Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

[redman5]

As others said, i would also say feck this season, if we were in your position. I do understand the frustration, though, you haven't won in a while, and are a special bunch.
Lives are more important than football, no matter how much we love the sport.
The behind closed doors argument is bullcrap, one player has it, spreads it to other players, they go home to their families and they get infected. It doesn't work.
Sad as it is, i doubt we'll see much more football this year, except like.. Belarus, i think their league is still going. Maybe we should all find a team to support there, just for a quick fix?

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

 

[dwd]

So are you saying the news of declining death reports in Spain make you immediately excited that football might be coming back?

United play in La Liga, remember? Anyway, that poster hasn’t got a clue what they are talking about.

 

[TheReligion]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

What's the relevance of this

 

[stevoc]

United play in La Liga, remember? Anyway, that poster hasn’t got a clue what they are talking about.

That seems clear from his posts in this thread.

 

[stevoc]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

Can you envisage a scenario where football not being played in England would help with that?

 

[Sandikan]

So are you saying the news of declining death reports in Spain make you immediately excited that football might be coming back?

The mods really need to remove this poster. It's hopefully an ignorant teen as otherwise an adult couldn't be this legitimately hard of thinking surely?

 

[Sandikan]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

Have some of you liverpool fans no limit to the depths you'll drop to?

 

[Josh 76]

Have some of you liverpool fans no limit to the depths you'll drop to?

Silly question.

 

[Vanrouge]

Oh my bad. How unlucky am I ? I've stumbled across the only Manchester United fan on the planet that would graciously forfeit the league title & agree to his side's 25 point lead being erased from the record books. Well this just happens to be your lucky day, because I'm the only Liverpool fan on the planet that believes you.

ps

I don't really believe you

Your prerogative, mate, but you're wrong. The thing is, it's very telling that you can't conceive that others might have this mindset, that many of us are people before we're fans, and that the specific football clubs we support and their trophy haul is literally bottom of a list that includes the health and safety of our friends, family, neighbours, and strangers everywhere. Your inability to recognize this is so very telling. Thanks for showing your true colours.

 

[Infra-red]

It's difficult to see any football being played much before September (and even then, it would be behind closed doors), but that doesn't necessarily mean that this season can't/won't be finished, it's just that it would have to eat in to next season a little.

That might seem undesirable, but given that the current COVID-19 modelling predicts a series of waves of infection (with corresponding lockdowns with each upsurge), it is likely that next season will be significantly (possibly fatally) disrupted anyway.

Maybe the best thing to do is finish 2019/20 off in late August/September, and then more-or-less write off 2020/21 (at least in the traditional 38 game league sense) and come up with a different format for the games, involving significantly fewer fixtures.

 

[SirAnderson]

Yeah in turn I presume Sky and BT will also in turn hand back all the advertising revenue they generated and subscription fees.

Exactly, the money is in games played, voided or not. They rendered service with the 29 games played, they didn't with the remaining 9.

 

[PoTMS]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

This is one of the stupidest strawman arguments I've ever seen. No surprise, it's from a Liverpool fan.

 

[Judas]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

Posts like this are so shameful, and totally obviously desperate. I said awhile back the Liverpool fans on here would be worse if the season was cancelled than if they actually won it, and we’re seeing all the signs. Disgusting stuff.

 

[Klopper76]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

I’m not sure that’s relevant to this discussion. People die every day all over the world. That doesn’t mean the world should stop spinning. Why would a country like the UK stop their football season because Malaria is a problem somewhere thousands of miles away?

This is different. It’s in the UK, it’s killing people in the UK, and resuming everything like it’s a normal day simply isn’t possible. It’d be irresponsible to do so.

I still don’t know what’ll happen. If it reaches September and this is still ongoing then starting a new season might not be possible.

 

[Lee565]

I'm curious how things will play out with players who's contracts expire at the end of june, will players be allowed to just leave sign for a new club as free agent whilst the rest of this season is still being played?

 

[Member 101269]

A colleague in China..

What will return and when?

Maybe ten weeks after China got into serious trouble, A lot of things are back, shopping centers ( with social distancing) restaurants ( mostly take away) Busses trains metros, intercity travel are back more or less. Sport isn’t, music concerts no, Cinemas are closed night clubs are closed, there is no international travel.
education is coming in limited form and might not be 100% for another 6 months.
What are you waiting for and when will it return?.
I think there’s no football next season. I think international travel in a serious form Is 15 months away. i think a vaccine will be quick but distribution slow- I think cinema is doomed...
Might not be so bad actually

 

[Sandikan]

A colleague in China..

What does your colleague think about the exceptionally low death count quoted?
Presuming they are free to put their real thoughts across of course!

 

[AlwaysRed66]

What does your colleague think about the exceptionally low death count quoted?
Presuming they are free to put their real thoughts across of course!

They probably will never be heard of again if they stated the true figures.

 

[Member 101269]

What does your colleague think about the exceptionally low death count quoted?
Presuming they are free to put their real thoughts across of course!

That isn't something you can discuss over the network

 

[Sandikan]

That isn't something you can discuss over the network

I was surprised the details you mentioned were to be honest.

 

[SirAnderson]

United play in La Liga, remember? Anyway, that poster hasn’t got a clue what they are talking about.

