Cop in America doing a bad job, again

Yeah it would have been a genius political move for a President to come out against police. He's not just the president of lefties ya know......
 
Well, considering what she said vs what happened it’s one of three scenarios:

a) She meant to shoot him with a gun and mistakenly shouted “I’m going to taser you” multiple times.
b) She meant to shoot him with a taser and shouted “I’m going to taser you” multiple times and then shot him with a gun instead of the taser.
c) she always had the intention of shooting him with the gun but covered her ass with the mistake angle by starting to shout “I’m going to taser you” multiple times before shooting him.

I’m leaning towards b since there’s nothing in there that suggests an escalation that warranted a fatal shooting with previous warning (ie, if she had seen him reach for something she wouldn’t have warned him multiple times plus she was shouting before she actually saw him). You reckon it’s c?

I'm with you on this. Option A makes no sense and Option C would indicate a level of pre planning and evil that I don't even want to consider.
 
Would you give it a rest ffs.
Why? Every time cops are to be held accountable he puts out some performative BS that results in nothing. He did the same last year as well when the bucs players started protesting. It's almost as if you've forgotten that blm protests began under his presidency.
 
America is not a real place, I don’t understand how these things can keep happening without any changes being made and people being held accountable.
 
Why? Every time cops are to be held accountable he puts out some performative BS that results in nothing. He did the same last year as well when the bucs players started protesting. It's almost as if you've forgotten that blm protests began under his presidency.
Well maybe he should apologize for not eradicating institutional racism. Or could he be racist himself? You seem to be the authority on accusations like that.
 
Someone throw this guy a smiley or two. Poor guy has been at it for almost a year now. Atleast then he would stop making such jokes in a thread about police brutality.
 
Having watched the video, it's clearly the mother of all feck ups. If it was intentional it would take an incredible level of on-the-spot psychopathy and deception. You can hear in her voice immediately after she fires how horrified she is.

Catastrophic policing all round. I don't even know how they let the guy get back in the car and able to drive away from a position of being handcuffed.

I don't see why a cop would deliberately shoot a suspect in that position. It's clearly a massive feck-up that should be punished heavily. No excuses for that level of incompetence and clearly not in the right line of work.
 
Having watched the video, it's clearly the mother of all feck ups. If it was intentional it would take an incredible level of on-the-spot psychopathy and deception. You can hear in her voice immediately after she fires how horrified she is.

Catastrophic policing all round. I don't even know how they let the guy get back in the car and able to drive away from a position of being handcuffed.
This may boil down to if someone with such tenure as the officer is getting proper, continual training in the use of firearms / deadly force. Should someone also be on the front line after 26 years?

I just don’t see this as intentional, the police officer perhaps simply shouldn’t be afforded this much responsibility without the proper continual training to keep her edge sharp. She should face at least what the BART cop faced regarding jail time; her length of time in the force shouldn’t be used in her favor to lessen such.
 
Are you lot actually telling me you believe it was a mistake?

My first reaction when I heard about it was "No, obviously not". But the video footage and everything else all suggests to it being an (absolutely ridiculous) mistake.
 
Now the worthless part of my family is chiming in on the most recent murder by cop, stating that the cop was correct in using lethal force because we don’t know what could have transpired after the shooting, that lethal force was justified because Wright could have used his car as a weapon.

So, we now have those who don’t want to blame cops because we don’t know what happened before a video clip & we also have those who don’t want to blame a cop due to what could potentially happen after a video clip.

It was so much better when I was estranged from those mental deficients.
 
In the US people are getting killed by cops in ways that are just absolutely ridicilous.

When accounted for population size, I'm really curious if European police kills at the same rate as American police. I doubt it.
 
So apparently we should just start shooting anyone in a car.
Hell, everyone should be shot every time as we don’t know what happened before a stop or what could happen after a stop.

