Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th

And people who've been continually harping on the "behind closed door" theory want to conveniently ignore the fact that even when restrictions are eased off, there will still be health advice for people over 65 or those with major comorbidities (like diabetes or heart disease) to avoid all kinds of group meetings. Case fatality rate in the "vulnerable group" is extremely high.

So there will certainly be a period of transition (may be one or two months, I am guessing) when young, healthy folks will be allowed to go out in "smallish" groups, but senior citizens will not.

So do you ask clubs managed by the likes of the 73-year old Roy Hodgson do away with their first team managers for the rest of the season, just so that Liverfool can win their first ever Premier League title behind closed doors?
 
Honest question because I don't see the reasoning behind that logic - how would it impact them negatively? Surely this season getting finished would lead to more gate receipts? Or are you talking about finishing it without fans in attendance?

I'm talking about in a scenario where next season is delayed and/or shortened (less games/cups scrapped etc) or maybe doesn't even take place as a result of trying to accommodate the completion of this one.
 
Really don't see how the season gets finished. The U.K. is a long way from reaching its peak and setting into any sort of normality. I doubt an August start for 20/21 is even achievable at the moment.

I’d imagine the PL already know the season will be cancelled. It’s about selling it to fans at this point and gradually making it seem the only apparent option.

Sucks if you’re some clubs, benefits you if you’re another. I hate the idea of United being in the EL for another year but if that’s the least disruptive option to football then so be it. It’s just simply impossible to finish this season now without cannibalising into next.
 
Speak to anyone who knows what is going on and they will tell us best case scenario we can start returning to normal in June. But that does not include spectator sport. The 2019/2020 season is already null and void. Forget resuming the champions league that would be completely irresponsible.
 
It's why I think that the worse this situation gets the greater the chances of the footballing authorities ending this season with current standings being final. This gives everyone time to prepare for a new season, which at this moment in time, is still 4 or 5 months away. If it's still not safe to do so, then the season doesn't start until it is safe.

There’s more chance of the football season resuming tomorrow than there is of the Premier League using the present table as final i.e. relegating teams in bottom three, basing CL spots off present top four. Not happening. It’s either resumed and completed whenever possible or voided, those are the two options.
 
We’re in an unprecedented situation where we don’t even know if there will be a season next year never mind a full one. So call me sceptical mate but I don’t see anyone involved voting for a solution that adds 20 games to an already packed domestic playing schedule.

You're probably right, they want as much money as possible for as little effort as possible.

Whatever is decided, somebody is going to be unhappy!
 
Of course in all this talk of finishing this season at all costs, i think given that the vast majority of us are fans of PL teams we forget that teams further down the footballing pyramid rely heavily on gate receipts to stay afloat. So trying to finish this season at the cost of the next one could put a lot of clubs out of business.

That literally makes no sense. Clubs will only gain revenue when football starts again no matter how long it takes so please explain to me why it's makes no sense to finish off this season so clubs can get their prize money? Why are you in such a rush to void this season in order to start the next one, when no one knows when it can start or whether we will be able to finish it, if as predicted, we get a 2nd wave? Like I said before football can wait and should wait as there are more pressing concerns.
 
On the 22/3/20 germany went full lockdown.
In the entire two months to March 15, germany had tested in the region of 160,000 people, on 22/3/20, germany had just over 23,000 postive case and just over 90 deaths.


On March 30th, 63,000 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 560 deaths in germany.

So their postive case had multipled by a factor of just over 2.7% and deaths by 6.2% since March 22nd 2020, after lockdown.

The reasoning for their low fatality rates wouldn't be from testing, it would have to be something else,testing only slows the spread as does the lockdown.
It might have something to do with the pnemonia vaccination, in which they are deploying.

On March 20, Lothar Wieler, the president of the Robert Koch Institute—Germany’s main public health body—said German laboratories are now able to conduct some 160,000 tests per week.
Another theory to explain the high death rates in Italy, is the great overuse of antibiotics in Italy, both at hospitals and in their pork production (on top in Europe). Many of the patients infected by the corona virus, will also have bacterial infections (sneaking in the backdoor), and are therefore given antibiotics. You may not die from the virus itself, but by following bacterial infections. What you don´t want then, is multiresistent bacterias caused by overuse of antibiotics.

There could be many reasons why there is such a huge gap in death rates between countries, and probably there are many factors working together.
 
