Is this the same Serie A President that signed off on having Apes as the face of his leagues anti-rascism campaign?
I see why you're so confident.
Could they void the PL due to the Coronavirus? | No | Resuming June 17th
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Is this the same Serie A President that signed off on having Apes as the face of his leagues anti-rascism campaign?
I see why you're so confident.
This may happen, but equally this is the sort of noise heads of/presidents need to be making to appease sponsors/clubs/fans etc.
If it does come to cancelling the season, there needs to be evidence to suggest it's the last/worst case scenario.
Cannavaro, who is currently managing and living in China, thinks it will be difficult for European leagues to finish this year based on what he has experienced, where the response to the pandemic has been more aggressive/planned.
Only way it's finishing is if there's some sort of league camp in the middle of nowhere for the players to play the games in isolation.
Says people are fooling themselves. Posts an article that says it might finish in August.
Seems legit
Problem with starting a new season though is that given the information we have to hand there's a very strong possibility, that, over time, this virus will come back in waves. So regardless of the financial needs of football clubs everything hinges on how long this thing hangs around. Voiding the season will in itself bring a whole new set of problems, not to mention a lot of bad feeling from fans & clubs alike. They've put Euro 2020 back 12 months so that gives everyone a bit of breathing space this summer. It's how they use that 'breathing space' which is going to be interesting, especially considering there won't be any opportunity of a season extension in 2021. Therefore football's governing bodies really need to be 100% sure that if they start a new season at the expense of the previous one, then it's not going to be derailed by this virus. Now I'm no scientist, but I'm pretty sure there's no one in that field that could give any sort of guarantee that this thing won't return again to cause mayhem, death, & disruption. Pity the poor sods who have to make that call.
All leagues below national league have been declared null and void no promotion or relegation
All records expunged
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52052351
All records expunged
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52052351
This has to happen at all levels now?
Can't have one rule for some and other rules for others.
Yep, now the lower leagues have done this the only course of action is to expunge this season at all levels.
Whenever it’s safe to play football again, a decision can be made whether to hold 20/21 season-either cut down somehow or an interim competition to bridge the gap to 21/22.
Only an idiot/extremely callous person/LFC fan would disagree
Whenever it’s safe to play football again, a decision can be made whether to hold 20/21 season-either cut down somehow or an interim competition to bridge the gap to 21/22.
Only an idiot/extremely callous person/LFC fan would disagree
All the professional leagues want to finish. The financial hit from not playing the games will be huge, because TV companies will ask for the money back for un-played matches.
Governments and the virus will make that call though. If pandemic ongoing and / or players, the officials, medical staff needed at games, are still working on the pandemic, no chance of football being played.
If so much money wasn't involved, they'd just null and void like leagues at the bottom now have already. If they haven't even started by the time contracts for players expire at end of June, don't think there will be any choice though.
Governments and the virus will make that call though. If pandemic ongoing and / or players, the officials, medical staff needed at games, are still working on the pandemic, no chance of football being played.
If so much money wasn't involved, they'd just null and void like leagues at the bottom now have already. If they haven't even started by the time contracts for players expire at end of June, don't think there will be any choice though.
The non-league clubs have way less money therefore they've had to make a decision much sooner than the professional leagues. It's still way too soon for the Premier League to come to a conclusion yet.
Exactly! The null and void argument isn't as easy as it sounds... Not only the refund part but surely there is the threat of legal action from some clubs.
Maybe the new testing kits could be used before games to isolate individuals who test positive then rather than having to quarantine the entire team you could just isolate that one player/s?
But as you did the government and virus will be the ultimate measure of what happens... I also fear the possibility of no football until the vaccine arrives, it could be that bad. People talk about flattening the curve but if you still get the odd positive results doesn't that mean the entire team has to go into quarantine mode again?
Say the PL decide to finish in July and August.
The PL has to nominate the teams who qualify for the CL and the Europa League by June 30th. They need to know for the seedings.
So you end up with a PL with nothing to play for bar relegation. It would be basically a pre season for all the teams outside of the relegation fight.
The FA has announced all grassroots football for this season won't be concluded. Understandable really.
It’s going to get voided.
No way it can finish. The only reason it hasn’t been so already is the £££.
No way it can finish. The only reason it hasn’t been so already is the £££.
It's easy to cancel grassroots because there is no money in it.
People need to realise they are not going to be on the hook for £750 million. The season is ending some way or another.
People need to realise they are not going to be on the hook for £750 million. The season is ending some way or another.
Certainly quite a strange time to call those leagues off. If the pro leagues do insist on waiting to play the rest of the season out, those divisions will be on a huge break.
Said the first sentence in an earlier post.
Unsure I agree with the last sentence yet.
With no vacine it might be a while before well see a game of ball again.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/bristol-rovers-women-vow-come-3988739
Here’s an example of a league voiding the season. No promotion or relegation. Bristol Rovers Women’s team we’re 15 points clear but will start again next season.
Here’s an example of a league voiding the season. No promotion or relegation. Bristol Rovers Women’s team we’re 15 points clear but will start again next season.
Maybe the PL will void now that the Gloucestershire County Women’s Football League Division One have led the way?
maybe Liverpool fans will start to comprehend the situation, instead of being selfish cnuts.