Or we just need minority reports constantly.
 
not that it makes anything one iota better, but if this shit is going to happen the absolutely least we should be able to expect is what has happened:

1) Body Cam video released the next day
2) Obstructing, shit spouting City Manager fired by Mayor the next day
3) Officer Resigns within 2 days
4) Police Chief "resigns" within 2 days.

#5 needs to be the officer be charged and arrested in the next few days.

 
not that it makes anything one iota better, but if this shit is going to happen the absolutely least we should be able to expect is what has happened:

1) Body Cam video released the next day
2) Obstructing, shit spouting City Manager fired by Mayor the next day
3) Officer Resigns within 2 days
4) Police Chief "resigns" within 2 days.

#5 needs to be the officer be charged and arrested in the next few days.


No reason why body cam footage shouldn’t be released immediately. Hell, I would be for all police body cams being streamed live.

Hopefully #5 will be occurring any day now.
 
No reason why body cam footage shouldn’t be released immediately. Hell, I would be for all police body cams being streamed live.

Hopefully #5 will be occurring any day now.

Agree on point one obviously, less so on the live stream idea. Privacy issues for civilians as license plates/faces need to be blurred.
 
In the US people are getting killed by cops in ways that are just absolutely ridicilous.

When accounted for population size, I'm really curious if European police kills at the same rate as American police. I doubt it.

They're well ahead. Wonder what the stats are in Europe and the US when it comes to police executing unarmed/non-threatening black people.

Edit: I'd also be wary of the classification of numbers from countries that are in effect war zones / under occupation / enduring apartheid / US proxy war plaything.
 
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/

A breakdown of info gathered here too, if you’re into that sort of thing.
You have been very accommodating regarding questions from posters here and we appreciate your insights. I do have one more for you if you have time to answer. Would the benefits outweigh the cons if LEO's only carried non lethal on their person and lethal in a lock box in the patrol car?
I personally feel that a death sentence is totally unwarranted for minor infractions no matter how much the situation gets out of control. If the person being apprehended is an immediate danger to the public lethal force maybe warranted but if it's 3 cops surrounding an unarmed person resisting arrest why must they die?

Edit: Also, now that white supremacists terrorism is the biggest threat to public safety (the insurrection at the Capitol being a big fecking red flag)which should police officers be more in fear of their lives, a dozen white men armed to the teeth or a black youth running from the law? Should law enforcement shift their focus to a threat that could wipe out a few dozen innocent people at anytime or a bench warrant.
 
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If an officer resigns do they still get their pension?
If they get fired do they still get their pension?

I see both the police chief and the copper that killed that young man in MN have both resigned. She was a cop for 26 years.
Not sure about the chief but I assume he was there a while too.
 
If an officer resigns do they still get their pension?
If they get fired do they still get their pension?

I see both the police chief and the copper that killed that young man in MN have both resigned. She was a cop for 26 years.
Not sure about the chief but I assume he was there a while too.
Wouldn’t be surprised if resigning was a preemptive move to try to protect her pension.

Can’t see this LEO not receiving jail time.
 
You have been very accommodating regarding questions from posters here and we appreciate your insights. I do have one more for you if you have time to answer. Would the benefits outweigh the cons if LEO's only carried non lethal on their person and lethal in a lock box in the patrol car?
I personally feel that a death sentence is totally unwarranted for minor infractions no matter how much the situation gets out of control. If the person being apprehended is an immediate danger to the public lethal force maybe warranted but if it's 3 cops surrounding an unarmed person resisting arrest why must they die?

The reason a lot of things changed regarding policing and how things are approached for the CHP and other departments was due to the Newhall Incident here in California. I probably wouldn’t do it much justice by trying to explain it but there’s a lot of good resources on it if you’d like to look it up. Here’s one



Carrying only non-lethal on their person and having potentially armed people knowing that makes the job an uphill struggle and wouldn’t be successful in any way, I feel. If people didn’t have such easy access to firearms then I could see that approach being more successful, but there’s plenty of videos of traffic stops etc where people jump out with handguns and rifles and open fire where even with the officer having immediate access to a firearm on their belt, they’re already at a disadvantage. Plus ECD’s aren’t always as effective as people would have you believe.

