not true. the mayor never really followed up on this promise.
https://sfstandard.com/politics/708...police-spending-to-hire-retain-more-officers/
Cop in America doing a bad job, again
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this should be an interesting thread with this being july 4th weekend
Did these not go through then? I know that once the crime wave happened she changed her mind but I wasn't sure if any of these actually went through with it
https://www.smartcitiesdive.com/new...everse-course-and-increase-police-bud/617285/
In 2020, cities across the U.S. slashed police budgets: New York cut $1 billion from its 2021 budget; Los Angeles cut $150 million; Washington, D.C. cut $15 million; San Francisco slashed $120 million from law enforcement, diverting the funds to efforts, including economic opportunities, housing, and health care, aimed at addressing inequities.
But in 2021, each of these cities reversed course and increased its police budget. Mayor Ted Wheeler of Portland, Oregon, promised to defund three city police units in June 2020, cutting $15 million; in November 2021, Wheeler announced a $5 million budget increase for the police department. In a press announcement, he pointed to rising crime rates, stating that “Parents are scared to let their children play outside.”
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I will give the cops a pass on anything if they are doing it to people shooting off fireworks
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they never went through with it. the only cities that did were portland and oakland. as far as nypd goes the budget wasn’t cut due to defund the police, it was just reallocated for a different purpose within nypd.
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Go Bulldaw…feck you, boy! 
Bodycam video being released at the top of the hour…
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Never seen something like this before…
Can someone describe it so I don't have to watch it?
I can't really see what happened from that camera.
It’s not gruesome due to the blur, but I can’t recall as intense firepower over as short a time frame. There were at least 6 cops & they expended over 90 rounds in a matter of seconds.
Apparently a couple of the cops expended their clips, reloaded, & resumed shooting.
Utterly crazy. I just don’t understand it I really don’t
Saw reports that the guy got pulled over and fired a couple of shots at the police officers when they got out of their cars....then the chase happened and he was killed
No 90 shot execution here…
Yea the media won’t tell you that though, neither will the twitter mob. Focus only on the fact he was black, and how many shots fired at him. That’s more sensationalist.
That’s how the majority of felony stops go, with compliance and without incident.
It was in the first article I clicked on when I was googling this earlier.
Also, I don't think you need to say more than "90 shots fired" for it to be sensational. It doesn't matter if he was guilty of something. Rodney King was guilty too, but that doesn't make his treatment any better.
Do you feel that the number of rounds shot was proportional to the threat or excessive?
if you've ever been shot at with the intent of being killed, you're not worried about shot count or how many rounds you need to fire off to kill the other person
I’ve been shot at, yes.
The shot came while the suspect was driving his car on the highway. From traffic cams it looked like a wildly speculative shot, hardly drawing a bead on the closest pursuing officer. The shot happened roughly six minutes before the (I guess) non excessive use of force shooting, the shooting that happened after two tasers were first deployed poorly.
But you seem to think it’s proportional.
I do, with the luxury of hindsight, feel the number of rounds was excessive. However that isn’t as important as whether the shooting itself was justified based on the facts and events known at the time. Was the decision to shoot proportional and appropriate? If yes, then the number of subsequent shots isn’t that relevant. If I’m pursuing someone and at some point he does something to make me shoot him, I’m solely focused on him, the threat. If there’s 10 other cops in my peripheral view also taking shots, then it’s not inconceivable that 60 rounds can be fired, if say we all take 5-6 shots each.
He was unarmed when he was confronted, so someone fecked up either way.
he wasn't unarmed...they found his gun in the car he was driving
So you're saying the car was armed? He wasn't in it.
but he was driving the car where shots came from so if he's running, how are police to know he's not armed? I mean he shot at them simple as that
Allegedly?
They don't know he's not armed, but they're not supposed to just shoot him because they know that at one point in the past he was armed. In America anyone can be armed, does that mean the police are supposed to just shoot any suspect at will? Obviously not.
Yes, the suspect fecked up by not complying, fleeing and evading the pursuing police, possessing a firearm, shooting said firearm at pursuing officers (attempted murder of Peace officer or assault with deadly weapon, your pick), then continuing to flee after ditching the car causing a foot pursuit, then reportedly he turned towards the officers appearing to use his gun on them. None of the cops could reasonably know he left it in the car. But it is completely reasonable to assume that he still has it on him and can shoot again.
With that said, I’m not saying that none of the cops fecked up. Each officer will have to justify and answer for themselves when exactly they shot and why, and how many times etc. Maybe one of them fired early when back was still turned and the others all fired due to sympathetic fire. Then that would be completely unjustified. Video is too shaky to determine.
Did you fail to read the media or are you making this up? Lets do a google search, "akron police shooting":
- NPR article, mentions it.
- New York Times mentions it.
- CBS News video mentions it.
- CNN article mentions it.
- USA Today article mentions it.
- Washington Post article mentions it.
- PBS article mentions it.
- Akron Beacon Journal mentions it.
- WSJ article mentions it.
- WKSU article mentions it.
I mean, we're talking about a number of cops continuously firing for 6 seconds here. Justified shooting or not, that's clearly excessive, and speaks of a complete lack of discipline. And that's ignoring the fecker with the bodycam who put at least two of his colleagues in immediate danger by opening fire while running with them perilously close.
There was an unloaded gun with a detached full clip (along with a wedding ring) found in the car. He apparently fired one shot at the trailing cop car while being pursued on the highway.
That’s actually a really good eye I didn’t catch at first re cross-fire with his partners. At the end of the day I can’t really judge because I’ve never been in a shooting. I can only imagine the stress level and adrenaline is through the roof as these incidents always are. That can possibly explain tunnel vision focus on the suspect and not on the other officers around. And can also explain the delayed response to stop shooting when suspect is down. You can hear one of them yell out “cease fire” kind of late. And it does look like they keep shooting when he’s on the ground.
He wasn't in his car when he was shot though....
true...but how would the cops know that during a chase after a guy shot at them from his car? try putting yourself in their shoes when chasing someone in the dark
Do you think he wanted suicide by cop?
He did recently lose his fiancée (not sure what caused her death). It’s a possibility, but he was running away from them when he was gunned down. Wearing a ski mask was a little odd tbh. Who knows?
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Have you graduated from defending executions of dogs to executions of people now?