It means you can also roll out the 'next year is definitely our year' slogan.
I really don’t get this obsession with LFC regarding the league finishing. The bigger issues are promotion and relegation.
In terms of major trophies we had a good year last year. And when it’s safe to play again this year will hopefully bring another major trophy.
Last year as in the European cup?
Obviously you're not referring to the European charity shield.
Yes the European cup or champions league. The Super Cup is as you rightly point out a glorified European version of the Charity Shield. I’d be more than happy to see all those type of comps cancelled forever. There are too many games already and if nothing else, this tragic enforced break, might be beneficial in terms of players physical health.
Agreed. The league cup should be void for any team competing in Europe that season.
Yep that would make a big difference - a few more full week preparation for games. No more FA cup replays either.There are so many very logical steps which could be taken to improve the calendar, aid player recovery time and ultimately raise performance standard. Tradition and money are the barriers but money can be overcome. England is a stickler for tradition though.
This is a scare mongering. No way does Sky/BT pull the full seasons money. I say this because:
1) PL is their biggest draw. They take that money away they will harm their own product.
2) Whilst the league would be null and void, they would've still aired 75% of games. They for instance are not refunding every Sky Sports package holder for their Aug-March subs. In fact they just have people on freeze so they are still tie to their contracts.
3) The ad money they got will still be kept by them.
4) Sky are coining it in at the moment as they have Xmas ratings for their channels with everyone at home, which equals bigger ad money (please note ad costs are directly linked to average eyes on screen.) Further, people are taking up more subscriptions - particularly Now TV.
If it gets null and voided will the PL lose out on some money i.e. 25%, yes probably. Will they lose all 100%, nope.
The bigger issue for the TV companies would be if they lost more than 25% of next season to finish the last 25% of this. Once that balance tips, they will back a void as well.
Never quite got this mindset, not just regarding opinions on Liverpool but it seems that anyone who expresses desire for football to return automatically want the sick and elderly to die.
It's not mutually exclusive, you can care about people's health and want the sport you love to return.
You could argue too that the Champions League placings are more important for United fans, and this is a United forum, don't forget. But then again, you're a good poster here, so let's not be naive. Putting aside the horrors of the virus and everything else, but looking at this on purely football rivalry terms, can you really not see how almost implausibly funny it is that Liverpool were poised to win the one trophy that's eluded them for three decades and pull within one of our own total and are now in danger of being denied just two wins away from that dream? Prior to this, we thought the slip was the best cosmic joke, but this? I mean, there really are no words to describe how ludicrous this latest script has been.
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They are not mutually exclusive, you are right. 99.99% of people want the league to finish if it can.
However Liverpool fans and former player have had this agenda that the league must be finished at all costs, that nothing at all should stop it, no matter when this is, that you compromise the integrity of the league, indeed football itself if you don’t.
They are utterly ignorant of the bigger picture, that football is a footnote of what’s happening in the world. 1/3 of the world’s population is on lockdown - but hey let’s start playing matches behind closed doors in a couple of weeks, because finishing the league of far more important. It’s not as if medics, security, police have anything better to do than stand in an empty stadium and watch meaningless games
They ignore what’s happening in other sports, other factions of football - and the attitude really is fcUK everything else, as long as we get the title, we are alright jack.
If we can’t finish the league, then just give us the title, we bloody deserve it - without regard to any other club in England.
I’ve said it before, Man Utd have far far more to gain from finishing the season than Liverpool (financially speaking) - it’s got nothing to do with rivalry, it’s realism and understanding what’s happening outside, with people losing their lives and their livelihoods
well fcUK Liverpool, a club that had great traditions really has been small minded and insular since King Kenny was appointed manager again.
liverpool is a club that’s completely tone deaf. I can only imagine the T-shirt’s they would wear if they did get to finish the league.“Champions of England - against all odds, and we even beat coronavirus - YAWN”.
I don’t know what will happen with the PL, but I’m almost certain Serie A will not be able to be completed. The crisis there is through the roof, and it’s only just reaching Southern Italy. They are a long way from public gatherings at least.
You want the new testing kits to be given to footballers so we can get the season started again (so your club can try and win the league) whilst there's doctors and nurses without PPE, who can't get tested themselves and the UK is just entering a lock down.
Come on mate. What planet are you on.
I actually don’t think many Utd fans are bothered about losing out on the CL. Admittedly I don’t know what Utd fans are saying in the Utd forum on here so maybe I’m completely wrong but in this forum it seems to barely get mentioned. It’s almost as if, and I know I’m going out on a limb here, Utd fans care more about us not winning the league.
With the problems on and off the pitch Utd have had recently I would have thought a return to elite level European football was the number 1 priority. It seems to be for Ed, Ole and the players But not so much for the fans.
I’m glad you said “putting aside the horrors of the virus” because it is possible to do that and talk about football and how/when it might restart. There is a well developed narrative that if you want the current season finished it means you don’t care about anyone and are basically evil incarnate. You can only care about the elderly, people with underlying health issues and humanity in general if you want the season voided. In which case, amongst others, West Ham fans must be angels.
I do think that after this is over we will all realise how important football is to us. It’s only been a couple of weeks and yet it feels like an eternity already. As someone said it’s the most important of the least important things. Stay safe.