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There was a discussion here about the counter-productive nature of violent protest. Looks like it gets stuff done!

 
We should have more studies like this, but thanks to The Dickey Amendment we didn't have any CDC research on gun violence for 2 decades. The date of this publication is not a coincidence.

Can't be having things like mental health studies and the fact rates of suicide are much higher in homes with a gun present impacting policy and influencing the public.
 
The reason a lot of things changed regarding policing and how things are approached for the CHP and other departments was due to the Newhall Incident here in California. I probably wouldn’t do it much justice by trying to explain it but there’s a lot of good resources on it if you’d like to look it up. Here’s one



Carrying only non-lethal on their person and having potentially armed people knowing that makes the job an uphill struggle and wouldn’t be successful in any way, I feel. If people didn’t have such easy access to firearms then I could see that approach being more successful, but there’s plenty of videos of traffic stops etc where people jump out with handguns and rifles and open fire where even with the officer having immediate access to a firearm on their belt, they’re already at a disadvantage. Plus ECD’s aren’t always as effective as people would have you believe.

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Thanks for the reply. I've seen enough of these videos of police put in such a situation for doing their jobs, its absolutely sickening to watch. I understand the use of lethal force in these situations but I've also watched countless videos of unarmed people filled with holes where the punishment doesn't match the crime. Is there a middle ground for LEO's when a firearm is suspected, not pointed at their faces, you just go to empty that clip if that's the case. But is there a stand down directive until an interaction is fully assessed?
Also, do you or your colleagues believe that a far stricter gun control should be enacted nationwide? If you can look up a driver's license and registration would it be invaluable to you and the public safety if a gun registration was as easily accessible?
 
Can't be having things like mental health studies and the fact rates of suicide are much higher in homes with a gun present impacting policy and influencing the public.
Yep. The ammosexual fetishizers love to spin their fantasmagorical yarns about ‘gun murder’ & ‘mass causality events,’ how a bad guy with a gun will he stopped with a good guy with a gun, yet they never discuss the staggering evidence of the entirety of gun violence or see the validity in keeping a gun out of someone’s hands who is looking to self harm. If ever specifically queried, they often go to the nonsensical argument of ‘well, that person could have as easily killed themselves with a knife or a noose or a car or jumped off of a building, they were going to kill themselves anyway.’
 
The reason a lot of things changed regarding policing and how things are approached for the CHP and other departments was due to the Newhall Incident here in California. I probably wouldn’t do it much justice by trying to explain it but there’s a lot of good resources on it if you’d like to look it up. Here’s one



Carrying only non-lethal on their person and having potentially armed people knowing that makes the job an uphill struggle and wouldn’t be successful in any way, I feel. If people didn’t have such easy access to firearms then I could see that approach being more successful, but there’s plenty of videos of traffic stops etc where people jump out with handguns and rifles and open fire where even with the officer having immediate access to a firearm on their belt, they’re already at a disadvantage. Plus ECD’s aren’t always as effective as people would have you believe.

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Did the cop announce ‘taser, taser, taser’ in order for the other police officer not to be handling the suspect when tased so as not to receive the shock?
 
Also, do you or your colleagues believe that a far stricter gun control should be enacted nationwide? If you can look up a driver's license and registration would it be invaluable to you and the public safety if a gun registration was as easily accessible?

From what I know most line officers think it's dangerous to rely on that data because a gun could be present anyway and thinking there's no gun registered at an address could cause them to drop their guard.
 
From what I know most line officers think it's dangerous to rely on that data because a gun could be present anyway and thinking there's no gun registered at an address could cause them to drop their guard.
Kinda weird considering close to 100% of their interactions with the public when on duty doesn't involve guns.
 
Kinda weird considering close to 100% of their interactions with the public when on duty doesn't involve guns.

True. It's a strange argument I suppose, they could still approach every situation as if a gun could be present. There could be some worry about what the approach would be if they knew a gun was there, though, all things considered.