The Football is not important argument can be used for every option though.
Still don't understand why many are so eager to cancel this Season. I mean who cares about next Season right now anyway. Let's try to finish this one because it's the fairest option and most importantly still possible.

You might like to understand that there's a Virus going round and the NHS and all the great staff are currently stretched and will get stretched even more.

Still don't understand why many are so eager to play out this season AT ALL COSTS!
I mean who cares about this season, feck it - it's this disease, deaths and its' conseguences that's the most important issues.
 
I’m hoping most of the people saying the league will be finished aren’t currently living in England and experiencing the quite frankly scary situation that many of us are facing. It’s so ignorant it’s bordering on offensive.
 
I agree with the first part of the bolded bit, not the second one. Football is not the most important thing right now, indeed, but a "soooo... NULL AND VOID!" reasoning doesn't make sense either and is premature. Let's just not focus on football, solve the current crisis, and once that is done, assess the remaining options.

Well Wimbledon Tennis have stated plainly that it's not being played this year.
At least they have the balls to come to a decision be it one way or another.

Why are the FA still dilly-dallying?
Do they want to keep everyone on edge not knowing what is going to happen, players, teams, supporters, staff etc etc etc ??!
Come to a decision one way or another and get on with it !
 
I’m hoping most of the people saying the league will be finished aren’t currently living in England and experiencing the quite frankly scary situation that many of us are facing. It’s so ignorant it’s bordering on offensive.

You keep repeating this about people currently not living in England - don't you understand that this virus has created deaths and havoc ALL OVER THE WORLD?
Unfortunately England has not even started to go through what other countries like Italy and Spain have gone through.
It's going to get scarier.
 
Playing it at all costs behind closed doors and/or in one venue doesn't make sense. If you think about it most games will be dead rubbers. It's really not worth risking players safety or anyone elses for games that mostly will be for no real value.

This season is a write off. Next season will be domestic only I reckon so no CL or EL.
They might have the FA Cup but it depends when the season can start
 
Really don't see how the season gets finished. The U.K. is a long way from reaching its peak and setting into any sort of normality. I doubt an August start for 20/21 is even achievable at the moment.

I’d imagine the PL already know the season will be cancelled. It’s about selling it to fans at this point and gradually making it seem the only apparent option.

Sucks if you’re some clubs, benefits you if you’re another. I hate the idea of United being in the EL for another year but if that’s the least disruptive option to football then so be it. It’s just simply impossible to finish this season now without cannibalising into next.

This in bold.
 
You keep repeating this about people currently not living in England - don't you understand that this virus has created deaths and havoc ALL OVER THE WORLD?
Unfortunately England has not even started to go through what other countries like Italy and Spain have gone through.
It's going to get scarier.

Because I’m talking about the PL being continued, quite obviously? That’s the point of thread. Don’t act like I’m ignorant to the misery all over the world. Strange person to target with all the stupidity flying around in this thread.
 
Simple answer would be to finish the season as it is with current placings standing as final. That way everyone could focus on the important things which is to get through this crisis with as few casualties as possible. Football could then possibly look to starting a new season - hopefully as planned - in August with all promotion & relegation issues settled, along with European places sorted out, & of course, the Premier League having new champions. Some clubs would fare better than others, but there are obviously more important issues that need to be addressed. I think that's something we can all agree on.

I'd have no issue with that, I don't think the relegated clubs would be accepting of it though, and given I doubt there will be any European football next season the top 7 stuff doesn't matter either, so the fairest solution would be to just void the league.
 
What about this?

All leagues null and void, restart from scratch in August-October.
CL and EL competitions continue at the start of 2021 from where they left off.

This makes the sense in theory. I think the idea of European football this year would be mad, and I can't see many countries wanting it to happen.
 
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What about this?

All leagues null and void, restart from scratch in August-October.
CL and EL competitions continue at the start of 2021 from where they left off.

Imagine the absolute fury at it being that way round...though people seemed comfy when league and euro were reversed in your idea.

Binning off euro next season would at least solve once issue.
 
Because I’m talking about the PL being continued, quite obviously? That’s the point of thread. Don’t act like I’m ignorant to the misery all over the world. Strange person to target with all the stupidity flying around in this thread.

I apologise as i maybe was too personal with you, and not the argument, in my answer.
Sorry.
 
You might like to understand that there's a Virus going round and the NHS and all the great staff are currently stretched and will get stretched even more.

