The difference is that Ragnick has very little to lose from this situation while Conte does. He's semi-retired as a manager and more interested in modernizing clubs these days via backroom role. Conte, on the hand, is still very young for a manager and Spurs are simply not his level. It could be a massive blow to his reputation. From a manager whose specialty is winning titles at the rate of Fergie to trying to scramble for a top 4 place.
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Fair. Don’t disagree
It's a win-win situation for Conte.
If he wins something with Spurs, then he is the magician, the best of the best. Would Pep ever win anything with Spurs?
If he doesn't win anything... well, it is the Tottenham.
If he wins something with Spurs, then he is the magician, the best of the best. Would Pep ever win anything with Spurs?
If he doesn't win anything... well, it is the Tottenham.
Except Ragnick is nowhere near as reknown and accomplished a manager as Conte is. Plus he's a builder of clubs who pretty much specialises in that, as opposed to Conte who is someone who delivers trophies fairly quickly and has yet gone to a club that isn't even a top 4 challenger.
"The totten-ham" makes this doubly hilarious 
Conte will throw his toys out the pram before Christmas at this rate. Probably resign in January after being told he can’t sign a whole new team
Maybe Gary Neville was right after all.
I said the same thing when Mourinho went there too. Maybe levy is the ultimate master salesman
Was gonna say the same thing. No way Levy gonna bankroll that team especially in Jan so if things get worse, Conte won't hang around.
I think Spurs will spend, why would Conte join Spurs without any promise of signings.
Not really.
It is a big job, his reputation would be tainted if he fails to do anything significant.
Its certainly not a free hit scenario, you dont hire Conte to not win anything.
Levy is known for leading people up the garden path. Kane thought he had a "gentlemen's agreement" with Levy to leave. I bet he said something about spending to Conte but will go back on his word in the summer. Levy can use Conte to get top 4 and then get someone else in.
I think a lot of people are jumping the gun a little bit.
Last night was an utter embarrassment for Spurs.
The players did not want to be there and that’s unacceptable regardless of the competition your in, if your selected to play, you play your best. It’s not a competition Spurs will have wanted to be in, but they were, and Conte won’t be telling them to not bother, he’ll still expect the best output, that performance certainly won’t be tolerated in the EPL.
The players have shamed themselves, they’ve got an opportunity now with an Elite Manager like Conte now at the helm, and they play like that???? Utterly disgusting attitude and I hope he rips into all the top players (apparent top players) and tell them some truths
Last night was an utter embarrassment for Spurs.
The players did not want to be there and that’s unacceptable regardless of the competition your in, if your selected to play, you play your best. It’s not a competition Spurs will have wanted to be in, but they were, and Conte won’t be telling them to not bother, he’ll still expect the best output, that performance certainly won’t be tolerated in the EPL.
The players have shamed themselves, they’ve got an opportunity now with an Elite Manager like Conte now at the helm, and they play like that???? Utterly disgusting attitude and I hope he rips into all the top players (apparent top players) and tell them some truths
100%
Contes stock, his reputation was that he produces winners.
Pure and simple really isn’t it.
To not remotely improve Spurs would be mission failed which will be a first for him.
To not get Spurs into a position where they “look” like they may be able to actually win things would speak against his reputation.
It’s a good thing Daniel Levy doesn’t have a track record of breaking promises.
Conte left Juventus and Inter job because of transfers, Spurs wouldn't an issue at all for him.
It depends.
If they invest heavily in January and the Summer which I suspect they will (I don't think he'd have agreed otherwise) then yes he'll have to turn it around.
If they go bargain hunting - aiming for that under £50m net spend that Levy loves then I think people will look at the club rather than Conte. That squad is dead and needs to be overhauled. This is the 5th manager they're failing under.
Yep, he has won the league where he goes, there is no way anyone can tell me Spurs signed Conte just to get them into the CL, no chance.
You do not spend that money on him, change things at the club for a CL spot, he is there to win a trophy.
He has been shite this season.
Lets give Conte a few training sessions then we can see where we are.
Agreed, I mean he arrived yesterday after all. Shouldnt' be too harsh on him losing to Mura, they are *checks google* champions of Slovenia and despite being 5th currently 11 points adrift of 1st place they are still a very experienced team ranked 342st in Europe using UEFA rankings.
He arrived then had a international break, the defeat is on the players.
My stream was pretty shit so it was hard to follow the game but it looked pretty bad. Rodon squandered his opportunity as well which is a shame. If Spurs are bringing defenders in in January I’m hoping he’ll get a loan.
Very early days for Conte but you do wonder how good a fit he is with this Tottenham side. I have no doubt that if he’s backed he’d be a success, but I wonder how much patience he’ll have when it comes to Levy, and there’s not much to work with when it comes to a fairly large part of the squad.
Very early days for Conte but you do wonder how good a fit he is with this Tottenham side. I have no doubt that if he’s backed he’d be a success, but I wonder how much patience he’ll have when it comes to Levy, and there’s not much to work with when it comes to a fairly large part of the squad.
I started watching after the Spurs red card. Down 10 men Tottenham were on the front foot most of the match and missing goal opportunities left and right. They gave up the late goal because he had everyone forward in the closing seconds going for the win instead of the tie.
Not really sure what all people giving the harsh critiques of him were watching. They didn’t lose because of Conte. It will be funny if this horrid Spurs team finishes above Man Utd with all these people having a go at him after he has been there a week.
