA ordered them to.
different things and you are conflating the two.
if there is European football next season, you have to determine who enters, and that should be based on league places as much as possible. Remember Liverpool get a place in Europe through this as well.
Awarding the title to a team that’s not won it, and relegation/ promotion are completely different matters.
Neither has awarding a title to a team that hasnt won it so i guess thats of the table as well. Thanks for pointing that out
But you're awarding european places to teams who haven't mathematically earned it.
That's covered by sporting merit.
This whole ”awarding European spots” argument with clubs suing for missing out is going to be completely moot as there is clearly not going to be any European football next season. It’s just going to end up with qualifying spots this season and qualifying spots of the next completed domestic season arguing over who has qualified for European football when it finally returns.
It's one option and there is no clear solution. Probably not the most likely outcome as what Holland did makes more sense.
again you are confusing the two.
How would you do it?
Remember this is not Null and Void. It’s suspending the season. means we are not going back to 18/19 which would be utterly ridiculous.
If you're going to award places based on sporting merit I don't think you can justify awarding teams a place in next seasons CL & EL (should they take place of course) when there must be about 8 different teams who could still qualify and no-one knows who would be in the EL or CL and at the same time not award a title which is vastly more close to being done. I really can't see the PL making that decision - can you?
Bringing it back after weeks of isolation to play unfit teams behind closed doors is utter horseshit. May as well toss coins.
Scrap it and start a new season when it can actually happen.
Scrap it and start a new season when it can actually happen.
On the assumption that Europe goes ahead next year and the league can’t finish this season, then how are you going to determine who e terms form the PM.
Whether a league title is awarded or not is irrelevant.
so your argument is that if Liverpool can’t be given the title, then no one can be in Europe next year? The two things are independent decisions and not reliant upon each other, how can you not see that?
Spot on.
It's not ok to suggest a team that are first, 25 points clear of second, would finish first, but it's fine to say that a team in 4th, 3 points clear of 5th would finish 4th.
There is some very flawed logic going on here.
Worth pointing out that the league being incomplete wasn't the reason given for not naming Dutch champions. They specifically said it was because there were teams level on points at the top. Had Ajax been miles ahead it's quite likely that they would have been named champions.
So when people talk about the PL following "the Dutch model", they should be aware that the logic of that model doesn't preclude Liverpool being named as champions.
So when people talk about the PL following "the Dutch model", they should be aware that the logic of that model doesn't preclude Liverpool being named as champions.
I agree they're not dependant on each other - the PL could certainly do what you're suggesting. But one decision can influence the other and I can't see the PL thinking "Wolves deserved a EL spot, but Liverpool don't deserve the title".
Someone should change the title wording then. Too much premature relief going on this thread.
What we know so far:
Belgium - null and void? No
Holland - null and void? No
Scotland - null and void? No
Belgium - announce champions? Most likely to officially on Monday
Holland - announce champions? No
Scotland - announce champions? Likely to as already raised the motion earlier
The only thing the countries are following each other on is that null and void is definitely not happening. Hope this helps.
They never mentioned awarding the title on sporting merit they only talked about uefa tournaments qualification based on sporting merit.
"if terminated leagues are to submit clubs to European competition in the 2021-22 season, they do so “based on sporting merit”
this.
I know right?!So it seems that some fans have gone from:
"null and void is the only way" to
"I like this Dutch model, because that way LFC don't get the title and Utd might even still get CL, its a win-win. Yeah feck that void nonsense lets go Dutch"
It's a great day when you wake up and realise that tribalism is alive and kicking, welcome back to the dark side lads.
These posters that come in this thread and keep going on about a solution that happens to suit their club eh
So it seems that some fans have gone from:
"null and void is the only way" to
"I like this Dutch model, because that way LFC don't get the title and Utd might even still get CL, its a win-win. Yeah feck that void nonsense lets go Dutch"
It's a great day when you wake up and realise that tribalism is alive and kicking, welcome back to the dark side lads.
Give up man!
You want to answer each and every United fan who writes here trying to dispute everything which is not conducive to your beloved Liverpool being given the title.
Are you aware there's a pandemic going on right now?
Is Liverpool winning the title the be-all and end-all of the history of the world?!
Is it possible that you and Megamandrive (imho the worst two Liverpool posters here) have not been sent away from here till now?
Watching Liverpool fans lose their shit over this is extremely entertaining.
You will be thread banned soon. I can sense it. You're probably already on many people's ignore list.
yeah but I find it illogical as well. I mean for promotion and relegation you go back to the 18/19 season results so why should European places be handled differently? A team that got promoted in 18/19 and would have been relegated in 19/20 is going to remain in the top flight (RKC Walwijk). So for them it's going back to last reason results, so whats the difference here? It doesn't make sense to me.
I didn't say UEFA directed it. I believe the PL will apply sporting merit when deciding things should the season not be completed.
So who do they relegate?
I know right?!
These posters that come in this thread and keep going on about a solution that happens to suit their club eh
No problem admitting my bias
You will be thread banned soon. I can sense it. You're probably already on many people's ignore list already.
Nah, I'm sure they all adore me. *cough*
Please stop with the compliments, I'm blushing.
Just like when whichever two bit league were going to declare a winner, Holland basically stopping their league without any champ will have no bearing on ours.
Let's see Spain and Italy first.
Also i forget which paper led with it, but there was mad talk the gov would allow closed doors in a couple of weeks!!
Let's see Spain and Italy first.
Also i forget which paper led with it, but there was mad talk the gov would allow closed doors in a couple of weeks!!