Still don't understand why many are so eager to play out this season AT ALL COSTS!
I mean who cares about this season, feck it - it's this disease, deaths and its' conseguences that's the most important issues.
I havn´t seen anyone arguing the season should finish at all costs. The arguments I´ve seen, is that you don´t know how this will look in a couple of months from now, so there is no point it totally ruling it out either.
 
I havn´t seen anyone arguing the season should finish at all costs. The arguments I´ve seen, is that you don´t know how this will look in a couple of months from now, so there is no point it totally ruling it out either.

Read through the 149 pages and you'll see many
 
Well Wimbledon Tennis have stated plainly that it's not being played this year.
At least they have the balls to come to a decision be it one way or another.

Why are the FA still dilly-dallying?
Do they want to keep everyone on edge not knowing what is going to happen, players, teams, supporters, staff etc etc etc ??!
Come to a decision one way or another and get on with it !

Maybe because it's easier to postpone something that hasn't started, rather than 75% of the way through?
 


Pointless statement


Even in 48 hours they can't possibly have any update on a re start beyond the original "intention is to finish the season".

Maybe in a week or ten days they'll push the suspension back to June 1st, but even that's too soon next few days.
 
That "short" is still about 3 weeks after normalcy restores. Players will need at least that much time for getting match fit.

The more you look at it, the more you see no other option other than "terminate" the season.
Agreed mate. In fact you’d probably need quite a while.
 
Scraping this thing will just make Liverpool's title even more historic. It's still there for everyone to see.
 
If the virus continues to cause problems across the globe for 6 months or more, then logically the most sensible option would be to cancel the 20/21 season, complete the 19/20 season in full when safe to do so. Bring the delayed Euros forward then bring the 21/22 season forward to help with the Winter 22 World Cup?
 
If the virus continues to cause problems across the globe for 6 months or more, then logically the most sensible option would be to cancel the 20/21 season, complete the 19/20 season in full when safe to do so. Bring the delayed Euros forward then bring the 21/22 season forward to help with the Winter 22 World Cup?
It's logical to scrap a whole season to play the last 9 games of one? Nah...

Have you even thought about how much money would be lost in comparison?
 
It's logical to scrap a whole season to play the last 9 games of one? Nah...

Have you even thought about how much money would be lost in comparison?

it's not just 9 games though is it? Could be as many as 18? if United get to both cup finals?

If it's not safe to play football in front of crowds until January or later next season, then most clubs in the football league will be in trouble anyway. Plus it will be difficult to cram a whole season in to 5 months? We could end up starting a new season and then needing to stop again if there is a second wave of Covid19. What's your solution then? Stop and void again?
 
I don't get why some are so hell-bent on cancelling and voiding the league. When it is deemed safe to play by the authorities (and only then), we will play. That could be in May, in August or in December. What does it matter? Why would you rather start a new season before finishing this one apart from denying Liverpool the title? Also keep in mind it is much easier to play nine games than 38 (in case the situation gets worse again and there has to be another suspension). All press releases from UEFA and the national leagues and what you can hear through the grapevine clearly indicate that finishing the 19/20 season is top priority. I'd be very surprised if this didn't happen.

In other news: The German state of North-Rhine Westphalia has granted an exception permit for professional football teams. Dortmund have resumed (very limited) first team training in groups of two. Others are expected to follow.
 
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it's not just 9 games though is it? Could be as many as 18? if United get to both cup finals?

If it's not safe to play football in front of crowds until January or later next season, then most clubs in the football league will be in trouble anyway. Plus it will be difficult to cram a whole season in to 5 months? We could end up starting a new season and then needing to stop again if there is a second wave of Covid19. What's your solution then? Stop and void again?

Is there a point in the future, where you would consider it too late to finish 19-20?
 
Is there a point in the future, where you would consider it too late to finish 19-20?

100% Spanish flu lasted for almost 3 years, so if this pandemic were to go on for a similar length of time without any football being played then obviously we would have to start again from scratch, the world would obviously be a very different place in that scenario.

I'm struggling to find the logic behind starting a potentially a 60 plus game season over trying to finish a 9 to 18 game season though?
 
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seen a few articles suggesting this might happen, and it seems a bit crazy but you never know.. I saw they postponed a six nations match because of it

is there even a rule for something like this?

would Liverpool still get the title?
I haven’t watched football in a long long time but it’s very likely they will postpone the season mate. Too dangerous out there.
im just having some fun. I know it’s been cancelled and I miss it so much every week