Not really sure what all people giving the harsh critiques of him were watching. They didn’t lose because of Conte. It will be funny if this horrid Spurs team finishes above Man Utd with all these people having a go at him after he has been there a week.
Levy is staring down the barrel now.
Finally luck upon a manager who gets the players playing above themselves and competing and decides not to back him and let the squad go stale so he can penny-pinch.
Gets the sucessor wrong and sacks him days before their biggest game of the season.
Embarrasses the club on a wild goose chase of a manager search before getting the choice desperately wrong again.
Panics, goes back to a top choice, convinces him to come in , and now risks an implosion if he doesn’t spend properly.
He basically lied to Kane to get what he wanted, so who is to say he hasn’t done the same here?
This could be an entertaining watch.
Finally luck upon a manager who gets the players playing above themselves and competing and decides not to back him and let the squad go stale so he can penny-pinch.
Gets the sucessor wrong and sacks him days before their biggest game of the season.
Embarrasses the club on a wild goose chase of a manager search before getting the choice desperately wrong again.
Panics, goes back to a top choice, convinces him to come in , and now risks an implosion if he doesn’t spend properly.
He basically lied to Kane to get what he wanted, so who is to say he hasn’t done the same here?
This could be an entertaining watch.
I'll repeat it one more time. It is a win-win situation for Conte. If he wins something with Spurs after so many years, he will be a hero. If he doesn't win anything, it will be "the Tottenham". His reputation will be intact anyway.
Proof? Just look at Pochettino! He had the best Spurs talent for decades, he bought a lot of useless players, and after 5 years he won nothing. Zero. Yet, he went on to PSG and now many fans want him at Man Utd. Conte will not wait for 5 years. By next year he will know if there is a remote hope of winning anything. If not... ciao. Why waste year after year?
People imagine that some managers "build something that lasts". That's bullshite. Did Pochettino build something "that lasts"? He was there for 5 years, what did he build? What happened right after he left?
Yeah it's not fair to judge Conte so early. Give it till Feb after the winter break. Same goes for Rangnick.
This might well be the most sarcastic post I’ve ever seen
Repeat it one more time, It might turn into a fact.
Proof? let me educate you, Poch was not a serial winner, he was a manager using Spurs as a stepping stone, just like he did with Southampton. Also, do you think someone waved a magic wand and the players became talented? No.... they were coached.
The reason Poch is highly rated is because he took a Spurs team to CHALLENGE in a PL title and a UCL FINAL. If he didn't do that and done exactly what Totenham were doing, his reputation will not be as high. Also, alot of fans, call him a bottler because he didnt win a trophy.
Its Conte putting his reputation on the line here to try and win something, if he fails it will take a hit. its not rocket science that.
If you win nothing and become manager of PSG and Man Utd, then obviously your career is fine.
Conte will continue to be considered one of the best managers in the world, and he will get top jobs, no matter what happens with Spurs. If Spurs fail to win anything with Conte, people will laugh at Spurs not at Conte!
He's on an 18 month contract, taking over when they were midtable and outside the top 4 for two seasons in a row. Does Levy think he's going to win them a league title or CL in the next 18 months?
His job is to get them in the top 4 and grab one of the attainable trophies, like all Spurs managers. Conte winning the league cup will put him right up there with Juande Ramos, Laudrup and Kenny Dalglish as recent winners, so I don't think his time will be remembered as a roaring success unless he performs well in the league. Half the managers who have won a domestic trophy end up with their own fans wanting them out the club shortly after, see Rodgers, Arteta etc.
Ultimately, Conte didn't want to wait around forever for one of the few elite teams to give him a job so here we are. I don't think he'll be there long, it's a marriage of convenience.
He was desperate to get back into football according to reports. He was highly interested in the United job but got the feelers from our club that they aren't looking to get him. None of the other top clubs are in for him.
He didn't want to spend an entire season out of the game, so he just took the next best option on offer the second time Tottenham came looking for him.
He will not be really really really unhappy to go out of this new shiny Mickey Mouse European Cup in December, we all knew that, right?? 
Because they’re paying him more than they offered him in the summer, and they kept Kane over the summer when it was looking like he was about to leave.
He will not be really really really unhappy to go out of this new shiny Mickey Mouse European Cup in December, we all knew that, right??
A good excuse to organize quadruple training sessions from Januarty 2nd to the end of the season. It could be a better thing for other clubs if they qualify.
Yeah, an enormous difference between the English and the Italians is the former see any game as the biggest game, the latter think of the big picture. Then, while many fans are already calling him a bust, Conte will see more time to train his donkyes (jumping with joy).
Idk, I don't think there's many big places left for Conte to go which is partly why he's ended up at Spurs in his first place. A coach of his quality should have the top clubs fighting over him but his personality means most won't touch him with a barge pole.
So it begs the question where can he realistically go after Spurs? Real and United have already turned him down for those reasons, Bayern wouldn't touch him likewise Paris, we'd never take him back and I can't see Liverpool or City wanting him either.
At a push I could maybe see Barca panicking if Xavi fails but beyond that I'm struggling.
He will be favorite to get back at Juve if Allegri fails two seasons and Elkann decides to sack/move Agnelli to Ferrari.
A Barcelona president will not make the big mistake of signing Conte. He knows that if he signs him he will already have everyone against him and will soon leave the presidency of the club.
What is he on about