He is completely deluded, its like he believe's if he says often and as confident as he can that it will be so.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Spain daily deaths and cases are going down day by day... it's early April.. yet some on here seem to think that by July we will still have record breaking deaths around the world and that football is simply not possible to be played 2.5 full months from now.

Personally I'm really excited to have football back! Looks like the end of the road would be by Mid May then we would need a month of preseason so football back in July odds on it will happen!

Your optimism has spilled over into total delusion.

China have been locking down since January with much more draconian measures than what we have seen in the UK. Only now are some restrictions being lifted, but they're still a long way off from being back to normal, and sporting events have not re-started, social distancing is still in effect.

As soon as any country begins to lift restrictions, a second wave will begin. It's certainly a slight positive to see cases begin to drop in Spain and Italy, but that's because everyone is staying inside and social contact is being curbed, and despite that, the virus is still spreading, just a little slower.

I'm not sure were you are looking to be able to see an "end of the road" in 6 weeks time. Is there a credible source backed with research also saying that mid-May is going to be the turning point which you're predicting? Or are you just trying to convince yourself?

 

[The_Midfielder]

A simple question.. How many of you will. be willing to go to a packed stadium, using a crowded mass transit this year?

 

[Roboc7]

Whenever they decide to resume the season it will inevitably all fall apart as soon as any players/managers/staff are diagnosed with the virus. Post lockdown the virus isn’t going away for at least six months and that is if you are being extremely optimistic. Could even happen that day before season resumes a player is diagnosed and straight away fixtures cancelled.

At this point I can only see this season being completed if it’s at the expense of next season or the Euro’s and that would have a bigger impact. Still see most likely scenario being this season being null and void and think have to be huge doubts about next season as well.

 

[Ronaldo's Mum Eh?]

Here we go

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-to-play-behind-closed-doors-than-not-at-all

 

[Pexbo]

Here we go

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-to-play-behind-closed-doors-than-not-at-all

He also says it has to be finished before September/October.

There will need to be a reasonable preseason for it to be legitimately competitive or there is no point playing it out. So you are looking at at least 12 weeks of football.

Football is already taking a battering over wages, good luck explaining why thousands of people need to travel around the country and require medical staff and police presence at each game.

 

[dwd]

He also says it has to be finished before September/October.

There will need to be a reasonable preseason for it to be legitimately competitive or there is no point playing it out. So you are looking at at least 12 weeks of football.

Football is already taking a battering over wages, good luck explaining why thousands of people need to travel around the country and require medical staff and police presence at each game.

Yep. He literally says in the article it's not up to UEFA when they play or not. It's just more blind hope than anything.

 

[Rooney24]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

Jesus fecking Christ.

Unbeliveable

 

[esmufc07]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

This isn’t a good post.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

& yet over 1,200 children die every day from malaria & have done for years. Maybe some lives are more important than others to us westerners. Maybe deep down we're all just bullshit hypocrites.

Disgraceful post.

 

[FootballHQ]

Looks like Bundesliga are still going tentatively for a May return, Bayern Munich returning to training on Monday.

 

[FootballHQ]

A simple question.. How many of you will. be willing to go to a packed stadium, using a crowded mass transit this year?

It simply won't be an option this year.

 

[dumbo]

Here we go

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-to-play-behind-closed-doors-than-not-at-all

“The fact is that we really don’t know much,” Ceferin told the German broadcaster ZDF.

That means knowledge of this situation and the ensuing knock-on effects is very limited.

“We are waiting for the development of this terrible situation in the world, and mainly in Europe.

That means planning and date setting for potential footy restarts is very difficult and the unknown affects of this health crisis make the future very uncertain to predict.

Pushed on whether the season could be abandoned totally, Ceferin said: “If the authorities do not allow us to play, then we cannot play.”

That means they are deferring to authorities beyond football hierarchies and unless given the clearance to do so we cannot play.

Please do read the article though, because it really pours ice cold reality on your bullish attitude towards a quick resumption.

 

[spiriticon]

Liverpool need the title money to pay their poor furloughed staff. Just give them the title.

 

[TheLord]

Breaking: Inside sources now confirm that at least one non-playing Liverpool staff has not been furloughed yet !

He is the same person who was employed by the club to make a shiny new 4 feet by 3 feet trophy cabinet, but higher authorities now realise he has more work to do as the new cabinet needs to be taken down.

 

[The_Midfielder]

It simply won't be an option this year.

I dont see how the next season is possible.. forget this season.. unless it can be done closed doors... Who would go to the stadium..??.
social distancing is helping to flatten the curve.. but once that is removed.. there will still. be infected patients.. hospitals would still be crazy crowded... vaccine, is when the world will be back to normal

 

[Paxi]

Ashamed of Nothing.

90% of the fan base are fecking vile.

 

[OnlyTwoDaSilvas]

Here we go

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...r-to-play-behind-closed-doors-than-not-at-all

Which parts of this article support what you are saying?

It's pretty much just more blind optimism, and UEFA even say it's not in their hands. Of course it is better to finish the season than not from a purely sporting perspective, but only when it is safe to do so. The point where it is safe to do so is still some way ahead and impossible to predict.

The primary priority of all the members of the working group is to preserve public health.

 

[christinaa]

Just void the season and gift Liverpool 80% of the trophy already for the games played. They'll top up the rest themselves.

 

[arnie_ni]

Per the athletic fifa have indefinitely extended the season. Contracts extended and transfer window to be moved